Joe Flacco

[RayRayRaven]

Obviously the decision to keep Pitta was a questionable one. I know he's an important player but coming off of a serious hip injury, the signing itself was a gamble. .

nothin more clearly illustrates ozze's fall and loss of insight than the Boldin/Pitta tragedy.

he didn't recognize Boldin's role, value and contribution to the team and quibbled over 2 measly million, threw away our lynchpin and compounded the horror by squandering the savings on failures.

after that horror of 2013 ozze finally realized flacco has favorite receivers, ( a day late and a dollar short), and deduced Pitta was one of them. ozze is all about over reaction and attempted correction and what happened next was part of his modus operandi at this stage of his career.

its hard to call for an icon's replacement, but knowledgeable fans have to know what is killing us.

 

[K-Dog]

Demanding and getting are two different things.

 

[OURavensFan]

I did watch the game @OURavensFan. And, to be honest, I really enjoyed watching our offense in action. They played a whole lot better on the road out west than I expected. And, I absolutely LOVED the offense opening up with that 52 yard pass play from Flacco to Wallace on their very 1st down of their 1st possession. UNEXPECTED and UNPREDICTABLE! The running game looked nice as well. And yes! To me? Flacco looked and played very well. Better than the past few games.

NOW....

I just want Flacco and the offense to play consistently from game to game! Sure, the opponents may change and the location may change and the defensive scheme may change BUT the one thing that should remain the same is that our offense doesn't give a damn about those things because they are more than confident in themselves that they can overcome ALL of that stuff to get the "W". Well, we shall see if they can because here comes "Da Bears".

GO RAVENS!

About that last part....

I'm so sick of receivers dropping passes, honestly we likely win if some of those are caught. This team looks pathetic at every position on offense, trying to find the constant the thing that makes the most sense is the FO strategy and more favorable replenishment strategies tailored towards the defensive side of the ball.

The still shots say it all, Chris Moore is more guilty of the punt catch technique than Jacoby Jones was. Year after year there's always drops that kill us. Every single year, I hate drops more than anything

 

[OURavensFan]

No, it shouldn't.

Fans have every right to demand consistent, average to above average performance from the franchise quarterback paid at elite level. That's not much to ask. God forbid we ask of him to win some fucking games for the Ravens.

Bobby Rainey tripped and Camp dropped one but they also scored on great individual effort. What has Joe done for us lately?

Throw passes that get dropped in crucial turning points of the game?

 

[Rusfan]

Throw passes that get dropped in crucial turning points of the game?

Or throw td's to players but t hey trip over themselves

 

[Rusfan]

If we could try to push the ball downfield then the LB's couldn't feed on the underneath stuff that gets our WR's killed

 

[3-4ravdef509]

And how in the hell did you forget about and leave BIG BEN out of that scenario? That cat extends and makes plays for his team like nobody's business. Well, minus his 5 INT's against the Jags.

He's also suffered a lot of injuries missed a lot of time and really hasn't accomplished much more than Joe has in his career.

 

[Jacquouille]

If we could try to push the ball downfield then the LB's couldn't feed on the underneath stuff that gets our WR's killed

That requires WR to get separation and OL to hold up.

 

[Tank]

"apologists" lol Just look at facts and provide plausible comments that make sense. That's all.

"Let's start by stating a fact: Joe Flacco didn't have a great day during the Ravens' 27-24 overtime loss to the Bears Oct. 15. That's obvious based on the accepted fact we have to work with. When a quarterback finishes with a 48.8 rating, there's no way to argue he had a great day. But there's a funny thing that happens when someone actually watches a football game. It's a thing where we have the nuance to understand whether the struggles of the offense rest on the shoulders of the quarterback, or, say, on ...

- A first interception that came after a ball hit wide receiver Breshad Perriman directly in the hands
- A second interception that came after a pass hit wide receiver Chris Moore square in the chest.
- A would-be first down that wasn't because running back Bobby Rainey tripped over his own feet in the open field.
- A would-be first down that wasn't because tight end Maxx Williams fumbled after picking up the necessary yardage and the Bears recovered.
- A would-be first down that wasn't because wide receiver Michael Campanaro dropped a ball that hit him in the hands in the middle of the field.
- A would-be touchdown that wasn't because wide receiver Chris Matthews tripped over his own feet when he was wide open in the end zone.

