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The WR Thread

Batcerb said:
A guy that seems to be fairly high on Matt Miller's board ...

Korey Robertson

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Holy shit. This guy looks special from that highlight reel. What I really like is his awareness and supreme confidence in his catching, like he is fully aware of his surroundings and he knows when he needs to attack the ball and when he can make a gut catch to avoid breaking stride and to keep the ball boxed out.

I need to watch film rather than highlights to find his weaknesses, but that's a damn impressive highlight.
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
Holy shit. This guy looks special from that highlight reel. What I really like is his awareness and supreme confidence in his catching, like he is fully aware of his surroundings and he knows when he needs to attack the ball and when he can make a gut catch to avoid breaking stride and to keep the ball boxed out.

I need to watch film rather than highlights to find his weaknesses, but that's a damn impressive highlight.
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Just from the highlights that motherfucker looks like Justin Blackmon if he could stay off the weed. Which is a damn good thing as Blackmon did look good when he was on the field.


He's caught my eye. After watching tape I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he makes my top 5 WRs for the class.
 
Lost_In_Translation said:
Just from the highlights that motherfucker looks like Justin Blackmon if he could stay off the weed. Which is a damn good thing as Blackmon did look good when he was on the field.


He's caught my eye. After watching tape I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he makes my top 5 WRs for the class.
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Didn't watch tape yet, but that highlight shows a top 5 wr easy assuming there are no glaring weaknesses that show on film
 
Lost_In_Translation said:
I'd say Humphrey was boom or bust. He had legit concerns about the deep ball that could have derailed the entirity of his career. Now he's put some of that concern to rest thanks to some clearl improvements he's made(he's farther along than I anticipated he would be, that's for sure).

That said I do agree with the notion that Stanley and Mosley were very safe picks. And both have turned into upper tier players. That said, I personally do think that Stanley turns into an elite LT. He's got the athleticism to do it. He had a "down year", but also wasn't a total liability.. Like at all. Mosley had a down year but also played through injury and is very well respected around the league.

Just saying. We could use a "safer pick". Although you don't think Calvin Ridley is going to be elite(me netiher) I do think he's a very safe pick. Would be ideal.

Courtland Sutton would be boom or bust, but I have a decent feeling about him.

Of course. If Nelson is there we should absolutely take him. He's a safe prospect who's likely to become an elite player. Those types don't come around that often
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Ridley is def a safe pick. A good player that wont ever let yoh down but not a game changer imo
 
Big fan of DJ Moore as well. This WR class isn't elite, but there are a few players here that I think could become quality players.
 
Lost_In_Translation said:
Big fan of DJ Moore as well. This WR class isn't elite, but there are a few players here that I think could become quality players.
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Yeah. I see a group of guys that could become mid-tier WR1s, and a bunch of potentialy WR 2s and 3s. We can build a quality receiving core out of two guys from this draft.

Though, unlike some others, I don't want us going WR in the first unless Ridley is there. The second through fourth rounds will be the best spots to grab WRs and receiving TEs in this draft. At least in my opinion.
 
I have to watch more of Korey as well. I think he is a round1 player for sure. So far in my opinion DJ Chark is gonna eventually be the best Receiver of this class. Unless Korey gives me reason to believe it is him. Chark may go round2 cuz of not having much tape. In that case ravens would have to trade up
JoeyFlex5 said:
Still have yet to watch tape but his highlights are maybe the most impressive of the class, if that's his regular play then he could have a rise like Corey Davis
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Sledge Hammer said:
I have to watch more of Korey as well. I think he is a round1 player for sure. So far in my opinion DJ Chark is gonna eventually be the best Receiver of this class. Unless Korey gives me reason to believe it is him. Chark may go round2 cuz of not having much tape. In that case ravens would have to trade up
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LSU receivers are hard to grade because there's such a small sample size of them with such shit qb play, chark took over the senior bowl though and looked damn good doing it.

I'm still going with Ridley as the best, with Miller having a chance to bypass him if he's on the right team, but I see a shitload of NFL caliber talent from korey Robertson, his ball attacking and YAC are absurd, and I believe strongly that if you can be super elusive with the ball in your hands then you can run routes.

