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BoredMarine13 said:
Right but if that were true and applied appropriately wouldn’t UGA be ahead of FSU in the rankings? Are we to believe the committee thinks the FSU product without Jordan Travis is bad enough to keep them out of the playoffs but good enough to be ahead of a team like Georgia?

Or did the conference talk then come into play? People can trash the ACC, but head to head SEC was 4-6 vs the ACC and has 1win vs a ranked non conference opponent. Bama also had the worst non conference loss of any of the CFP contenders. Im not ACC fan, and think Bama/UGA would wreck that conference, but still it’s all apart of the criteria that the CFP seems like they largely ignored for viewership/monies.

All this almost makes me miss the BCS.
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So I think Georgia should have been ahead of FSU. In fact I think Ohio St should have as well. But I don't particularly think the committee takes the 5+ rankings super seriously, considering they don't drive Bowl Game matchups. I think they just put FSU at 5 to show that they were considering putting them in over Alabama. The committee acknowledged that Georgia was never really in consideration. It was Alabama vs FSU. It probably looks worse to say "we were considering FSU" but then rank them like 7th behind better teams (even though that's probably true).

I think it had less to do with trashing the ACC, and more to do with the fact that FSU can barely score since Jordan Travis was out, and the committee simply didn't feel they'd be competitive in a playoff game. And I think that's a perfectly valid opinion. If Jordan Travis were healthy, and FSU is undefeated, there's no discussion about how good or bad the ACC is.

And by putting FSU 5, they then can help drive them to a matchup with Georgia in a Bowl Game and have them do the whole "show me" stance.
 
All_black_everything said:
Kenny Pickett having surgery due to high ankle sprain. They hope to have him back week 18 against us.

With our tough upcoming schedule, this gives us a little more wiggle room in the division race.
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Yeah I saw. Honestly its irrelevant for me. I think Pickett, Trubisky and even Rudolph are largely interchangeable. Don't think any of them are worth more wins than the other. The Steelers method of victory under all three QBs is running the ball well and playing super high level defense. Only possible downside to somebody like Trubisky is he's more prone to turnovers.

I said this last week when we discussed Pittsburgh's perceived favorable schedule. They're not the kind of team that should be viewed as having "easy" wins over anybody. We saw that Sunday.

I think they'll beat NE, and I think they'll beat Cincy. Colts are better than them. Seahawks are better than them. And they'll be 9-7 heading into week 18. And then its just a question of whether they'll see our starters or backups in week 18. I'd be surprised if we didn't have the division locked up by then, and its just a question of seeding at that point.

I think there's plenty of scenarios where Pittsburgh and Cleveland play their way out of the playoffs. Colts and Texans have four very winnable games on their schedule before week 18 H2H.

Texans/Browns on Christmas Eve could be effectively a playoff eliminator game, and that Colts/Steelers game on the 16th is now super critical for both teams.
 
BoredMarine13 said:
Right but if that were true and applied appropriately wouldn’t UGA be ahead of FSU in the rankings? Are we to believe the committee thinks the FSU product without Jordan Travis is bad enough to keep them out of the playoffs but good enough to be ahead of a team like Georgia?

Or did the conference talk then come into play? People can trash the ACC, but head to head SEC was 4-6 vs the ACC and has 1win vs a ranked non conference opponent. Bama also had the worst non conference loss of any of the CFP contenders. Im not ACC fan, and think Bama/UGA would wreck that conference, but still it’s all apart of the criteria that the CFP seems like they largely ignored for viewership/monies.

All this almost makes me miss the BCS.
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BCS was this every year
 
rmcjacket23 said:
Yeah I saw. Honestly its irrelevant for me. I think Pickett, Trubisky and even Rudolph are largely interchangeable. Don't think any of them are worth more wins than the other. The Steelers method of victory under all three QBs is running the ball well and playing super high level defense. Only possible downside to somebody like Trubisky is he's more prone to turnovers.

I said this last week when we discussed Pittsburgh's perceived favorable schedule. They're not the kind of team that should be viewed as having "easy" wins over anybody. We saw that Sunday.

I think they'll beat NE, and I think they'll beat Cincy. Colts are better than them. Seahawks are better than them. And they'll be 9-7 heading into week 18. And then its just a question of whether they'll see our starters or backups in week 18. I'd be surprised if we didn't have the division locked up by then, and its just a question of seeding at that point.

I think there's plenty of scenarios where Pittsburgh and Cleveland play their way out of the playoffs. Colts and Texans have four very winnable games on their schedule before week 18 H2H.

Texans/Browns on Christmas Eve could be effectively a playoff eliminator game, and that Colts/Steelers game on the 16th is now super critical for both teams.
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Agree, I called the Cardinal upset but only put $25 on it lol. I definitely think Colts and Seahawks should be favorites, and if the Bengal backup improves just a tad they could steal a win too but unlikely since Taylor is a terrible coach and Chase has quit on the team
 
rmcjacket23 said:
Yeah I saw. Honestly its irrelevant for me. I think Pickett, Trubisky and even Rudolph are largely interchangeable. Don't think any of them are worth more wins than the other. The Steelers method of victory under all three QBs is running the ball well and playing super high level defense. Only possible downside to somebody like Trubisky is he's more prone to turnovers.

I said this last week when we discussed Pittsburgh's perceived favorable schedule. They're not the kind of team that should be viewed as having "easy" wins over anybody. We saw that Sunday.

I think they'll beat NE, and I think they'll beat Cincy. Colts are better than them. Seahawks are better than them. And they'll be 9-7 heading into week 18. And then its just a question of whether they'll see our starters or backups in week 18. I'd be surprised if we didn't have the division locked up by then, and its just a question of seeding at that point.

