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JO_75
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A 2nd and a 6th in 2023... wonder if were interested at all, feels like we would have offered more.
or the chiefs
but we do have to face the (now) loaded broncos roster
Davesta
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Imagine if chargers get Jordan Davis. Lol. That would be nasty.
not only that but suddenly kenneth murray doesnt have to worry about those pesky OL climbing to the 2nd level and can just go hunt and chase more freely
rmcjacket23
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I won't rule it out, but I'm not buying it. I think there may be no more desperate team in the league to get a high end QB than Carolina, and I think they'd give up a ton of capital to land Watson if he gets cleared enough where there's no long terms concerns. Would imagine Carolina would much rather deal him out-of-conference also.
Pittsburgh is pretty conservative when it comes to these types of decisions historically. I think they'll ultimately go the draft route with maybe a mid tier FA signing.
rmcjacket23
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I think that's the point for me. Its easy to say the Colts "won the trade", and they very well might have, but as it stands today, Washington is a better football team than Indianapolis in my eyes. Unless the Colts magically land Watson or Cousins, which I doubt, I'm not sure somebody like Jimmy G or any draft pick is going to be any better than Wentz on that team.
This trade feels like something that may take a bit of time for it to be a "win" for Indy.
i think it's a case of ballard realising that wentz isnt it and that they have to swing for something bigger with the understanding that if it doesnt work that they may have a better chance of finding a future guy next year
either way i think they knew that wentz wasnt working out for them and wasnt going to be the guy (even if he is better than the other available options)
because i think it's worth pointing out that i dont think washington thinks they've "solved" their qb situation by adding wentz either
yes, we do have to play the Broncos and we will be happy about it. Maybe this year we will be able to run against them and get our hundred yards prior to the last play.
rmcjacket23
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Agree. I think the Colts could have "afforded" Wentz if they wanted to, they just didn't want to. I just don't think we should be praising the Colts for a great trade until we see if that trade ends up benefiting them or not. The next QB they get (or even the next several) could easily be worse than Wentz.
But I think that “risk” of the next qb being worse is factored in by Ballard here... if the replacement qb sucks then they likely end up with a higher draft pick that gives them a shot at a higher quality player at qb that they haven’t had a chance to acquire really since they picked luck 1st overall
Worst case for the colts is that whoever they bring in to replace wentz is similar in play-level
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Well, I'm higher on Wentz than most others. I didn't think his season was all that bad. Wasn't all that good, and he looked terrible in the last must-win game, but I think they can do worse. I think he's basically as good as Rivers was, and he's significantly better than the guys they had between Luck and Rivers.
I also think that roster is too good to really suck bad enough that they'll get like a top 5 draft pick. Maybe top 10 in 2023, but I think even if you put like Ryan Fitzpatrick on that team, they'd still win 6 or 7 games. Especially in a division with Jacksonville and Houston.
so it's good then that they're acquiring future picks to help them make a move on a 2023 QB (where i can already tell you that the top 2 picks in that draft will both be QBs as long as they both declare)
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I mean I guess, but they really didn't get much in draft capital. It was essentially a salary dump. They swapped second rounders this year, and Indy got a 3rd rounder this year and a 3rd (which could potentially be a 2nd) in 2023.
They essentially got a current year 2 and a next year 2/3. If they're in a position where they need to move up into the top 3-5 to get a QB next year, it'll cost a lot more than that to get that done most likely. Had they gotten like a '23 first rounder from the Commanders, I'd agree that would be valuable from a trade up perspective.
JO_75
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Attention QB needy teams... Colin Kaepernick is still working. That is all.
JO_75
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Sure, keep pushing that rebuild off thinking you can still contend with Matt Ryan. The restructure gives them room but avoiding the rebuild is going to cost Atlanta in the long run.
JO_75
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Maxx Crosby got paid.... 4 year $95M deal with over $53M guaranteed. First extension for the new Raiders front office.