The Random Thought Thread

[Deebo813]

I think zeitler is gone unless he takes a pay cut and I reckon he won’t want to or need to take one so I’d assume he’s gone

Moses probably sticks around unless they think he won’t win the RT competition vs Faalele in year 2

You dnt think we keep him? 6.5 is cheap for the level he is currently playing at

 

[allblackraven]

Greg Roman just showed how stupid he is. The issue isn't controlling the clock it's literally getting SET at the line with virtually no time for Lamar to read defenses and audible.

That's just idiotic approach.

 

[Deebo813]

Broken record plays on

Those guys are spread out too far..lamar got tunnnel vision.. probably wouldnt even pay those outside guys any attention unless its a fly route. We attack the middle cause thats what he excels at.. when roman leaves, i wouldnt be surprised if says something thats maybe a diss towards lamar and our offense.

 

[BoredMarine13]

Those guys are spread out too far..lamar got tunnnel vision.. probably wouldnt even pay those outside guys any attention unless its a fly route. We attack the middle cause thats what he excels at.. when roman leaves, i wouldnt be surprised if says something thats maybe a diss towards lamar and our offense.

I don’t think the outside guys have to be overly involved and we know Lamar isn’t the most accurate outside the numbers. But I think his point was it makes the Eagles that much more difficult to defend , even more so the Ravens because more space for Lamar to run stresses the defense that much more

 

[gtalk12]

Those guys are spread out too far..lamar got tunnnel vision.. probably wouldnt even pay those outside guys any attention unless its a fly route. We attack the middle cause thats what he excels at.. when roman leaves, i wouldnt be surprised if says something thats maybe a diss towards lamar and our offense.

Ravens ran alot of plays where they had 4-5 receivers going out on routes in the redzone.

Not sure where all of that went.

 

[Dom McRaven]

FWIW.........

 

[rossihunter2]

Tua really makes Hill and Waddle go up for jump balls constantly. He's so often just throwing terrible balls. If he was stronger these passes would hit these guys in stride and be TDs. Instead they have to slow and fight for 50 50 balls. The craziest thing is those 2 little guys go up and get them. Like how?

tbf Waddle was notorious for this at Bama too
he's so explosive he can elevate with such suddenness that it's tough for corners to compete with him in the air - there's a reason he was WR1 for me in that class and fundamentally the fact that he didnt play like a little guy was crucial to that

 

[rossihunter2]

So his assessment isn't wrong, i.e. the longer we hold the ball the less the other team has it, which is precisely what this team is doing.

BUT, he's dead wrong in the fact that his desire to do so is forcing his offense to be less efficient because they're rushing plays. It's one thing to get the play in with 20 seconds on the clock and have Lamar snap it at 2-3 seconds. That's not an issue. The issue is when the offense is rushing to the line and making mistakes because they don't have enough time to operate the play as they want to.

He can achieve both. He can get the plays in quicker AND control the clock. That's what they should be doing.

yeah that answer is really disappointing
there's a clear difference between snapping late on the play clock (which we clearly aim to do partly because of this clock control i guess but more - to my view - because it gives lamar the most time to operate pre-snap and take advantage of the defensive looks) and having to rush and be in a mad dash to get the snap off (which actively takes away the advantage we have of letting lamar read pre-snap and check between plays)

 

[rossihunter2]

Those guys are spread out too far..lamar got tunnnel vision.. probably wouldnt even pay those outside guys any attention unless its a fly route. We attack the middle cause thats what he excels at.. when roman leaves, i wouldnt be surprised if says something thats maybe a diss towards lamar and our offense.

this is patently ridiculous
lamar full-field reads on almost every single play that isnt a designed quick hitter

and also just because you spread an offence out pre-snap doesnt mean you can only run routes outside of the numbers - so much of our success historically in the passing game has been on slants, posts, digs, over routes etc.

 

[JoeyFlex5]

tbf Waddle was notorious for this at Bama too
he's so explosive he can elevate with such suddenness that it's tough for corners to compete with him in the air - there's a reason he was WR1 for me in that class and fundamentally the fact that he didnt play like a little guy was crucial to that

I didn’t give waddle enough credit at the catch point, I had him pigeonholed as a YAC specialist

 

[JoeyFlex5]

So his assessment isn't wrong, i.e. the longer we hold the ball the less the other team has it, which is precisely what this team is doing.

