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Ravensnation5220

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JoeyFlex5 said:
I don't see that, I mean he's not overly clunky, not to the point that I'd worry. I've seen some horrendous play from williams, he ha bad mental lapses and isn't very technically sound
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No bes not but his 2016 film speaks for itself. I wouldnt argue against Brown over Williams. Im not necessarily high on either. I think the top of this tackle class is kinda weak tbh. The only guy i wouldnt be too disapointed in is Mcglinchey
 
Jacquouille

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I wouldn't call Brown a better prospect than Williams. I think he's obviously more appealing with his physical tools and his strength, but Williams looks like a more balanced, technically advanced prospect. TBH it's pretty close between the top3 and each offers a great upgrade to our offense. I'd be happy with either.
 
RavensMania

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Wynns stock is about to shoot through the moon if it hasn’t started to do so already.
 
allblackraven

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rossihunter2 said:
Don’t worry it’s already started - I imagine he ends up being the 2nd interior oline off the board if he’s not there already on many media boards
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I thought he was ranked high to begin with. He is so versatile that teams will be hard pressed to leave him on the board.
 
allblackraven

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rossihunter2 said:
really? i got the impression at times when i checked in just before bowl season that he was initially thought of as a late round 2/round 3 prospect
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Maybe he was, I don't know - haven't followed much of the usual mock suspects. Just going of what I thought watching him play.
 
JoeyFlex5

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rossihunter2 said:
really? i got the impression at times when i checked in just before bowl season that he was initially thought of as a late round 2/round 3 prospect
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I've always seen him in the early to mid second but he's quickly gotten into first round talks where he belongs
 
Jacquouille

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JoeyFlex5 said:
I've always seen him in the early to mid second but he's quickly gotten into first round talks where he belongs
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He's not going first round though. Every year there's some hype around OG prospects and it doesn't amount to anything. Feeney, Elflein were supposed to be borderline first rounders, and Lamp was a top 15 player. Just saying, Wynn is really good, but don't buy too much into his stock. I say he goes around where Dion Dawkins were (although he's a better prospect than Dawkins was).
 
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Jacquouille said:
He's not going first round though. Every year there's some hype around OG prospects and it doesn't amount to anything. Feeney, Elflein were supposed to be borderline first rounders, and Lamp was a top 15 player. Just saying, Wynn is really good, but don't buy too much into his stock. I say he goes around where Dion Dawkins were (although he's a better prospect than Dawkins was).
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Good point, I'm one to buy into the media hype when they start talking about guys I like. I was big on Dawkins so I started buying in, doing the same with wynn lol.
 
Jacquouille

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JoeyFlex5 said:
Good point, I'm one to buy into the media hype when they start talking about guys I like. I was big on Dawkins so I started buying in, doing the same with wynn lol.
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To be precise he deserves to go first round, he's a special prospect imo, teams are just going to let the value of the position influence their decision.
 
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Jacquouille said:
He's not going first round though. Every year there's some hype around OG prospects and it doesn't amount to anything. Feeney, Elflein were supposed to be borderline first rounders, and Lamp was a top 15 player. Just saying, Wynn is really good, but don't buy too much into his stock. I say he goes around where Dion Dawkins were (although he's a better prospect than Dawkins was).
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i think its slightly different this time around - part of the reason feeney, lamp and elflein were all dubbed first rounders was because the overall class was so week at oline that all the media kind of bumped up oline mock projections a bit...

that being said its not unprecedented for someone like wynn to fall - i could still see a situation a la scherff where a team decides they hope he can play tackle for them (but he ends up playing guard) but they draft him like a tackle in a higher spot...

that said id be fine with him falling all the way to our 2nd round pick if you're right
 
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rossihunter2 said:
i think its slightly different this time around - part of the reason feeney, lamp and elflein were all dubbed first rounders was because the overall class was so week at oline that all the media kind of bumped up oline mock projections a bit...

that being said its not unprecedented for someone like wynn to fall - i could still see a situation a la scherff where a team decides they hope he can play tackle for them (but he ends up playing guard) but they draft him like a tackle in a higher spot...

that said id be fine with him falling all the way to our 2nd round pick if you're right
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I get what you're saying, but on the other hand if you think Wynn is a Tackle you're pretty desperate, he's 6'2... (When I say "you" I use it as a general term, not aimed at you rossi)

His body just screams guard and you're drafting him to play that position. What's more, this class has a lot of OT talent to offer, you don't need to experiment some solutions, just draft an OT.
 
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Jacquouille said:
I get what you're saying, but on the other hand if you think Wynn is a Tackle you're pretty desperate, he's 6'2... (When I say "you" I use it as a general term, not aimed at you rossi)

His body just screams guard and you're drafting him to play that position. What's more, this class has a lot of OT talent to offer, you don't need to experiment some solutions, just draft an OT.
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oh i agree completely - i just cant help but think a team will be stupid enough to sell themselves on his versatility and end up lucking into a guard who was worth the spot they took him in
 
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rossihunter2 said:
oh i agree completely - i just cant help but think a team will be stupid enough to sell themselves on his versatility and end up lucking into a guard who was worth the spot they took him in
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GMs or HC who believe it works like that shouldn't have a job. It's literally as hard to find quality OG as it is to find quality OT. If you have a Pro Bowl caliber player at one spot, why the fuck can't you appreciate it?
 
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Jacquouille said:
GMs or HC who believe it works like that shouldn't have a job. It's literally as hard to find quality OG as it is to find quality OT. If you have a Pro Bowl caliber player at one spot, why the fuck can't you appreciate it?
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yeah - and as an organisation we've been lucky enough over the last few years to see how much interior linemen can elevate the tackles outside them - KO and Yanda absolutely made the players around them so much better just by how good they were
 
RaineV1

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Since interior linemen fall every year, it'd be great if we managed to get someone like Wynn, Price, or Hernandez in the second round, while using the first on offensive talent or a top end front 7 guy.
 
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