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Ellicottraven said:
Flacco is a good comp for Kirk. I do think he displays a little more passion out on the field, but I think he is right there with Flacco in terms of overall play.
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I massively disagree. Kirk absolutely folds in prime time games/playoffs. One of the calling cards for Flacco was that he did great in those games
 
Sizzle said:
I massively disagree. Kirk absolutely folds in prime time games/playoffs. One of the calling cards for Flacco was that he did great in those games
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I can't imagine Flacco the KING of throwing the ball to a receiver and asking them to make a play on it with a receiver like Jefferson
 
Sizzle said:
I massively disagree. Kirk absolutely folds in prime time games/playoffs. One of the calling cards for Flacco was that he did great in those games
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We are talking talent level @Sizzle. The truth really is Flacco was assisted heavily by a great Ravens D, as is Kirk now by his D. See, the thing is I don't buy into this notion that a player and a team that is good in the regular season suddenly go bad in the postseason. There is an added level of competition and more time to game plan for all teams. Also, remember that teams have an entire regular season of tape to prepare...
 
Ellicottraven said:
We are talking talent level @Sizzle. The truth really is Flacco was assisted heavily by a great Ravens D, as is Kirk now by his D. See, the thing is I don't buy into this notion that a player and a team that is good in the regular season suddenly go bad in the postseason. There is an added level of competition and more time to game plan for all teams. Also, remember that teams have an entire regular season of tape to prepare...
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I believe there are players who fold when all eyes are on them and the pressure is infinitely on to perform. That's a common sense idea. Manning for example did piss poor in the playoffs and really even in the two Super Bowls he did win. He broke all kinds of regular season records though.
 
Ellicottraven said:
We are talking talent level @Sizzle. The truth really is Flacco was assisted heavily by a great Ravens D, as is Kirk now by his D. See, the thing is I don't buy into this notion that a player and a team that is good in the regular season suddenly go bad in the postseason. There is an added level of competition and more time to game plan for all teams. Also, remember that teams have an entire regular season of tape to prepare...
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Couple things for me:
1. If we're talking this season, there's nothing special about the Vikings D. They're extremely pedestrian in pretty much all phases. Vikings ability to win games this season has predominantly been through the output of their offense. Which would be expected, because from a personnel standpoint, they've got a lot of talent on offense.
2. Cousins track record for playing poorly in "primetime" games is well documented. I personally don't put a ton of stock into the whole "primetime games" thing, mostly because they don't count any different than a normal 1pm game, and both the public and the media tend to overreact on both sides to national games. There's no evidence they're more indicative of how a team will perform in the long run.
3. I think Cousins gets unfairly shit on by the public way too much, BUT, that being said, he's likely to be the 2nd best QB on the field in pretty much any playoff game he'll play in, and postseason play is largely predicated on the output of the QB.
 
How can anybody not believe that some athletes do better in higher pressure situations whereas others fail? I mean to me it’s common sense. Same thing happens at a regular workplace. Do you do better with a soon approaching deadline where stakes are higher, or do you panic? Some of you lack basic self awareness and/or knowledge of simple psychology
 
rmcjacket23 said:
Couple things for me:
1. If we're talking this season, there's nothing special about the Vikings D. They're extremely pedestrian in pretty much all phases. Vikings ability to win games this season has predominantly been through the output of their offense. Which would be expected, because from a personnel standpoint, they've got a lot of talent on offense.
2. Cousins track record for playing poorly in "primetime" games is well documented. I personally don't put a ton of stock into the whole "primetime games" thing, mostly because they don't count any different than a normal 1pm game, and both the public and the media tend to overreact on both sides to national games. There's no evidence they're more indicative of how a team will perform in the long run.
3. I think Cousins gets unfairly shit on by the public way too much, BUT, that being said, he's likely to be the 2nd best QB on the field in pretty much any playoff game he'll play in, and postseason play is largely predicated on the output of the QB.
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You think primetime games and 1pm games are the same? Dam
 
Deebo813 said:
You think primetime games and 1pm games are the same? Dam
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I mean they essentially are. What's the difference between them? More people watching one? Like OK.
Do you get two losses if you lose in primetime? Do you get two wins? Does your season end if you don't play well and lose in a primetime game?

