‘Wink’ is the New Defensive Coordinator

[rossihunter2]

Plus it is stupid. ( Yeah I said it )
If doing something repeatedly and expecting different results is insanity, then what about practice? Does that mean practice doesn't make perfect?

the whole point of practice is that you try and change things minutely to achieve different results - if you arent catching the ball well then you spend more time practicing catching the ball and changing your technique, if you arent getting open you try and improve your route running by chopping your feet more, trying to perfect a headfake, using film study to change the place where you sit in the zone...

practicing is rarely just repetition otherwise it literally would be pointless...

 

[Oldfaithful]

I mean... There is a possibility that he does come out and prove us all wrong. I hope he does. But I think there's a strong possibility that he's WORSE than Pees...

I have next to no faith going into next season now tbh.

 

[rossihunter2]

I mean... There is a possibility that he does come out and prove us all wrong. I hope he does. But I think there's a strong possibility that he's WORSE than Pees...

I have next to no faith going into next season now tbh.

i said this earlier in the thread:

im not optimistic about this hire changing things but the fact that he was a linebackers coach certainly gives me hope that some of our scheme/personnel issues at linebacker might be improved because of how intimately wink knows their strengths and weaknesses i.e. putting players like CJ back into a position to consistently succeed and maybe getting bowser and williams on the field more in better situations

 

[JO_75]

Yay for Harbaugh's Buddy System! All well, 4 years of no playoffs means we won't have to deal with his buddy system in 2019.

 

[Oldfaithful]

They had champ bailey, Dawkins and Woodyard not too shabby.
The PR department created too much hype saying they'll likely land a top DC with that defense in place

Too bad that you provided next to no context. Dawkins played limited roles in the final two years of his career despite making the pro bowl in his final two years.. Woodyard was a rookie who did next to nothing... And Champ Bailey is only one man.. The defense had lost their best front 7 player for the season with Dumervil going out.. And well... DJ Williams was a solid player... And the rest of the defense was poor personel tbh. I think a bigger reason he was fired was because McDaniels was fired and Martindale was just part of that staff so he was sent out.


To be totally fair.. This defense's roster is far and away more talented than the one he had in Denver.

 

[DeVito52]

@DeVito52 hiring wink is einsteins definition of insanity, using the same methods and expecting different results. This is insanity according to Einstein.

If you guys need me I’ll be inserting myself into an asylum.

 

[Tank]

If you guys need me I’ll be inserting myself into an asylum.

Well, you know Einstein said if you didn’t continue to do the same thing expecting different results you wouldn’t be insane and need to insert yourself into an asylum.

 

[Sami84]

Yay for Harbaugh's Buddy System! All well, 4 years of no playoffs means we won't have to deal with his buddy system in 2019.

i dont think so. Biscuit and harbaugh might as well be married professionally for life.

 

[allblackraven]

Yay for Harbaugh's Buddy System! All well, 4 years of no playoffs means we won't have to deal with his buddy system in 2019.

Are you absolutely sure?

 

[The Raven]

Christ I don't even understand the "definition of insanity" bullshit.

Have you ever worked for someone, bought into most of what they did, but had some gripes? Have you ever had a boss that was a total asshole and you wanted to change everything? Do you have a totally different personality or approach to your coworkers or bosses? Yeah, me too. Why the fuck is football any different? Christ almighty, think, for fuck sake. Don't despair yet, goddamn. This guy is a different person. Not Pees. Give him a chance before panicking.

 

[RavensMania]

Christ I don't even understand the "definition of insanity" bullshit.

Have you ever worked for someone, bought into most of what they did, but had some gripes? Have you ever had a boss that was a total asshole and you wanted to change everything? Do you have a totally different personality or approach to your coworkers or bosses? Yeah, me too. Why the fuck is football any different? Christ almighty, think, for fuck sake. Don't despair yet, goddamn. This guy is a different person. Not Pees. Give him a chance before panicking.

Yes, it is possible he does things completely different than Pees. This along with the progression of our younger players could help tremendously. I’ll supportWink, but if he doesn’t work, something has to change.

