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Joe Flacco
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allblackraven
Hall of Famer
Don't you see a contradiction there? If the goal is playoff, why consciously ride with injured Joe, having in mind he didn't play well even before the injury? Lamar gives us hope, with Joe there's none.
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
You mean in the way Flacco hits it on a regular basis?
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
Traits fam, traits.
What was his biggest concern overall? Mechanics and lower body motions from the pocket. He had footwork like an entirely new player in that drive and it was evident
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
It’s because people are looking for “wow” moments rather than seeing the fine points and knowing how to cross reference the difference between old and new film
Cville-Raven
MVP
Yup, banged up on top of a string of very shitty performances. It's a no brainer to play someone else right now.
Tank
Hall of Famer
Or if Joe can't play you go with Rob who is a known quantity with NFL experience, at least until you are eliminated from the tournament.
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
Let it go. He needs to hold a clipboard for Lamar. Tablet, actually - it's modern times.
but why? why not let lamar (or RGIII) play and see if he balls out and then joe gets to come back healthier so that if we were to make the playoffs that joe is back healthy ready to make a run rather than fizzle out due to accumulated pain and injuries
RGIII only starts if they think Lamar isnt ready - this isnt an experience thing given that RGIII's last start was in 2016 and he hasnt exactly shined as a qb starter since his rookie season...
id say that hurst throw made me "wow" - in fact the efficiency of that whole drive made me "wow" with how easy he made it look - yes he was playing some backups but that hardly matters when he's also got a load of backups on his side too and that he looked vastly different to preseason and even vs buffalo
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
So... with this team, you’re counting on RG3 to finish the season 5-2 or 6-1 because you wanna hold out hopes for the playoffs...
And you think he’s got a better chance than lamar? Based on what exactly...
Big newsflash here, rookies can play, I know you’ve grown so used to the Harbaugh way so you also think rookies should all be redshirted, but that’s not the case. Rg3 gives us a 0% chance of making the playoffs just like lamar and joe give us. The difference is one is our future and the other is a proven bust.
You are so infatuated with Flacco that you literally want lamar to fail/never see the field. You would prefer to see joe get his hip shattered and lead us to .500 at best, or see RG3 do the same, than to see lamar come in and bring a spark.
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
His pocket climb on the hurst throw was beautiful, that pocket poise and awareness is something we’ve literally never seen from Flacco, if that’s joe he’s staying 5 steps behind center until the backside rush is in his lap and sprinting left and throwing out of bounds, like almost for certain, that exact struggle on that exact play is a routine thing for joe
Tank
Hall of Famer
LMAO! yeah, no.....way off base and dead wrong, has zero to do with anyone being "infatuated" with anyone, that's just something someone made up because they don't like my opinion. What I want to see is the Ravens make the playoffs and the IMO a healthy Flacco gives them the best chance at doing that. If he's not 100% then IMO Rob gives them the next best chance at winning. If they are eliminated from the tournament then I could maybe see giving LJ some playing time for the experience. BIG NEWS FLASH HERE...... Lamar has a ton of potential and ALL RAVENS FANS hope he eventually pans out, but you don't pin your efforts to make the post season on unproven hopes.
but what i dont understand is why you think RGIII is a better shot to win than Lamar Jackson given that RGIII hasnt started a game since 2016 and didnt play football of any kind through the whole of the 2017 season
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
Marty trained him and brought back all the promise from Bob's rookie year.
Tank
Hall of Famer
Pretty simple. He has played in the NFL and has been successful as a starter. LJ's last start in a meaningful game was at the college level, and it wasn't so hot. Of course we know he as improved but we have no idea how he will perform under pressure when it counts. I'm also pretty sure Rob has learned and improved in that time as well and is the better option at this point.
balfan23
MVP
I was watching the Good Morning Football group discuss this and one of them was saying he didn't think Lamar was ready to start because 'If he were ready, don't you think he'd be playing by now?". Um, you do know who our head coach is, right? All we could do is assume Orlando Brown wasn't ready to play ... until he was forced to play ... and showed what many suspected - that he was our best option at RT. Even after that, we all sit around wondering if he gets benched and we go back to the same old configuration that hasn't been working well all season.
balfan23
MVP
All through this bye, I've wanted to see Lamar this weekend. Then this illness crops up and I now worry that he both won't be at 100% and hasn't gotten enough reps. I'm concerned he may not be our best option.
It may be narrow minded, but I think pretty much anybody but Flacco right now. One of the guys on GMFB was saying Harbaugh was going to ride his tried and true guy rather than take a leap into the unknown. Another responded that yes, he's going to ride him all the way to another 8-8 finish and to the end of his job. "This team needs the defibrillator" ... really well said. Anything to attempt to jump a pulse into this team.
If Lamar isn't well and hasn't had enough prep, I want RGIII out there. I simply don't want to see Joe under center again for the Ravens. Now, if they put him out there and we win - not just this game but win enough to punch our ticket - I may be eating these words. However, Lamar achieved the same, it would be infinitely better than doing it with Joe.
It may be narrow minded, but I think pretty much anybody but Flacco right now. One of the guys on GMFB was saying Harbaugh was going to ride his tried and true guy rather than take a leap into the unknown. Another responded that yes, he's going to ride him all the way to another 8-8 finish and to the end of his job. "This team needs the defibrillator" ... really well said. Anything to attempt to jump a pulse into this team.
If Lamar isn't well and hasn't had enough prep, I want RGIII out there. I simply don't want to see Joe under center again for the Ravens. Now, if they put him out there and we win - not just this game but win enough to punch our ticket - I may be eating these words. However, Lamar achieved the same, it would be infinitely better than doing it with Joe.
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
In what world do you think we have a realistic shot at the playoffs? We still have to play the chargers and chiefs on the road which are almost certain Ls and we are an egg laying team and we will lay another egg at some point. We aren’t gonna finish 5-2 with joe, rg3, or lamar, and if it comes down to rg3 or lamar, I have absolutely no idea why you think rg3 gives us a better chance. If our offense takes off with rg3 at qb it will almost certainly be because rg3 might boost the run game, and that involves a shitload of moving parts too, and if the run game and read option playbook is what saves our season, give me lamar over rg3 all day, lamar has always been more poised and aware in the pocket, he looked more nfl ready at Louisville due to his pocket presence than rg3 looked 2 seasons in, and as a runner they aren’t even in the same universe.