BUT, he's dead wrong in the fact that his desire to do so is forcing his offense to be less efficient because they're rushing plays. It's one thing to get the play in with 20 seconds on the clock and have Lamar snap it at 2-3 seconds. That's not an issue. The issue is when the offense is rushing to the line and making mistakes because they don't have enough time to operate the play as they want to.

He can achieve both. He can get the plays in quicker AND control the clock. That's what they should be doing.

Yeah it’s a really tonedeaf answer from Roman. Run the clock all fucking day, get the play in 5 seconds earlier and give Lamar 5 extra seconds to read and call his checks and motions

 

[rossihunter2]

I didn’t give waddle enough credit at the catch point, I had him pigeonholed as a YAC specialist

was tough evaluating in the sense that he became the number 1 guy for Bama after Jeudy and Ruggs left but after 4 absolutely bonkers games of outrageous play, he got injured and then people second-guessed what they saw from him

when people talk about athleticism that changes how defences and defenders play - waddle's the guy and the level of athleticism they're talking about - and as elite as his straight line speed is... the thing that made him so very special was/is his short-area explosion which is borderline unheard of - the ability to explode in all 3 axes was undeniably rare

the first line of evaluation in my Jaylen Waddle profile was "plays with a jetpack strapped to his back" and it only really got better from there lol

 

[Dom McRaven]

With the Pats loss, I was looking at the remaining schedule for the teams still in the AFC playoff hunt. I think we need to reach 10 wins to get a playoff spot. 9-8 (and obviously worse) isn't gonna get it done. These next 3 games are must-wins as far as I'm concerned.

 

[BoredMarine13]

With the Pats loss, I was looking at the remaining schedule for the teams still in the AFC playoff hunt. I think we need to reach 10 wins to get a playoff spot. 9-8 (and obviously worse) isn't gonna get it done. These next 3 games are must-wins as far as I'm concerned.

I think we finish with exactly 10 wins. Wins vs Broncos, Falcons, and Steelers at home. Losses to Browns, Steelers, Bengals.

 

[Deebo813]

this is patently ridiculous
lamar full-field reads on almost every single play that isnt a designed quick hitter

and also just because you spread an offence out pre-snap doesnt mean you can only run routes outside of the numbers - so much of our success historically in the passing game has been on slants, posts, digs, over routes etc.

He can fully read the field but doesnt mean he doesnt have tunnel vision. There are waaaaay too many guys that get open, yet he doesnt see them… so whats the problem? Does he not know what he is reading? Does he not have faith in the wr to catch the ball? Does he not have faith in his arm? We can say every qb misses reads but not anywhere near as much as lamar. Yes we can still run routes inside the numbers but what i meant was that the ones that goes outside the numbers will likely be ignored..

 

[Deebo813]

With the Pats loss, I was looking at the remaining schedule for the teams still in the AFC playoff hunt. I think we need to reach 10 wins to get a playoff spot. 9-8 (and obviously worse) isn't gonna get it done. These next 3 games are must-wins as far as I'm concerned.

We def are gonna beat the broncos… those guys are bad.

 

[Militant X 1]

We def are gonna beat the broncos… those guys are bad.

Well, the Bronco's defense is ranked #3. The Raven's defense is ranked #10. So, it appears to be that the weakest link in the equation is the offenses of both teams. So, which offense will win the war of attrition to overcome those defenses?

 

[rossihunter2]

He can fully read the field but doesnt mean he doesnt have tunnel vision. There are waaaaay too many guys that get open, yet he doesnt see them… so whats the problem? Does he not know what he is reading? Does he not have faith in the wr to catch the ball? Does he not have faith in his arm? We can say every qb misses reads but not anywhere near as much as lamar. Yes we can still run routes inside the numbers but what i meant was that the ones that goes outside the numbers will likely be ignored..

who is he missing?

 

[allblackraven]

He can fully read the field but doesnt mean he doesnt have tunnel vision. There are waaaaay too many guys that get open, yet he doesnt see them… so whats the problem? Does he not know what he is reading? Does he not have faith in the wr to catch the ball? Does he not have faith in his arm? We can say every qb misses reads but not anywhere near as much as lamar. Yes we can still run routes inside the numbers but what i meant was that the ones that goes outside the numbers will likely be ignored..

You'll have to show me those "too many open guys", then I might trust you.

 

[Deebo813]

You'll have to show me those "too many open guys", then I might trust you.

So we gonna pretend that lamar dnt miss open wrs..