Dom McRaven
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Too early to tell at this point.Do you see Training Camp being virtual this year and will there even be a preseason?
Too early to tell at this point.Do you see Training Camp being virtual this year and will there even be a preseason?
I watched a guy come back from a big deficit in all 3 playoff games.You must have watched a different SB than I did. lol
Was a great run by both qbs. I still think its debatable though. He came back from 10+ deficits in all three games.. can replace williams with ingram and kc would have still won.. cant replace mahommes with anyone. same goes for flacco that seasonIt is true. If it’s not for Williams, the Chiefs lose that game. Also, Flacco’s magical post season run to the Super Bowl trumps Mahomes’ run any day of the week, and I don’t like Flacco.
Was a great run for sure but i think patricks was great also.Joe's SB run was the most elite in the history of the NFL.
Anyone who says otherwise is wrong and a hater.
Everyone here likes queen over murry. Even before we drafted him that was the case lol.Just one question...will Patrick Queen be better then Kenneth Murray?
Everyone here likes queen over murry. Even before we drafted him that was the case lol.
Do you see Training Camp being virtual this year and will there even be a preseason?
Just one question...will Patrick Queen be better then Kenneth Murray?
Page 46 is when Murray was drafted. I feel like the collective reaction speaks for itself lol.Everyone here likes queen over murry. Even before we drafted him that was the case lol.
oh shit. Did you really do that?i still remember the emotion of turning off the game against the broncos in anguish only to check the score 5 minutes later and see that we were somehow tied again
oh god noHe should watch the Bengals at The Bank game, week 17 from 2017 season
I watched a guy for most of the game(SB) bouncing passes off the ground to wide open receivers, throwing into double coverage, throwing bad picks, etc.. Granted he pulled it together and looked great for a couple of drives at the end of the game, but if it weren’t for Williams stellar play(should have been MVP) and the stout 4th quarter KC defense they definitely lose.I watched a guy come back from a big deficit in all 3 playoff games.
oh shit. Did you really do that?
Just one question...will Patrick Queen be better then Kenneth Murray?
Random question, what's your avi about?i legit turned the game off - i was sure the game was over
Random question, what's your avi about?
I mean OK, but why were they in a position to need to come back?Im sorry but that isnt true. Damien williams helped but mahommes was the main factor. I know we dnt wanna give it to him but mahommes playoff run is possibly better than flaccos.. well i believe its debatable
Exactly. I had this same talk with deebo on super bowl night when I said Damien Williams was robbed of mvp. Mahomes didn’t play a spectacular game, he was a game manager who had 1 spectacular rushing play and one downfield spot throw where tyreek hill fielded it like a punt, otherwise he was pretty pedestrian. That comeback should’ve never even been on the table because the chiefs offense needs to be scoring more frequently, and mahomes frankly was the prime suspect in that SB, he was sailing screen passes and turfing balls left and right. Damien Williams ripped off one strong run after another, a lot of it under his own talents and efforts with great open field missed tackles being forced, especially on the sideline and in the redzone.I mean OK, but why were they in a position to need to come back?
Part of the reason your team needs to come back every game is because your offense isn't doing what it needs to do.
Part of the reason you fall behind 24-0 at home to the Texans (a bad defense) is that you punt on your first three possessions. I personally don't view a win over the Titans as a "comeback", because being down 10 points mid-way through the 2nd quarter isn't exactly a daunting deficit to overcome, regardless of opponent.
Part of the reason you're down 10 points in the 4th quarter in a SB is because you scored 3 points in your previous 4 possessions, including two interceptions, and you score 10 points in the first 3.5 quarters of the game. Granted, against a stud defense.
That's kind of the whole point. The only argument for Mahomes is "well he came back". Yes he did. But he was also a big reason why they had to come back, especially in the SB. He was playing from behind late because his performance, among others, wasn't good enough to keep them from playing from behind. So he shares both credit and blame for that situation.
If it were a case where Mahomes is out there hanging 25-30 points on the 49ers, and the Chiefs defense can't stop anybody, then I'd put very little blame on him. But that's not what happened against SF at all. I thought KC's defense may have been the best unit on the field that entire day.