I'll stop there. If three or four of these plays are actually made, I have no idea if we'd look at the totality of Flacco's day and suddenly say, "Wow, the quarterback really played well." But it's easy to see what an impact this group of pass-catching failures had in conspiring to tell the story of his overall performance. "

 

[Sooky]

"apologists" lol Just look at facts and provide plausible comments that make sense. That's all.

"Let's start by stating a fact: Joe Flacco didn't have a great day during the Ravens' 27-24 overtime loss to the Bears Oct. 15. That's obvious based on the accepted fact we have to work with. When a quarterback finishes with a 48.8 rating, there's no way to argue he had a great day. But there's a funny thing that happens when someone actually watches a football game. It's a thing where we have the nuance to understand whether the struggles of the offense rest on the shoulders of the quarterback, or, say, on ...

- A first interception that came after a ball hit wide receiver Breshad Perriman directly in the hands
- A second interception that came after a pass hit wide receiver Chris Moore square in the chest.
- A would-be first down that wasn't because running back Bobby Rainey tripped over his own feet in the open field.
- A would-be first down that wasn't because tight end Maxx Williams fumbled after picking up the necessary yardage and the Bears recovered.
- A would-be first down that wasn't because wide receiver Michael Campanaro dropped a ball that hit him in the hands in the middle of the field.
- A would-be touchdown that wasn't because wide receiver Chris Matthews tripped over his own feet when he was wide open in the end zone.

I'll stop there. If three or four of these plays are actually made, I have no idea if we'd look at the totality of Flacco's day and suddenly say, "Wow, the quarterback really played well." But it's easy to see what an impact this group of pass-catching failures had in conspiring to tell the story of his overall performance. "

I agree I love Joe Flacco and I can point out the losses that fall squarely on him. There are usually a few each season I can say this for. But this wasn't one of them. Drive killers from stupid mistakes. This falls squarely on the o-line and WRs this game.

 

[OURavensFan]

Or throw td's to players but t hey trip over themselves

It's seriously a sick joke. Having to watch incompetent WR play every year only to hear people complain about the QB every damn year. And I get it, sometimes he does deserve blame, but WR mistakes really change how the stats look and when stats are typically the construct used to discredit him I get seriously bothered when WRs don't make a play 80% of other WRs make for other teams. I get sick watching other teams and how their WRs make insane catches every game, ours are pathetic.

I'm open I'm open!!! Trips and falls. That's why you'll always be in a journeyman Matthews

 

[29BmoreBird22]

I think what gets most people is that there are fans who will blindly blame the receivers unless Joe has another SB run.

It wouldn't matter if we had Julio and AJ Green; it wouldn't be enough for people.

The article mentioned that other top tier quarterbacks get all these big name weapons. Not true. Alex Smith is tearing it up with fifth round pick Tyreek Hill and Albert Wilson starting (who?). Ben Roethlisberger has a tight end drafted in the third, and two starting receivers drafted in the fourth and sixth. Philip Rivers has to deal with a rotating cast because Allen is always injured and Mike Williams is out. Travis Benjamin and Tyrell Williams? Terrifying. There's more examples, but the point stands that a good quarterback can make it work with less because at some point, that's what your cap dictates.

Mike Wallace and Jeremy Maclin were quality receivers before Baltimore and I know Maclin was the choice receiver for Ravens fans, but now they're nothing special. They're below average. Ben Watson tore it up in NO before coming to Baltimore, but hey, he sucks.

I cannot get behind the hate for the receivers.

 

[Militant X 1]

"apologists" lol Just look at facts and provide plausible comments that make sense. That's all.

