allblackraven
Hall of Famer
The only half-excuse I can find for Joe is our totally ridiculous play caller. Better play calling would not fix accuracy issues though.
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allblackraven
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Bama players everywhere...
Doesn't hurt that he's (Drake) has only had 33 carries.
I suppose if we wanted to continue to make conspiracy theories, we could say that part of the reason that the scheme is the way it is is to protect Joe's mechanical issues.
that was my point - im not sure this stat is up to date anyway though having just looked it up (or tried to)
i think collins might be 5th in ypc now - not sure... but in terms of guys with over 100 rushes then he's behind ingram and kareem hunt in ypc i think now - collins's last 2 games wont have helped him statistically in that category
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
If it is, they are going the wrong way about fixing that stuff. I am 100% sure that his bad mechanics are mental in nature, caused by that knee injury. He needs a shrink and a proper QB coach.
Maybe we should purchase Marty a book called “I Moved Your Cheese.”
I’ve been saying we need an actual qb coach since the beginning of the offseason. To think thst Marty used to be his qb coach when Trestman was OC tells me he’s been without a qb coach since Kubiak was OC
and rick dennison was really an OC of the offence while kubiak was a HC of the offence while they were here in 2014
- its also interesting to see that both bills coordinators were recent positional coaches for the ravens but the headcoach didnt work here - leslie frazier as their DC and rick dennison as their OC
Let me know if you, and anyone else going, wants me to meet up at some point. What section will you be in?
Have a great time in Club Level.
If this game is anything like the last game we should win 40-0.
TheCity5
MVP
I don't want to flip flop on this conversation but I can't say I agree here. Maclin and Wallace are good players and starting caliber WR's but Maclin is often injured and we've seen him having to exit the field plenty of times. Wallace has pretty much missed two games, having been forced to exit the Vikings game early and then missing the game against Miami.
I think Maclin-Wallace-Woodhead-Collins is a good group of offensive players to have, but how can you judge Joe based on that merit if they can't be relied upon to stay on the field together. They have played an entire game together just once, if we're going to judge Joe on that then we need to judge him going forward with this unit healthy. I think Watson is a good complementary TE but he's clearly lost a step and Allen is really just a guy who catches pass out of the back field to me. His largest catch and run has went for a whopping 14 yards.
I can't say enough how big of a bust Perriman has been this season. I think we need to hold the FO more accountable, Maclin was a post-June 1st signing, if he decided to go to Buffalo, we would have Perriman and Wallace as our starting WRs. Let's think about that whenever we judge Joe and this offense as a whole. I think it would be nice if they OL can stay healthy as well.
Don't get me wrong, this guy needs to start earning his money and play up to his worth, but the guys around him need to do the same as well. I think very few QBs would honestly do well in this offense. I think we have not given heat to the FO for the lack of depth at the skill position on offensive end this year, they really did not do a good job there.
K-Dog
MVP
Based on jobs and what not I think we will be pulling in not much before game time.
I don't know where we will be just yet. I am going to get up Monday morning and jump on Ticket Exchange.com and try to get a panic deal.
That usually works out well for me.
Sledge Hammer
Pro Bowler
While I agree Flacco needs to be fixed. It is a little of both. Maclin is clearly not the same player he was in 2014. And Wallace is a career one trick pony on the wrong side of 30. While competent receivers, very average receivers. Those dudes are making roughly $5mil per for a reason. Cuz their skills are not what it was. Wallace/Maclin would be good complimentary receivers. If we fronted a pair of in their prime good WRs. Maclin could really make opponents pay as a #3 that could take most No.3 cornerbacks to school with a lot of big catches on 3D and long.
You are so correct Joe needs to commit himself to his job. He has the skills to be a top8 QB with Oline and weapons. Joe is very reliant on his Oline. He can really sling it with accuracy when he can comfortably look over his weapons set and throw. Joe can not warp through his receivers like the top6 QBs. He can't process that fast. But if you allow him time to scan set and throw comfortably he can play like the better QBs. While even the great ones struggle a little when pressured, joe is totally lost!! Joe's secondary problem is he isn't competitive. He never did show that laser focus and spirited drive to succeed. But since his contracts it is even worse!! Coaching needs to have the courage to question him on his desire and will to succeed and win. And challenge him to put the work in with his weapons and coaches with his mechanics and film room. Yeah he has a big family and wants it bigger. But his job that provides rare luxuries for his family comes with prerequisites that it takes to succeed and earn that money. To keep collecting those paychecks he has to play to a standard. And to do that it takes quite an amount of time and commitment.
If his play dives deeper into ocean, he is not beyond reproach. And he is not untouchable. If a young QB comes along that can clearly outplay him. Joe could be benched. If his play costs games he is benchable. We keep hearing this BS Joe can't be cut cuz it costs more against the cap to cut him.And if the relationship with a new coach bottoms out. The decision could be made to cut him and eat the cap hit all at once. If the cap can't swing that then he would or a very expensive backup. Cuz his play for his pay is unacceptable!!
I would prefer the ravens nearly lose out and finish 6-10 or 7-9 and upgrade the offense and "DEMAND" better of Joe. And the offensive coordinator AND his head coach. Than artificially make the playoffs at 7-9 and even 8-8 on that gift wrapped schedule. And actually pretend this team is relevant. And be able to justify Joe's play. As well as the coaching of Marty and Harball. Cuz then the sentiment is well we're a playoff team. And that is BS!! Cuz this team is not on par with the playoff teams in the AFC. And the AFC is weak compared to the NFC. Very Weak!! To make the playoffs will allow Harball to justify the teams problems. And that is BS cuz the probs like Joe's play, Marty and Harballs coaching skills are very unacceptable. As is the drafting with all the early round busts. The ravens haven't hit on a round2,3 pick since 2012!! And artificially making the playoffs makes that acceptable?? I would prefer missing the playoffs and fix joe and the offense, fix the coaching and play calling. And fix the drafting!! And make a serious Super Bowl push next year!!
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More than fair. Same here. Excellent plan, especially amidst the holiday. That's typically my plan as well. This time around, I begun scouting tickets the moment that Deshaun Watson went down given the immediate loss of appeal. I thought I'd give it until the following week to see if potential losses drive them down further. The plan worked well, but I am constantly monitoring prices to see whether the change in strategy was a smart move.
One of the best overall deals that I was able to find on StubHub were seats in the 2nd row of the middle end zone for $39. The nosebleeds are currently at $16.
Plan on thoroughly enjoying the amenities. We made it, homie! From peasantry to pleasantry.
K-Dog
MVP
I think I am gonna set the cap at fifty.
Best bang for the buck wins.
I should be able to get sideline 500's for that.
That's what I wanted to say. The TV guy mentionned it as well. There is no ambition and no surprise in our offense.