Tbh i dnt really care for winning the div. We won Sb and dam near 90% of playoff games from not winning div but still making playoffs..
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I remember watching this.. i think Browns shouldve hired kubiak like they said..
JoeyFlex5
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Conklin is a solid RT but they still have a worse OL than they had 2 years ago when Thomas was there. Karl Joseph is a nobody, and they’re season was off the rails long before Myles Garrett donkey konged mason Rudolph’s head. This team is not improved from the one that went into last season crowned the champs, yet they’re being crowned again despite proving that they shouldn’t be.
I mean can we REALLY put it all on kitchens? Literally everything that went wrong was unsurprising, we knew baker was a little shitcunt, Beckham and Landry were not gonna see the ball often enough, they had star pass rushers but nothing as far as LBs go, literally all the problems that were expected or discussed, panned out.
All of those problems still exist entirely, there’s no reason to think stefanski can mask those problems.
I dnt blame anyone but the team. Imo its always the team fault. Yea the coaching could be a reason but i dnt usually blame coaches..No one is crowning them.. vegas has them +155 to make offs so other than me, i dnt know who else belives it, which is fine..
Im not counting on a first year coach to actually make a complete turn around but all he has to do is win maybe 3 more games to make the playoffs..
LSURavenFan
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I'm not fearing the Browns.
Do they have a better coach than the Ravens? No.
Do they have a better QB? No.
Are they deeper? No.
The only two skilled positions where you could tell me they are better than the Ravens are WR and RB and even then there are asterisks.
WR- OBJ and Landry are highly skilled, but what they have in skill, OBJ in particular doubles that in ego. Locker room cancer, hurts the team more than it helps
RB- Chubb is one of the best backs in football no question, the Browns have the best RB. But the Ravens have a bette running game. Baker is about as mobile in the pocket as Philip Rivers... if the Raven run game stalls out they have Lamar
The 7 team playoff helps the Browns and maybe they get in, but don't exactly have an easy schedule either.
Do they have a better coach than the Ravens? No.
Do they have a better QB? No.
Are they deeper? No.
The only two skilled positions where you could tell me they are better than the Ravens are WR and RB and even then there are asterisks.
WR- OBJ and Landry are highly skilled, but what they have in skill, OBJ in particular doubles that in ego. Locker room cancer, hurts the team more than it helps
RB- Chubb is one of the best backs in football no question, the Browns have the best RB. But the Ravens have a bette running game. Baker is about as mobile in the pocket as Philip Rivers... if the Raven run game stalls out they have Lamar
The 7 team playoff helps the Browns and maybe they get in, but don't exactly have an easy schedule either.
that's shortsighted. It's still easier to win when you win the division and have atleast one home game. Just because we haven't advanced the last couple years doesn't change that.
Dom McRaven
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I don't think it is. Like Deebo, I don't care, per se, if we win the division. Do I want to win it? Damn straight I do, but if we don't then fine. As long as we get in the playoffs, that's the most important thing.
ThatsMyJoeTerback
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I think winning the division is a must. We haven't shown the ability to advance in the playoffs even with home field. I doubt we can suddenly advance in the playoffs on the road.
JoeyFlex5
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But this isn’t about making the playoffs or not lol, you specifically stated that they “have the jump on us already, if they sign clowney it’s a wrap” which definitely seems to me like you’re saying they are the better team than us right now
I absolutely agree with this statement and if that is what he means than that is fine, but I didn't read it that way. My bad if that's what he was trying to say.
Oh yea no doubt i think theyre a better team right now.. we have no ilbs, need atleast 2 iol, need wrs..
UPennChem
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Guys. I think you're missing what he's saying. Let me give it a try. @Deebo813 lmk if this is generally what you're thinking.
The browns on paper when you stack up the talent on their roster vs the talent on ours, you'd expect that Browns to be a much better team because they are flush with talent. Now organizationally, they have not been able to get their heads on straight, whereas our team has actually played above their actual talent due to good culture and good coaching. I think what deebo is saying though you really have to fear the Browns because as soon as they screw their heads on straight, their roster is way stronger than ours. And I don't think he'd be wrong about that. Question is, can the browns get their heads on straight.
I promise you, if the browns were to make some noise and lets say beat us twice this upcoming season... on these boards we will hear things such as “ they have a whole bunch of first rnd and top draft picks.. it was just a matter of time blah blah”.. im not saying the browns will be the best team in nfl but we have to understand that those guys won 6 games last year while the team chemistry and everything was all fked up.
We lost yanda and even before yanda we needed help in the inside..we seen how our wrs performed all year and in playoffs so thats a need, need ilbs bad as ever and maybe a pass rusher.. those first 3 things are desperate needs. Even if theyre just servicable guys, we need them. Yes those things needs will be dealt with before the season starts but im talking right now..
JoeyFlex5
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They have no ILBs, they have an average iOL but lack LT which is much harder to find and this is not a problem for us, and where we are lacking(wrs) they’re lacking elsewhere, for instance their safeties are ass.
This is a very simple concept, you’ve over analyzed your own team, and under analyzed a division rival, they have star power in some positions where we don’t, but you don’t realize they’re lacking in plenty of spots just as badly as we are.
cdp
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Couldn't agree more. Same thing with Bynes, if we had signed him, it would have been a good to great signing. Now it's just the bengals.
Ppl are underestimating how much Yanda meant to our offense, he did not only allow close to zero sacks and hits, he also called our protection and tapped our C to snap the ball. A great G makes life much easier for OT&Cs.
when they finally get their heads on straight they will be losing players ...
Yall still discussing the browns?? Lol If we should be discussing any rival it should the stealers. ben and company should be out for blood and the team is healthy. For some odd reason I keep reading things like they have no RB behind Conner..smh seems no one pays attention here. Oh and as for Damaris Randall not being good etc I think I read hes not better than Averett...wow. Again lol. Not that it matters anyway but a good player on a 1 year deal who could and probably will end up starting for us. As for MVS hes exactly the kinda WR we use. Deep ball once or twice a game and that's it. Heck yall act like we have receivers catching 10 balls a game. Dude has shown mad skills and top 10 game speed. They had like 5 WR over there and 1 guy who they just feed the ball to no matter how hurt he is. But what do I know.
JoeyFlex5
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What in the sweet flying fuck are you talking about? Randall is with the raiders, MVS is still with the packers, and Jaylen Samuels and Benny snell have shown nothing of significance so yes we are paying attention, along with James Conner being the most overrated rb in the league. You come in hot with mad disrespect and a shit attitude and then spit out one falsehood after another. Fuck off. You’re the shittiest poster on this forum hands down.