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The 2021 Offseason Thread

cdp said:
Overall do you think it was smart to trade Wade out of all the CBs we have? Averett's contract is up in one year, we don't know how much Tavon has left in his tank after these injuries, Westry is as unproven as Wade and the other young guys play S/CB hybrid roles.
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Forget the averett contract status lol one year of a cb3 who could be a cb1 on many teams is worth a super bowl run, there’s also the potential for him to take over for Marcus peters if the ravens decide they’d rather spend his contract elsewhere and re-sign averett potentially for less, could be a way for us to go in on the OL a bit more next year maybe? I’d hate it but tough decisions gotta be made when you pay your qb.
 
Adreme said:
I mean its a 5th round pick from this year for one in 2 years and a 7th next year. Not the greatest returns but he was not very good anyway.
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Honestly if you get a 5th and 7th back from a 5th rounder that wasn't likely to make the team you gotta be pretty happy with that. EDC doesnt seem to suffer from the sunk cost fallacy like Ozzie did.
 
Simba said:
I'll take it

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He was a low risk-high reward pick. If he turned back to his 2018-19 year, that wouldve been such a steal. But I cant hate the accumulation of draft picks. Thinking long term team building.. we're going to need all the draft picks we can get once we give the bag to Lamar and Mandrews. Best way to offset top 5 QB money is with quality players on cheap rookie contracts.

Besides.. this bolds well for my draft crush: AR Washington!
 


based on this snippet of a nothing drill lol it would suggest that Cleveland’s not even in the conversation right now for the start and that Ben powers is the starting LG as it stands but is in competition with tyre

sarell is a guard looking at what we saw in preseason 2 and now this

but that’s just me overreacting to a 7 second video of a positional drill
 
rossihunter2 said:


based on this snippet of a nothing drill lol it would suggest that Cleveland’s not even in the conversation right now for the start and that Ben powers is the starting LG as it stands but is in competition with tyre

sarell is a guard looking at what we saw in preseason 2 and now this

but that’s just me overreacting to a 7 second video of a positional drill
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Curious about your thoughts on Sarell. I admit I dont have an eye for Oline, so I don't really watch them when I watch the games. All I know was that he was the top Tackle coming out of HS. Why did they move him inside and how does he look?

Also, is Adrian Ealy a guy that can make the 53 as our swing tackle? Or are we trying to sneak him into our practice squad.
 
cdp said:
Overall do you think it was smart to trade Wade out of all the CBs we have? Averett's contract is up in one year, we don't know how much Tavon has left in his tank after these injuries, Westry is as unproven as Wade and the other young guys play S/CB hybrid roles.
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Shit westry might be worse than wade
 
Davesta said:
Curious about your thoughts on Sarell. I admit I dont have an eye for Oline, so I don't really watch them when I watch the games. All I know was that he was the top Tackle coming out of HS. Why did they move him inside and how does he look?

Also, is Adrian Ealy a guy that can make the 53 as our swing tackle? Or are we trying to sneak him into our practice squad.
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Not directed at me but I want to answer lol

Sarell is an interesting case. Very highly regarded coming out of high school. 5 star and top 5 at his position, and had offers from most of the big schools. From what I've read, he came in and looked every part of that. And then the injuries hit. He had multiple leg injuries including a serious knee injury and it just kind of sapped his athleticism and explosiveness for the rest of his college career. Who knows if it will ever come back fully, but we've seen signs of that athleticism in his short stint here. He's played G mostly here but got some run at T in the first game. Not sure if they think he's a better fit inside or if it's more of "the more you can do" situation. Regardless, he should be on the PS and wouldn't be surprised if he gets an opportunity at some point.

Ealy is a weird one. He's hardly played in preseason despite being the "prize" of the OL signings, above Sarell. He's a developmental guy but not much room to grow athletically. He shows some really good technique at time and really bad at others. No one was talking about him at all until the tape hit from last game, and I'm betting they wish it hadn't to some extent. I would guess they're trying to hide him, which makes sense and also doesn't make sense with how shitty our T depth is. I don't think he's an option for the 53 but they're trying to ensure he makes it to the PS so they can continue to work with him.
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
Forget the averett contract status lol one year of a cb3 who could be a cb1 on many teams is worth a super bowl run, there’s also the potential for him to take over for Marcus peters if the ravens decide they’d rather spend his contract elsewhere and re-sign averett potentially for less, could be a way for us to go in on the OL a bit more next year maybe? I’d hate it but tough decisions gotta be made when you pay your qb.
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man after watching that wired segment, and seeing how he felt about playing in Baltimore. I’d legit be bummed out if we let Peters leave. Although, I’d get it from a financial perspective.
 