 

[Sandtown]

Too bad that you provided next to no context. Dawkins played limited roles in the final two years of his career despite making the pro bowl in his final two years.. Woodyard was a rookie who did next to nothing... And Champ Bailey is only one man.. The defense had lost their best front 7 player for the season with Dumervil going out.. And well... DJ Williams was a solid player... And the rest of the defense was poor personel tbh. I think a bigger reason he was fired was because McDaniels was fired and Martindale was just part of that staff so he was sent out.


To be totally fair.. This defense's roster is far and away more talented than the one he had in Denver.

Also McDaniels was a bit of a control freak when he was The Broncos head coach so it makes me wonder how much of that defense was really Winks.

 

[The Raven]

Yes, it is possible he does things completely different than Pees. This along with the progression of our younger players could help tremendously. I’ll supportWink, but if he doesn’t work, something has to change.

Well, yeah. Of course. But panicked outrage at this point is moronic.

 

[Cville-Raven]

I’ll wait and see before judging. Pagano was a complete unknown when he got promoted from DB coach. Btw looking at the 2010 broncos roster you can see why they were last in the league.

 

[Oldfaithful]

Also McDaniels was a bit of a control freak when he was The Broncos head coach so it makes me wonder how much of that defense was really Winks.

Good point!.. I'm not optimistic but giving him a chance is the right thing to do.. Not like we have a choice. My concerns are partially due to Wink, but there's a possibility he's better than Pees. Also a possibility that he's worse.

I do have a fear that we go all out on defense in the offseason... Again. We have needs on defense but if we spend a lot of money/draft capital on defense again whilst ignoring offense I'm gonna check into the asylum with @DeVito52.

I'm gonna give him a chance... But I'm not gonna hold my breathe

 

[DeVito52]

Good point!.. I'm not optimistic but giving him a chance is the right thing to do.. Not like we have a choice. My concerns are partially due to Wink, but there's a possibility he's better than Pees. Also a possibility that he's worse.

I do have a fear that we go all out on defense in the offseason... Again. We have needs on defense but if we spend a lot of money/draft capital on defense again whilst ignoring offense I'm gonna check into the asylum with @DeVito52.

I'm gonna give him a chance... But I'm not gonna hold my breathe

I call the top bunk

 

[RavensMania]

Good point!.. I'm not optimistic but giving him a chance is the right thing to do.. Not like we have a choice. My concerns are partially due to Wink, but there's a possibility he's better than Pees. Also a possibility that he's worse.

I do have a fear that we go all out on defense in the offseason... Again. We have needs on defense but if we spend a lot of money/draft capital on defense again whilst ignoring offense I'm gonna check into the asylum with @DeVito52.

I'm gonna give him a chance... But I'm not gonna hold my breathe

Especially since we have not allowed him to leave for other teams. Teams can keep positional coaches from moving on for jobs wirh other teams even if they aren’t lateral moves. Since we have blocked teams from taking Wink, it is fair to give him the opportunity to be DC in Baltimore.

 

[Dom McRaven]

Good point!.. I'm not optimistic but giving him a chance is the right thing to do.. Not like we have a choice. My concerns are partially due to Wink, but there's a possibility he's better than Pees. Also a possibility that he's worse.

I do have a fear that we go all out on defense in the offseason... Again. We have needs on defense but if we spend a lot of money/draft capital on defense again whilst ignoring offense I'm gonna check into the asylum with @DeVito52.

I'm gonna give him a chance... But I'm not gonna hold my breathe

I call the top bunk

Make room for one more if this offense gets neglected AGAIN.

 

[Sandtown]

We don't like the hire but honestly we really don't know how good Wink is or will be. The guy is really unknown but The Ravens players love him. Chuck Pagano also was loved as well and turn out great.

 

[allblackraven]

Well, yeah. Of course. But panicked outrage at this point is moronic.

Who is actually panicking?
All I see is people stating their lost trust in what Harbaugh's regime is doing since the last SB win. This has nothing to do with Wink or Pagano or Fangio or Pees but it has everything to do with the HC running the same shit that doesn't produce acceptable results.