The Good, the Bad, the Ugly, and the Ravens Offense: Week 6 Edition

[rossihunter2]

Btw, anyone catch another piss poor performence by the baltimore media? softest media in sports.

if this were a big market team they would be taking harbaugh to task.

its because there just arent that many beat writers around town - i normally like jeff zrebiec as pretty even keeled and fair but there's not many other guys who would feel comfortable tearing apart the team which is a problem - and part of that i think is because they get so many "favours" from kevin byrne

 

[Sami84]

I'm going to put my hand on my heart here. I don't like who represents our team. I'm tired of the zeolot like nationalistic, religiious, brainwashed feel of the team. The over religious ideology, the dodgy k.byrne and his fake smile. I've lost a lot of respect for s.biscoitti in particular. I saw him before all this as a cool guy that took no shit and did the right thing. he's just proven to me with the whole kaep thing that he's just a weak minded guy. Talking about '' Pray for us'' '' I like how he went from sitting to going down to 1 knee''.. what trivial BS is this?

We've become a weak team on so many fronts.

 

[rossihunter2]

I'm going to put my hand on my heart here. I don't like who represents our team. I'm tired of the zeolot like nationalistic, religiious, brainwashed feel of the team. The over religious ideology, the dodgy k.byrne and his fake smile. I've lost a lot of respect for s.biscoitti in particular. I saw him before all this as a cool guy that took no shit and did the right thing. he's just proven to me with the whole kaep thing that he's just a weak minded guy. Talking about '' Pray for us'' '' I like how he went from sitting to going down to 1 knee''.. what trivial BS is this?

We've become a weak team on so many fronts.

not sure i agree about biscotti but i 100% agree that i dislike everything about kevin byrne

 

[Deebo813]

Weddle has always showed poor tackling for last few years. Jefferson is just not good in cvg. This shouldnt be a surprise to anyone.

 

[Deebo813]

Lol " ravens beat out by cards for AP"

 

[29BmoreBird22]

Clearly you can't read. "NO ONE is BLAMING the defense". "Clearly the offense did nothing. But I DON'T even BLAME them really". So not blaming either for anything because the issue falls way higher up. Not blaming them does not mean ignoring the issues they had. Again, EVERY SINGLE TEAM HAS INJURIES EVERY SINGLE SEASON. In fact, many have key players get injured. So no one is accountable until we have a season where no one gets injured? It's comical.

And stop saying bs things. I've not seen anyone who is "cool" with the offense. I believe most have called it pathetic, vanilla, ridiculous, garbage, etc. Not just for this game either. And you are one to talk about being "cool" with mediocre shit considering NOTHING is ever the defense's fault, or Pees' fault, as long as one person is injured.

Sayonf I'm not goinf to blame the defense, but they collapsed when it mattered most is essentially blaming the defense. Saying we can't blame the offense and putting the blame elsewhere beside the players is being cool with how they played.

You're absurd.

 

[Truth]

I'd bet on a mix, too, but I want a detailed breakdown because there are people who want to completely absolve Joe of any blame.

Is it always busy throughout the school year or just during the fall start up?

I'm with you on the former. At best, it appears to be a combination, and any such options would likely be somewhat biased.

It's mostly busier than usual during the start up with district's scrambling around to get their teachers and schools licensed, but my plate is relatively full throughout as I'm given added responsibilities to make certain that I reach the 40 hour mark. Appreciate you asking.

 

[Jacquouille]

not sure i agree about biscotti but i 100% agree that i dislike everything about kevin byrne

Seconded. I'm very thankful Bisciotti is our owner, he's the man. Byrne is discomforting as hell.

Weddle has always showed poor tackling for last few years. Jefferson is just not good in cvg. This shouldnt be a surprise to anyone.

That is 100% wrong, FilmStudy proved it when we got him.

