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2018 Free Agency

The Chiefs GM pretty much said Bears will sign WR Albert Wilson. another one off the market
 
Wilk is still gonna cost a shitload, and if we invest big money into the DL again I'm gonna be fucking pissed, especially for a guy who could end up another haynesworth
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
Wilk is still gonna cost a shitload, and if we invest big money into the DL again I'm gonna be fucking pissed, especially for a guy who could end up another haynesworth
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this would be the most nonsensical move we've ever made - not only overpaying for a run stuffing nose tackle but then doubling down by putting money in a player not much better than a guy we traded away for swapping 3rd round picks the year before

no way we give wilkerson money that we might have given to timmy jernigan
 
cardinals looking to trade or cut tyrann rumor has it.. dam, why couldnt this happen last yr so we couldve gotten him over jeffro
 
Ugh.. even the players are worse than some of the board members with their desperation in acquiring guys...

Let it go, Jefferson.
 
rossihunter2 said:
Just want to emphasise these 2 sentences...
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Allow me to elaborate if u can’t figure it out. I skimmed enough to read his squabble. What does young players I like have to do with not wanting to sign vets that are slowing down. Especially when he agreed that Dumervil could really fall off the wagon next year. So what was it brought up for?? What is his effectiveness last year having to do with the ravens if he is to old to count on repeating that performance. He is clearly a little irritated I prefer signing younger players with skills looking for opportunity to breakout. And biased toward cap cuts with diminishing skills. Could ask me to elaborate on my opinions and preferences. I prefer players on the cheap with real opportunity to break out and get better with the system the following year. As opppsed to losing a step. I’m not totally opposed to an older edge rusher or WR. However it has to be as a compliment. Not the No.1 player/saviors at his position. Wasting cap money on patchwork players prevents the team from Competing for younger No.1 cornerstone kinda players in free agency as well as resigning its own
 
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Sledge Hammer said:
Dude I’m not reading all that so I skimmed. What are you really talking about?? Who ever compares Neal to Daniels?? Can sign them both dude. Different positions. Neal wouldn’t break the bank. Robinson has more talent than Humph I said. His head in the game I dunno. Who ever said market determined values?? I think Brice will outplay whatever he is paid. And somebody is obviously sore I roast the idea of signing declining cap cuts. Are u implying Dumervils stats say he isn’t declining?? And the player that handled him in 2015 was cardinals tackle. And yes I’m saying Dumervil isn’t as effective as stats imply. He would be a hotter commodity. Once again I’m going out on a limb and saying those numbers don’t match the eye test. And even if it did the ravens need every down players first b4 signing situational rushers. There is no longer a prime Suggs and Ngata to add pieces to. And dude what the hell are u squabbling about?? If u acknowledge he is likely to be useless next year?? It means he is somebody u shouldn’t sign. So y would u care about those crazy effectiveness numbers?? If he is somebody u shouldn’t sign cuz he could completely fall off the diving board. And if u wanna play who likes who to play well. How is Perriman doing?? At least camp has the raw skills to be a good slot of healthy in right situation. As does Robinson. Perriman was a bust the day his name was announced. As is Humph if u try matching him up on an island consistently like the top cornerbacks yes I said it again. What Lafell did to him isn’t jack shit to the deep fryer he is going to get dumped
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With regards to Neal and Daniels, you did. Your exact comment with respect to Neal and Daniels on the previous forum was that you had a line on a source with direct contact with Dom Capers, who supposedly wanted to prioritize Neal because he thought him to be a superior player to Daniels. Neal proceeds to go unsigned and does not see a single snap in an NFL uniform thereafter. I can point to multiple currently-present members who were within earshot of the conversation, figuratively speaking. Dumervil was literally the most productive pass rusher on a snap-to-snap basis. That's not an implication nor a suggestion. That figure largely supports my main contention, that your assertion from 2015 about the declines was flatly wrong. It's a contention to a retroactive notion, meaning that it's meant to focus solely on the time span between then and today. That you're missing the point I've contested since the beginning is a personal problem.