I mean OK, but why were they in a position to need to come back?
Part of the reason your team needs to come back every game is because your offense isn't doing what it needs to do.
Part of the reason you fall behind 24-0 at home to the Texans (a bad defense) is that you punt on your first three possessions. I personally don't view a win over the Titans as a "comeback", because being down 10 points mid-way through the 2nd quarter isn't exactly a daunting deficit to overcome, regardless of opponent.
Part of the reason you're down 10 points in the 4th quarter in a SB is because you scored 3 points in your previous 4 possessions, including two interceptions, and you score 10 points in the first 3.5 quarters of the game. Granted, against a stud defense.
That's kind of the whole point. The only argument for Mahomes is "well he came back". Yes he did. But he was also a big reason why they had to come back, especially in the SB. He was playing from behind late because his performance, among others, wasn't good enough to keep them from playing from behind. So he shares both credit and blame for that situation.
If it were a case where Mahomes is out there hanging 25-30 points on the 49ers, and the Chiefs defense can't stop anybody, then I'd put very little blame on him. But that's not what happened against SF at all. I thought KC's defense may have been the best unit on the field that entire day.
Yes i agree.Murray is a prototypical big, fast, physical ILB who plays with blinders on. There are so many of these guys who are physically impressive on tape but their mental processing and decision making flaws become exacerbated as pros.
O ok. Yall got it. Impossible to defeat fandomness( i dnt even think thats a word)I mean OK, but why were they in a position to need to come back?
Part of the reason your team needs to come back every game is because your offense isn't doing what it needs to do.
Part of the reason you fall behind 24-0 at home to the Texans (a bad defense) is that you punt on your first three possessions. I personally don't view a win over the Titans as a "comeback", because being down 10 points mid-way through the 2nd quarter isn't exactly a daunting deficit to overcome, regardless of opponent.
Part of the reason you're down 10 points in the 4th quarter in a SB is because you scored 3 points in your previous 4 possessions, including two interceptions, and you score 10 points in the first 3.5 quarters of the game. Granted, against a stud defense.
That's kind of the whole point. The only argument for Mahomes is "well he came back". Yes he did. But he was also a big reason why they had to come back, especially in the SB. He was playing from behind late because his performance, among others, wasn't good enough to keep them from playing from behind. So he shares both credit and blame for that situation.
If it were a case where Mahomes is out there hanging 25-30 points on the 49ers, and the Chiefs defense can't stop anybody, then I'd put very little blame on him. But that's not what happened against SF at all. I thought KC's defense may have been the best unit on the field that entire day.
Imo chris jones shouldve won mvp. I look at it like this, williams is replaceable and patrick is not..not taking away anything from what he did but people acting like he made something out of nothing. Mark ingram wouldve gotten the same numbers if played with kc in that sb.Exactly. I had this same talk with deebo on super bowl night when I said Damien Williams was robbed of mvp. Mahomes didn’t play a spectacular game, he was a game manager who had 1 spectacular rushing play and one downfield spot throw where tyreek hill fielded it like a punt, otherwise he was pretty pedestrian. That comeback should’ve never even been on the table because the chiefs offense needs to be scoring more frequently, and mahomes frankly was the prime suspect in that SB, he was sailing screen passes and turfing balls left and right. Damien Williams ripped off one strong run after another, a lot of it under his own talents and efforts with great open field missed tackles being forced, especially on the sideline and in the redzone.
mahomes was SPECTACULAR in the entire playoff run, but he fizzled out big time in the super bowl. Joe Flacco was even more spectacular in the same duration and didn’t fizzle out until the second half and that was after the power outage and the defense and special teams also fizzling out completely, along with a very untimely ray rice fumble. Flacco was consistently lighting teams up, mahomes had a strong quarter after looking bad in every game.
chiefs are weird really because they frequently do this, not just in the playoff run. They rip off one jaw dropping quarter of football and are pretty average the rest of the game. If they don’t improve in that regard it’s gonna nite them in the Ass this year when they face us, because we’re gonna ready for 4 quarters of methodical football this time and keep them off the field