Playoff games and regular season games are different.. for obvious reasons. Games where there's easily identifiable critical aspects to it for the standings are more important. Obviously a week 17 game where the winner goes to the playoffs and the loser doesn't is more important.

Look at it this way... lets say the NFL flexed the Ravens/Panthers game to Sunday night. Why is that game now more important in any way, other than simply more people will watch it because its in a time slot where more people watch TV naturally?
 
Deebo813 said:
100%.. just like anything. You may be a good bowler or madden player with around a few friends but when more people watching and its money at stake, you fold.
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Sizzle said:
How can anybody not believe that some athletes do better in higher pressure situations whereas others fail? I mean to me it’s common sense. Same thing happens at a regular workplace. Do you do better with a soon approaching deadline where stakes are higher, or do you panic? Some of you lack basic self awareness and/or knowledge of simple psychology
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So is the 1pm game where you're playing a meaningless game against a few friends, but the primetime game is the "money game" with a lot at stake?
Its not debatable that some players perform differently under pressure. I'm just not sure fans are qualified to identify what a true "pressure situation" is for an NFL player.
I mean is Eagles/Texans on TNF more pressure for Jalen Hurts than Eagles/Cowboys at 1pm on a Sunday? The former is probably going to have more people watching it, so does that make it more pressurized?
 
Deebo813 said:
You think primetime games and 1pm games are the same? Dam
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I mean they are.

It's a game at the end of the day. Losing a primetime game vs losing on a Sunday afternoon changes what exactly? More people watching?
 
gtalk12 said:
I mean they are.

It's a game at the end of the day. Losing a primetime game vs losing on a Sunday afternoon changes what exactly? More people watching?
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So you’re trying to say that a playoff game carries the same amount of pressure that a regular season does? If the answer is no, then yes, those games are different than regular games
 
Sizzle said:
So you’re trying to say that a playoff game carries the same amount of pressure that a regular season does? If the answer is no, then yes, those games are different than regular games
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in context the meaning of primetime game was not a playoff game. If by primetime you mean playoff then absolutely
 
Sizzle said:
So you’re trying to say that a playoff game carries the same amount of pressure that a regular season does? If the answer is no, then yes, those games are different than regular games
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Apples to oranges.

Playoff games are amplified. Nobody is disputing that. Pretty much any game where if you lose, you don't play again for 9 months, would be more pressure.

Fans pretend like primetime, regular season games are more pressure than 1pm, regular season games. Viewership shouldn't really drive pressure. Impact on one's season drives pressure.

Hence why the public shits on Cousins because he struggles in PRIMETIME games, i.e. Monday night, Sunday night games, more than he does in 1pm Sunday games. In my opinion, those games aren't guaranteed to be more pressure. They could even be less pressure.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
Apples to oranges.

Playoff games are amplified. Nobody is disputing that. Pretty much any game where if you lose, you don't play again for 9 months, would be more pressure.

Fans pretend like primetime, regular season games are more pressure than 1pm, regular season games. Viewership shouldn't really drive pressure. Impact on one's season drives pressure.
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Agreed
 
rmcjacket23 said:
Apples to oranges.

Playoff games are amplified. Nobody is disputing that. Pretty much any game where if you lose, you don't play again for 9 months, would be more pressure.

Fans pretend like primetime, regular season games are more pressure than 1pm, regular season games. Viewership shouldn't really drive pressure. Impact on one's season drives pressure.

Hence why the public shits on Cousins because he struggles in PRIMETIME games, i.e. Monday night, Sunday night games, more than he does in 1pm Sunday games. In my opinion, those games aren't guaranteed to be more pressure. They could even be less pressure.
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Primetime games are def guaranteed to be more pressure on a player .. idk how one can think that more eyes being on you doesnt cause for more pressure. I mean thats not just with football, its with everything. Probably doesnt apply to guys like brady and me lmao but thats a different story
 
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