Stock thread

[JoeyFlex5]

a place to discuss where some players stocks currently lie, risers and fallers, what's realistic etc.

I'll start by asking where you all think mark Andrews stock currently sits? First round talent for sure, but will he go in the first? I'd be ok with him at 16, I think he probably will go in the first, but being a TE he could be taken very late in the first.

 

[Oldfaithful]

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Don’t say I didn’t warn you

 

[JoeyFlex5]

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Don’t say I didn’t warn you

Andrews you mean?

 

[allblackraven]

Andrews you mean?

generic stock market graph is what i think he meant

 

[allblackraven]

Re Andrews - probably goes day one due to overall weak class, regardless of the fact that TE group looks above average.

 

[RavensMania]

Re Andrews - probably goes day one due to overall weak class, regardless of the fact that TE group looks above average.

I think Goedert has an opportunity to go day 1 also

 

[allblackraven]

I think Goedert has an opportunity to go day 1 also

I think he's a lock day 1 pick in any class.

 

[Jacquouille]

After the Senior Bowl no one will put Goedert outside of round one.

 

[RavensMania]

I think he's a lock day 1 pick in any class.

He’s my favorite TE in this class, but would be happy with either Andrews or Goedert.

 

[Jacquouille]

He’s my favorite TE in this class, but would be happy with either Andrews or Goedert.

Same here. Both would be high impact pick, one being less big play but one of the safest prospect at the position in recent memory.

 

[Oldfaithful]

Ian Thomas with a good combine is gonna be a riser..

Hayden Hurst with a mediocre combine is going to fall to the mid rounds

 

[Jacquouille]

Ian Thomas with a good combine is gonna be a riser..

Hayden Hurst with a mediocre combine is going to fall to the mid rounds

Can't wait to see what Thomas looks like at the Senior Bowl. One of those real hard evaluations that you want to replace into correct context before having an opinion

 

[rossihunter2]

qbs are gonna be who im watching so closely just because i feel like the senior bowl is gonna be critical for so many of them

 

[JoeyFlex5]

Ian Thomas with a good combine is gonna be a riser..

Hayden Hurst with a mediocre combine is going to fall to the mid rounds

Agree on both. Thomas is a freak athlete but there isn't enough film on him, I can't gauge his hands. I've soured on hurst big time. At first I thought he was a freak athlete but honestly he is a carbon copy of Crockett gillmore. He's a big lumbering oaf who's hard to tackle, but then again Crockett had a very high ceiling but couldn't stay healthy and couldn't catch contested balls enough, hurst seems to have better hands

 

[Oldfaithful]

Agree on both. Thomas is a freak athlete but there isn't enough film on him, I can't gauge his hands. I've soured on hurst big time. At first I thought he was a freak athlete but honestly he is a carbon copy of Crockett gillmore. He's a big lumbering oaf who's hard to tackle, but then again Crockett had a very high ceiling but couldn't stay healthy and couldn't catch contested balls enough, hurst seems to have better hands

Hurst is a very good athlete. And is much better in contested situations.. Problem is.. He's 24 going on 25. He's gonna be a very old rookie. Sure. TE's are players who age well, but he's gonna hit his prime in 2-3 years and his prime will last shorter longer than relative. Lack of production is also a problem but South Carolina wasn't great overall in that department.

I like him but he's not perfect. Athleticially he's probably better than even Andrews, who's very good. Not nearly the same kind of polish though

 

[UKRaven]

Andrews I think will be a late 1st, both him and Goedert will go in the 1st round

 

[Sooky]

This is my bold prediction. Roquan Smith falls far. I really do think he is highly overrated and the way he plays is really going to rub scouts the wrong way when watching film. I think he is that early top 10 guy on everyone's mocks that will fall to later than 20.

 

[Somerset Ravens]

This is my bold prediction. Roquan Smith falls far. I really do think he is highly overrated and the way he plays is really going to rub scouts the wrong way when watching film. I think he is that early top 10 guy on everyone's mocks that will fall to later than 20.

Other than not having ideal size what deficiencies do you see in Smith? I saw Georgia play several times last season and Smith was very impressive to me. He reads and reacts very well, making plays from sideline to sideline. What am I missing?

 

[allblackraven]

Other than not having ideal size what deficiencies do you see in Smith? I saw Georgia play several times last season and Smith was very impressive to me. He reads and reacts very well, making plays from sideline to sideline. What am I missing?

Nothing - like Smith does with tackles.

 

[Edgar]

St. Brown will start to get a lot more run.