 

[RavensDFan]

Sayonf I'm not goinf to blame the defense, but they collapsed when it mattered most is essentially blaming the defense. Saying we can't blame the offense and putting the blame elsewhere beside the players is being cool with how they played.

You're absurd.

No you're absurd. Once again you apparently have reading comprehension issues. "Not blaming them doesn't mean ignoring the issues they had". Pointing out issues they had, on both sides of the ball, doesn't mean blaming them. Because, in order to try to demean my point, you ignored that I also said of the offense "Clearly the offense did nothing". So wouldn't that mean I was blaming them as well then???

There is a bigger issue here than the on the field issues. But again, you ignored the question. Do we need an injury free season before you admit to those bigger issues? Or are you just going to keep on dragging that injury crutch around?

You also managed to ignore how your ypc stats to try to claim the defense actually did a stellar job are misleading.

 

[29BmoreBird22]

No you're absurd. Once again you apparently have reading comprehension issues. "Not blaming them doesn't mean ignoring the issues they had". Pointing out issues they had, on both sides of the ball, doesn't mean blaming them. Because, in order to try to demean my point, you ignored that I also said of the offense "Clearly the offense did nothing". So wouldn't that mean I was blaming them as well then???

There is a bigger issue here than the on the field issues. But again, you ignored the question. Do we need an injury free season before you admit to those bigger issues? Or are you just going to keep on dragging that injury crutch around?

You also managed to ignore how your ypc stats to try to claim the defense actually did a stellar job are misleading.

Sure, tell me how the defensive stats are misleading.

I get that blaming them doesn't mean ignoring the issues, but you're basically saying, "They played poorly and did nothing, but that's okay because Ozzie didn't get a Julio Jones."

For the offense, you're accepting they played poorly and then simultaneously making an excuse for why it's okay that they play poorly. For the defense, you're saying it wasn't their fault and immediately after taking a shot at them.

I have acknowledged the bigger issues multiple times and rebuked it. I'm sorry I don't buy into the BS.

And I'm not sure you understand the severity of these injuries.

 

[Ravensnation5220]

I would love to know what happened to the "best safety duo" in the afc? Weddleband Jeffereson hace been pretty piss poor to me

 

[jboy19]

I would love to know what happened to the "best safety duo" in the afc? Weddleband Jeffereson hace been pretty piss poor to me

It's a little worrisome that the team made Jefferson is a franchise player and they are trying to make him something he is not (a cover safety).

 

[gtalk12]

Do we still think that the safeties or the defense have been an issue and not the fact that we give the ball back to the other team quickly?

 

[gtalk12]

I would love to know what happened to the "best safety duo" in the afc? Weddleband Jeffereson hace been pretty piss poor to me

Baltimore is currently ranked 7th in points per game allowed in the AFC and 5th in pass yards per game allowed.

They are 11th in the league and 5th respectively league wide.


As an offense, we average 19 a game league wide which is good for 24th. In the AFC that ranks for 11th.

The real telling statistic in all of this is the yards per game, this proves whether or not we can move the ball and give the defense a break. We currently rank 13th in the AFC and 29th league wide. THAT is the issue with our defense/safety duo.

 

[jboy19]

Do we still think that the safeties or the defense have been an issue and not the fact that we give the ball back to the other team quickly?

Have to think that it's both. Yeah they're on the field for a decent amount of time, but the safety play has been less than inspiring. Jefferson specifically has given up 4 TDs in coverage so far and Weddle has also had his share of mistakes (the missed tackle in OT on Sunday comes to mind).

 

[arnie_uk]

Do we still think that the safeties or the defense have been an issue and not the fact that we give the ball back to the other team quickly?

Pitts 10 min drive for their first possession tells me its not the offenses performance affecting our d.

My biggest issue is that one player (williams) has such a massive affect on our defense!!

 

[allblackraven]

Pitts 10 min drive for their first possession tells me its not the offenses performance affecting our d.