All_black_everything said:
man after watching that wired segment, and seeing how he felt about playing in Baltimore. I’d legit be bummed out if we let Peters leave. Although, I’d get it from a financial perspective.
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Same, I posted this before seeing that lol. I would’ve already hated that, but that just seems to be the way this league goes
 
All_black_everything said:
man after watching that wired segment, and seeing how he felt about playing in Baltimore. I’d legit be bummed out if we let Peters leave. Although, I’d get it from a financial perspective.
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That segment made me love Peters even more. It's pretty awesome to hear him say how Baltimore brought back his love for the game and I really do hope we can find a way to keep him on the team.

Also, that may have been one of the best Wired videos that they've ever done. The brotherhood on this team really shined through on the video and it was just really well done.
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
Forget the averett contract status lol one year of a cb3 who could be a cb1 on many teams is worth a super bowl run, there’s also the potential for him to take over for Marcus peters if the ravens decide they’d rather spend his contract elsewhere and re-sign averett potentially for less, could be a way for us to go in on the OL a bit more next year maybe? I’d hate it but tough decisions gotta be made when you pay your qb.
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I would be surprised to see them cut Peters in the offseason. He's still under contract for 2022 (though not cheap) and I think it makes sense to try to extend him for maybe 2-3 more years next offseason. I can't see them just straight cutting him for cap space, because I don't think its that dire. He's probably got 3-4 more years of high quality play left in him before he declines, so I think if you can lock him up for another 2-3 years, that makes sense for both sides. An extension would also likely lower his 2022 cap hit a bit, which is due to be north of $15M.

However, I see no way that both Averett and Tavon are here in 2022. I think its possible both are gone, but I think its more likely one or the other stays. If Tavon has a good year, my guess it would be him.

Averett's market value is a huge wildcard to me right now. If he were on the open market today, I don't think he'd be that expensive. But a good season that involves him getting substantial playing time could change that. Right now I put him in the class of "Ravens player that Ravens fans overvalue compared to the league", but that's mostly conjecture and could change.

The biggest downside I see of Averett over Tavon, even with Averett being clearly more durable and perhaps even the better player at this point, is that you again pretty much force Marlon into the slot. That's not the end of the world, but I think Marlon is clearly your best Corner, and I think he's clearly at his best playing outside. I don't know that I want to waste the prime of his career in the slot.

Even if I bring Marlon, Peters and Averett back, and let Young walk, I'm probably actively looking for a slot corner in the draft, and it'll be one of my priorities.

But then again, in the "way too early" view of 2022, Safety could be a priority, defensive line is going to need to be almost completely overhauled, pass rush is still a ?, and Oline may not be solidified.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
I would be surprised to see them cut Peters in the offseason. He's still under contract for 2022 (though not cheap) and I think it makes sense to try to extend him for maybe 2-3 more years next offseason. I can't see them just straight cutting him for cap space, because I don't think its that dire. He's probably got 3-4 more years of high quality play left in him before he declines, so I think if you can lock him up for another 2-3 years, that makes sense for both sides. An extension would also likely lower his 2022 cap hit a bit, which is due to be north of $15M.

However, I see no way that both Averett and Tavon are here in 2022. I think its possible both are gone, but I think its more likely one or the other stays. If Tavon has a good year, my guess it would be him.

Averett's market value is a huge wildcard to me right now. If he were on the open market today, I don't think he'd be that expensive. But a good season that involves him getting substantial playing time could change that. Right now I put him in the class of "Ravens player that Ravens fans overvalue compared to the league", but that's mostly conjecture and could change.

The biggest downside I see of Averett over Tavon, even with Averett being clearly more durable and perhaps even the better player at this point, is that you again pretty much force Marlon into the slot. That's not the end of the world, but I think Marlon is clearly your best Corner, and I think he's clearly at his best playing outside. I don't know that I want to waste the prime of his career in the slot.

Even if I bring Marlon, Peters and Averett back, and let Young walk, I'm probably actively looking for a slot corner in the draft, and it'll be one of my priorities.

But then again, in the "way too early" view of 2022, Safety could be a priority, defensive line is going to need to be almost completely overhauled, pass rush is still a ?, and Oline may not be solidified.
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Yeah I dont think they move on from peters I was just spitballing really. As for the slot corner, I wouldnt rule out Washington just yet
 
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