"Let's start by stating a fact: Joe Flacco didn't have a great day during the Ravens' 27-24 overtime loss to the Bears Oct. 15. That's obvious based on the accepted fact we have to work with. When a quarterback finishes with a 48.8 rating, there's no way to argue he had a great day. But there's a funny thing that happens when someone actually watches a football game. It's a thing where we have the nuance to understand whether the struggles of the offense rest on the shoulders of the quarterback, or, say, on ...

- A first interception that came after a ball hit wide receiver Breshad Perriman directly in the hands
- A second interception that came after a pass hit wide receiver Chris Moore square in the chest.
- A would-be first down that wasn't because running back Bobby Rainey tripped over his own feet in the open field.
- A would-be first down that wasn't because tight end Maxx Williams fumbled after picking up the necessary yardage and the Bears recovered.
- A would-be first down that wasn't because wide receiver Michael Campanaro dropped a ball that hit him in the hands in the middle of the field.
- A would-be touchdown that wasn't because wide receiver Chris Matthews tripped over his own feet when he was wide open in the end zone.

I'll stop there. If three or four of these plays are actually made, I have no idea if we'd look at the totality of Flacco's day and suddenly say, "Wow, the quarterback really played well." But it's easy to see what an impact this group of pass-catching failures had in conspiring to tell the story of his overall performance. "

While I agree that Flacco's receivers didn't help him, he also didn't help himself against the Bears either...

- Flacco's 1st sack in which while there was no one open, he just pumped faked the ball and then instead of running out of the collapsing pocket to the left side for some yards....he just ridiculously spun around right into the hands of a defender.

- Flacco overthrows Perriman on 3rd & 11. Well...Perriman is a BUM....but still!

- Flacco's throw to Perriman (the 1st interception) was thrown low and nearly got him killed! Well...Perriman is a BUM but still!

- Flacco's 2nd sack came when the pocket was collapsing and he refused to run to the left for some yards due to starring to his right.

- The next play Flacco throws a ball that was way too high and out of bounds to Moore.
- The next play Flacco takes a delay of game. That's rookie type
- The next play was a dump off to Rainey that drew a penalty advancing the Ravens offense to 1st & goal.
- The next play Flacco throw to Watson was too late and allowed Fuller to close on it. If Flacco throws it earlier its a TD!
- The next play Flacco horribly overthrows Wallace in the endzone.

- Later in the game....Flacco crosses the line of scrimmage and throws the ball to Wallace in the endzone. Again, that's rookie type

- The offense DIDN'T SCORE A TD. Who leads the offense?

Now, because I ACTUALLY WATCH FOOTBALL GAMES, I could go on and on about Flacco's obvious involvement in the Ravens offensive ineptness but I'll stop there.

 

[OURavensFan]

While I agree that Flacco's receivers didn't help him, he also didn't help himself against the Bears either...

- Flacco's 1st sack in which while there was no one open, he just pumped faked the ball and then instead of running out of the collapsing pocket to the left side for some yards....he just ridiculously spun around right into the hands of a defender.

- Flacco overthrows Perriman on 3rd & 11. Well...Perriman is a BUM....but still!

- Flacco's throw to Perriman (the 1st interception) was thrown low and nearly got him killed! Well...Perriman is a BUM but still!

- Flacco's 2nd sack came when the pocket was collapsing and he refused to run to the left for some yards due to starring to his right.

- The next play Flacco throws a ball that was way too high and out of bounds to Moore.
- The next play Flacco takes a delay of game. That's rookie type
- The next play was a dump off to Rainey that drew a penalty advancing the Ravens offense to 1st & goal.
- The next play Flacco throw to Watson was too late and allowed Fuller to close on it. If Flacco throws it earlier its a TD!
- The next play Flacco horribly overthrows Wallace in the endzone.

- Later in the game....Flacco crosses the line of scrimmage and throws the ball to Wallace in the endzone. Again, that's rookie type

- The offense DIDN'T SCORE A TD. Who leads the offense?

Now, because I ACTUALLY WATCH FOOTBALL GAMES, I could go on and on about Flacco's obvious involvement in the Ravens offensive ineptness but I'll stop there.

In summary, our offense hurts to watch.