I'll watch him soon
 
Ravensnation5220 said:
@JoeyFlex5 http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/anthony-miller?id=2559909&id=2559909
Pretty realistic evaluation of Miller here. I think hes being a little too picky on the unnessesary"excessive movement" in routes but his points on double catching short throws is spot on. Also noticed Millers fumbling issues on tape as well
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It is realistic, however I don't see how those weaknesses override the strengths enough to make him a goddamn round 3 guy lol. That list of strengths is beautiful and accurate as hell and indicates a wr who should be a slam dunk pick, and concentration drops on short throws and double catches are the only meaningful downsides, and with his volume of production a few drops are very excusable.
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
It is realistic, however I don't see how those weaknesses override the strengths enough to make him a goddamn round 3 guy lol. That list of strengths is beautiful and accurate as hell and indicates a wr who should be a slam dunk pick, and concentration drops on short throws and double catches are the only meaningful downsides, and with his volume of production a few drops are very excusable.
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Ya i agree. Really weird draft range. Like i posted above he also has Kirk as a 4th round grade. Yet he has a higher grade on Dante Pettis than both of them.....which is beyond me.....maybe its their value as slot recievers that give him pause. Tbf slot recievers shouldnt be drafted in the 1st round....maybe 2nd but its still a tough call. Maybe he doesnt see Miller winning outside enough to consider him more than just a slot guy idk
 
Ravensnation5220 said:
Ya i agree. Really weird draft range. Like i posted above he also has Kirk as a 4th round grade. Yet he has a higher grade on Dante Pettis than both of them.....which is beyond me.....maybe its their value as slot recievers that give him pause. Tbf slot recievers shouldnt be drafted in the 1st round....maybe 2nd but its still a tough call. Maybe he doesnt see Miller winning outside enough to consider him more than just a slot guy idk
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At his size he's automatically pigeonholed in the slot, but I think he can definitely win outside with his footwork off the line and his upper body strength, he should be able to handfight well enough with those long armed DBs but he shouldn't even need to do it much since his footwork should give him a clean release fairly often. Antonio brown is about the same size and he's not a slot guy, he wins off the line with footwork and gets open through suddenness and savvy.

If Miller continues improving his route prowess and he gets a little more savvy and creative then he should have no issues on the outside. Not to mention he works the sideline better than any wr in this class and you're selling him short by not letting him squeeze that sideline on some back shoulder fades
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
At his size he's automatically pigeonholed in the slot, but I think he can definitely win outside with his footwork off the line and his upper body strength, he should be able to handfight well enough with those long armed DBs but he shouldn't even need to do it much since his footwork should give him a clean release fairly often. Antonio brown is about the same size and he's not a slot guy, he wins off the line with footwork and gets open through suddenness and savvy.

If Miller continues improving his route prowess and he gets a little more savvy and creative then he should have no issues on the outside. Not to mention he works the sideline better than any wr in this class and you're selling him short by not letting him squeeze that sideline on some back shoulder fades
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Im a believer that Miller can win outside. Thats why i have a second round grade on him. His ball control, foot problem, and lack of length is what gives me pause but i think he will be very successful at the next level. Hes probably the guy i want most in the 2nd round and i think its good value for a guy like him. I mean juju went in the second as well. I just worry the ravens will be scared away by his foot issue
 
Perhaps I am way off here, but I wonder if it's the QBs, rather than the front office and coaching that makes the difference. Am I out of line to think that Antonio Brown would be roughly Chris Moore talent on this team? That Perriman might be doing everything that Wallace and Sanders did with them, rather than being a bust? I just don't see Flacco having the patience/mentality/whatever to wait for receivers to get more than 5 yards down the field before throwing check downs. Maybe an upper tier talent is going to always end up a bust on this team. Maybe Ben, like Brady, can rock the world with almost anyone. Am I wrong?
My apologies if this is in the wrong forum, but last I checked, the Flacco thread had nothing to do with him.
 
Corvus Purpura said:
Perhaps I am way off here, but I wonder if it's the QBs, rather than the front office and coaching that makes the difference. Am I out of line to think that Antonio Brown would be roughly Chris Moore talent on this team? That Perriman might be doing everything that Wallace and Sanders did with them, rather than being a bust? I just don't see Flacco having the patience/mentality/whatever to wait for receivers to get more than 5 yards down the field before throwing check downs. Maybe an upper tier talent is going to always end up a bust on this team. Maybe Ben, like Brady, can rock the world with almost anyone. Am I wrong?
My apologies if this is in the wrong forum, but last I checked, the Flacco thread had nothing to do with him.
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I don't think you're wrong at all.
If not for Brees, M. Thomas never turns from good receiver into a monster. It's not how coaches teach you technique, it's how you get into position where your QB expects you to be. It's about how much work is put into it by QB and WRs or, on the other hand, about "If I'm not required to be there, I'm not there".
 
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