The Arizona game of 2015. An interesting choice; it's also a concerning one considering that Dumervil finished with 2 QB hits and 5 pressures, netting hurries or hits against Jared Veldheer, Bobby Massie, Lyle Sendlein and Mike Iupati. Although Iupati should receive a break considering that he was pulling from the opposite side to double Dumervil with the RB. Dumervil was chipped multiple times by Jermaine Gresham. Dumervil saw Veldheer on a mere 6 snaps, one of them being an inside double, and he came away with multiple pressures on Veldheer, who didn't surrender any to another player. On a sequence of two plays, he beat Massie with the rip, getting his hand on Palmer's releasing arm, and then he walked Veldheer back into Carson Palmer with a three-step speed bullrush on the following play. That's directly from the tape from a performance I remember like it was yesterday considering that I praised him for the job-well-done after the fact. And we can double down based on the numbers given that he was tied for the most pressures of an OLB that entire week with 7. Given this porous example and the ones prior, are we simply picking games out of a hat and hoping that their result is uncontested or unverified? For as many stones as are being thrown about stat usage, there doesn't appear to be enough tape watching to balance out the equation.

The point about market values has to be one of the densest example of unrealized hypocrisy I've seen in recent memory. The notion that Dumervil would have been a hotter commodity if he was as effective as his performance indicates directly means that the latter is disregarded and that his performance is being evaluated based on the amount of interest he received from NFL FOs. It means that we can determine his value based on whether teams are interested in him. That is literally the inner working of the logic in place. That is the direct antitheses to the notion that market values don't determine how well players performed. Robinson has done roughly as well as Perriman is, meaning not well. None of Robinson's abilities have been confirmed via tape to date, and your only attempt to prove otherwise was embarrassingly off-the-mark. How has Cam Robinson fared? How has Ryan Ramczyk, whom you've said would've been at best a 3rd round selection in any other draft? Interesting to mention Brandon LaFell. How's he been after being touted as a potential No.1 or No.2 quality WR? LaFell beats Humphrey for 2 catches and 35 yards in one game and he's in the deep fryer. Robinson gets beat for two TDs and a would-be third in one game and he's shutting down Mike Evans. Where does it end?
 
Sledge Hammer said:
Allow me to elaborate if u can’t figure it out. I skimmed enough to read his squabble. What does young players I like have to do with not wanting to sign vets that are slowing down. Especially when he agreed that Dumervil could really fall off the wagon next year. So what was it brought up for?? What is his effectiveness last year having to do with the ravens if he is to old to count on repeating that performance. He is clearly a little irritated I prefer signing younger players with skills looking for opportunity to breakout. And biased toward cap cuts with diminishing skills. Could ask me to elaborate on my opinions and preferences. I prefer players on the cheap with real opportunity to break out and get better with the system the following year. As opppsed to losing a step. I’m not totally opposed to an older edge rusher or WR. However it has to be as a compliment. Not the No.1 player/saviors at his position. Wasting cap money on patchwork players prevents the team from Competing for younger No.1 cornerstone kinda players in free agency as well as resigning its own
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Could not be missing the point any harder. My initial point was solely about your assertion from years ago. When, on this forum or either of the former ones, have I once said that I am remotely against signing younger players? Don't presume my opinions for me, especially when you're not willing to put in the effort to read my comments, nevermind understanding them properly.
 
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If Dumervil is still so awesome y doesn’t anybody really want’em?? What’s he making?? Let’s see his offers should he get dumped again. Ravens have serious need at edge rusher and dumped him like a chic that gained 30lbs. And I saw the point of your rants. My biased toward older players clearly irritates u. BTW I never said Lafell a no.1 I said no.2 caliber. And he beat Humph so bad or he woulda that Humph tackled’em outa desperation. And dude market valu isn’t tell all but it’s a pretty good indicator of what the league believes you can add.
 
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Sledge Hammer said:
If Dumervil is still so awesome y doesn’t anybody really want’em?? What’s he making?? Let’s see his offers should he get dumped again. Ravens have serious need at edge rusher and dumped him like a chic that gained 30lbs. And I saw the point of your rants. My biased toward older players clearly irritates u. BTW I never said Lafell a no.1 I said no.2 caliber. And he beat Humph so bad or he woulda that Humph tackled’em outa desperation
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You really aren't following what he is saying.

It's not a bias toward older players, it's a bias toward players you like
 
@Truth doesn't have a bias at all, he goes uses facts to back up every post he makes.

btw, I totally remember the Neal and Daniels comment sledge made.
 
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