The Bears are who we thought they were, and we let them off the hook

 

[29BmoreBird22]

So, after reading the article Tank posted and Eisenberg's article from after the game, I noticed that both tried to put all blame squarely in Chris Moore for the interception. Not at all.

Watch the play. Flacco has ample time to make a throw from the pocket, but holds the ball and rolls out. The entire time he rolls out, he's locked on to Chris Moore.

Then, to make it worse, Flacco waited until Moore came out of his break and then waited until Fuller came back into the picture and begun closing the gap to throw the ball.

Had Flacco thrown the ball before Moore turned around, we're talking about a good throw and catch.

Instead, Flacco stares down his man and throws late with no anticipation and Fuller makes an excellent play to help force the pick 6.

Also, a bit of comical mishap, but Joe diving at Amos actually cut Chris Moore off of making the tackle to prevent the touchdown.

 

[Militant X 1]

So, after reading the article Tank posted and Eisenberg's article from after the game, I noticed that both tried to put all blame squarely in Chris Moore for the interception. Not at all.

Watch the play. Flacco has ample time to make a throw from the pocket, but holds the ball and rolls out. The entire time he rolls out, he's locked on to Chris Moore.

Then, to make it worse, Flacco waited until Moore came out of his break and then waited until Fuller came back into the picture and begun closing the gap to throw the ball.

Had Flacco thrown the ball before Moore turned around, we're talking about a good throw and catch.

Instead, Flacco stares down his man and throws late with no anticipation and Fuller makes an excellent play to help force the pick 6.

Also, a bit of comical mishap, but Joe diving at Amos actually cut Chris Moore off of making the tackle to prevent the touchdown.

Shhh! Watch what you say in here because posters think that Ravens fans don't actually watch football games!

 

[Militant X 1]

In summary, our offense hurts to watch.

The Bears are who we thought they were, and we let them off the hook

What is getting more painful to watch is Flacco as the QB. There...I SAID IT!

 

[29BmoreBird22]

Also, adding to the previous point about the quality of receivers, Joe played better than this in 2015 with Chris Givens and Kamar Aiken as his top receivers.

In 2015, he had James Hurst protecting his blind side and Jeremy Zuttah at center.

Marc Trestman was the damn coordinator.

Yeah, let's act like he's never stepped up his game before and put it everywhere except on the shoulder of Flacco.

 

[ALI624]

Watching the beginning of Any Given Sunday right now and it so similar to what’s happening now with an old school coaching in a new school game that is not working. Where’s Willie Beamen when you need him.

 

[JAAM]

While I agree that Flacco's receivers didn't help him, he also didn't help himself against the Bears either...

- Flacco's 1st sack in which while there was no one open, he just pumped faked the ball and then instead of running out of the collapsing pocket to the left side for some yards....he just ridiculously spun around right into the hands of a defender.

- Flacco overthrows Perriman on 3rd & 11. Well...Perriman is a BUM....but still!

- Flacco's throw to Perriman (the 1st interception) was thrown low and nearly got him killed! Well...Perriman is a BUM but still!

- Flacco's 2nd sack came when the pocket was collapsing and he refused to run to the left for some yards due to starring to his right.

- The next play Flacco throws a ball that was way too high and out of bounds to Moore.
- The next play Flacco takes a delay of game. That's rookie type
- The next play was a dump off to Rainey that drew a penalty advancing the Ravens offense to 1st & goal.
- The next play Flacco throw to Watson was too late and allowed Fuller to close on it. If Flacco throws it earlier its a TD!
- The next play Flacco horribly overthrows Wallace in the endzone.

- Later in the game....Flacco crosses the line of scrimmage and throws the ball to Wallace in the endzone. Again, that's rookie type

- The offense DIDN'T SCORE A TD. Who leads the offense?

Now, because I ACTUALLY WATCH FOOTBALL GAMES, I could go on and on about Flacco's obvious involvement in the Ravens offensive ineptness but I'll stop there.

I love how apologists are ignoring the fact that Flacco took a delay of game in a crucial moment AND knowingly threw the ball while he was past the line of scrimmage. Unacceptable for a 10 year vet, but hey, Super Bowl run 5 years ago.