I think there's plenty of scenarios where Pittsburgh and Cleveland play their way out of the playoffs. Colts and Texans have four very winnable games on their schedule before week 18 H2H.

Texans/Browns on Christmas Eve could be effectively a playoff eliminator game, and that Colts/Steelers game on the 16th is now super critical for both teams.
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Agree that those QBs seem to be mostly interchangeable but we shouldn’t downplay the point you made about Trubisky being more prone to turnovers. That has been a major key in their ability to keep games close and pull out wins. They are near the top in the league in turnover differential.
 
rossihunter2 said:
Because they’re the only major sport that doesn’t pay them full time still…
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I mean I partially agree, but I have a hard time buying that lack of full-time hours is the driver in the criticism of officiating. I'm not sure more training is the issue.
I think half of the officiating issues can be fixed by simple expedited replay. And that's 100% on the Owners.
 
OURavensFan said:
BCS was this every year
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Yes.
I think the public takes a lot of fake outrage when it comes to this stuff. Like college football has a lot of problems, but there's really never been a year where I felt that the best team wasn't the Champion. Half of the 1 vs 4 games during the CFB playoff era have been total blowouts.

Expanding to 12 teams isn't going to change outcomes. It's simply going to make more $, create a very small amount of parity amount the first round of games, and then water will finds its level.

It's simply just going to amplify that the gaps between the top 4-5 and the 10-15 range is much wider than college football wants to make it seem like it is.
 
OURavensFan said:
BCS was this every year
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Key difference was the computers were based on formulas that couldn’t be cheated(although were altered a lot throughout the years). The CFP committee is biased, influenced by financials, and has clear conflicts of interest.

The biggest issue with the BCS system is we were limited to two teams each year. An expanded BCS would be the best of both worlds.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
I mean I partially agree, but I have a hard time buying that lack of full-time hours is the driver in the criticism of officiating. I'm not sure more training is the issue.
I think half of the officiating issues can be fixed by simple expedited replay. And that's 100% on the Owners.
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If nothing else it shows that the nfl isn’t taking officiating seriously if they’re not making sure the refs are fully professional and not just semi-pro
 
rmcjacket23 said:
I mean I partially agree, but I have a hard time buying that lack of full-time hours is the driver in the criticism of officiating. I'm not sure more training is the issue.
I think half of the officiating issues can be fixed by simple expedited replay. And that's 100% on the Owners.
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It really makes no sense sometimes. Mistakes are going to happen at the speed the game goes, but then when there's a challenge, they have to make a determination on a tiny little box. Meanwhile, you have NY there watching every single play and expediting some things but refusing to let them have more impact because it takes out the human element of the game despite how fucked up it is right now.
 
rossihunter2 said:
If nothing else it shows that the nfl isn’t taking officiating seriously if they’re not making sure the refs are fully professional and not just semi-pro
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Agree. But that's also true for many things. They have the $ to use real grass on 32 fields, but don't, because they don't have to.
NFL only makes significant changes when $ is involved. If they see a substantial decline in viewership, attendance, etc. due to poor officiating, they'll make changes. Same with playing surfaces. If they don't see that, they have little to no incentive to do anything about it.

Nearly 100% of all substantial changes to the product are driven by either a desire to make more $, or a fear of losing $. And I'm not sure the outrage over officiating is sufficient enough to drive either yet. Maybe that will change, but the fact that people are talking about it indicates that people are still watching the product.
 
rossihunter2 said:
Because they’re the only major sport that doesn’t pay them full time still…
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Started taking a look out of curiosity and the NFL refs are some of the lowest paid out of the major sports. Surprised considering NFL is king
 
Simba said:
Multiple random thoughts this morning...

1. The NFL still has a big officiating problem. Blown calls are bound the happen but the number and frequency this year is alarming. It's consistent week after week.

2. For the Harbaugh vs. Tomlin debate, I have a hard time giving Tomlin any flowers right now while he lets Diontae Johnson continue to play after his assholery. 0 effort last weekend and then celebrates a TD while losing yesterday.

3. It's wild that we're this far into the season and only 5 rookies - Zay Flowers, Trenton Simpson, Tavius Robinson, Keaton Mitchell, and Owen Wright - have taken snaps for the Ravens. Really relying on some vets this year.
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we did only have 5 draft picks this year. Six if you count Vorhees.
 
Do teams play two deep safeties at all vs dolphins? I watched the game vs commanders it looked like they didnt even care about covering hill.. im assuming they were werent play deep because then they would just get killed with screens
 
Re: referees. The NFL is so extremely silly in not trying to offload some of the easy things from on-fiels refs. Let's start by letting sensors and image processing call delay of game and false start. Probably really easy to do 12 men on the field and illegal formation as well. Add on offside/encroachment and now the refs can focus on less admin crap and have more eyes on all the judgement calls. It is not techically difficult and with their constant AWS commercials, it should be easy to get Amazon to develop it for free publicity.
/rant off
 
Deebo813 said:
Do teams play two deep safeties at all vs dolphins? I watched the game vs commanders it looked like they didnt even care about covering hill.. im assuming they were werent play deep because then they would just get killed with screens
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It's the one thing I look forward to, exposing this Miami offense for the frauds they are. Lions had a great offense... then we shut them down. Seahawks put up 35 on Dallas' "great" defense while we held them to three points.

I think we played two deep safeties on them last year but Marlon's injury opened up the door for the comeback. I fully expect Macdonald to do that this year.
 
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