My biggest issue is that one player (williams) has such a massive affect on our defense!!

That massive effect of the absence of a single player is squarely on DC and is nothing new. Remember SB and Ngata injury (excused on lights going out), Jimmy Smith's lisfranc, now Williams? We can never adjust and make up for it.

 

[gtalk12]

Pitts 10 min drive for their first possession tells me its not the offenses performance affecting our d.

My biggest issue is that one player (williams) has such a massive affect on our defense!!

First quarter they scored a grand total of 3 points, and the 3 points came on that first drive. Us? Our first drive was a grand total of 7 plays, after that we had 4 straight series with 3 plays....3 PLAYS, and on of them was a fumble. That fumble turned into a touchdown. The very next series is another 3 and out and they scored another touchdown.

Our defense was GASSED and I remember telling my girlfriend that the Ravens look tired out there thanks to our offense.


Also, outside of our first series of 7 plays, it took 8 drives BEFORE we had more than 6 plays for the series...we failed to move the chains and give the defense a rest.

The play we intercepted Big Ben? You know what the offense did? -6 yards on 4 plays and had to settle for a field goal.

They have the best RB in the league and had our offense had done ANYTHING in the first half the game would have been different. Our first point came in the 3rd quarter....and even then we were still in the game, thanks to our gassed defense

 

[gtalk12]

oh, and it was Weddle who caused the turnover the offense FAILED to capitalize on

 

[RavensDFan]

Sure, tell me how the defensive stats are misleading.

I get that blaming them doesn't mean ignoring the issues, but you're basically saying, "They played poorly and did nothing, but that's okay because Ozzie didn't get a Julio Jones."

For the offense, you're accepting they played poorly and then simultaneously making an excuse for why it's okay that they play poorly. For the defense, you're saying it wasn't their fault and immediately after taking a shot at them.

I have acknowledged the bigger issues multiple times and rebuked it. I'm sorry I don't buy into the BS.

And I'm not sure you understand the severity of these injuries.

The injuries are always severe. Every year. No matter who is injured. One year it was Suggs. One year it was Jimmy. This year it is BWill.

I take a shot at them because it is the same old story, year after year after year and it doesn't matter who is injured or if anyone is at all. Play a great game overall and fail when it counts at the end. That is what they do. For years now. Would it have mattered in the end? Yeah probably not in the least since the offense was dialing it in. That doesn't mean it isn't an issue. They faced a Bears' team with a rookie QB with his first road start that they KNEW were going to run the ball. Yes I get that it isn't as bad as the overall yards make it seem to be, but still it is pretty bad. And you don't think that even a bit of that fail can be placed on the DC?

So you don't buy into the fact we could have traded up for Ramsey and that he could have taken this defense to the next level? And that the guy we got instead has done little to help anything?

So you don't buy into the fact that we rarely use high picks for offense and when we do they always have these "issues". Could be great IF his hands dont' continue to be a problem. etc. Torrey did well but we drafted him to be a true #1 and he wasn't. Just wanted paid like one. I know you have this we can't develop offensive talent theory but the facts don't support it. Pretty sure no WR or TE has left here and gone to another team to be a superstar. We can't draft offensive talent (or we don't target it, a bit of both) and this has been ongoing for years. Yet we've done nothing to remedy it.

You think Marty had a great gameplan? You think he called great plays? lol Do you? Somehow I think you're smarter than that.

Name one other franchise QB in his tenth year that has the turnover of OCs, the turnover at RB, the turnover at WR, the turnover at TE that this team has seen. Not just one of those things but ALL of them. There is no consistency and then we want to whine (myself included) that Flacco & his receivers have no chemistry. It's a joke. I kid you not if I was Flacco I'd be begging to be released by this team. He'd be picked up in a heartbeat and there is a 98% chance his new FO would not ignore the offense.

We see the results of these issues on the field and we blame the players because they play the game but these issues are way higher and way deeper.