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The 2022 Offseason Thread
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Grim
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Yeah, he did throw some shade there against Wink. TBH, Wink had some real issues and he got exposed. Great guy, loved the dude, but it seemed like he just failed to adjust as much as anyone. I also agree with the idea that his unit really fell flat and has choked in some big games the past year to now.
As for the improvement of the offense, he isn't wrong--OL & RB improvement is an obvious area because let's be real--we had The Replacements playing RB for us and some questionable play at OL. I also kind of think we seem to recognize the need to improve the OL w/o saying that we like our guys we got. I noticed he made no comment of what we already have, also implying an upgrade is coming.
that's 100% my read on it - basically saying without saying that the injuries at RB (and OL) and the general play level we got from those 2 positions was key to our inability to get explosive plays
definitely going to hit the market for sure - but yeah would suggest he's probably gone
that was a masterclass from Harbs
It was an interesting listen. Offensively, it seems like Harbaugh feels there were 3 issues.
1. Defense. As it's already been mentioned in this thread, the D didn't hold up their end of the bargain this year and put the offense in some pretty tough field position.
2. OL and RB. The explosive plays weren't there in the running game this year and as a result, the whole offense struggled.
3. Execution. He said so many times that players didn't do the right things on some critical plays.
It was nice to get some confirmation that guys have latitude in what they do on offense. We have playmakers and we want them to make plays.
1. Defense. As it's already been mentioned in this thread, the D didn't hold up their end of the bargain this year and put the offense in some pretty tough field position.
2. OL and RB. The explosive plays weren't there in the running game this year and as a result, the whole offense struggled.
3. Execution. He said so many times that players didn't do the right things on some critical plays.
It was nice to get some confirmation that guys have latitude in what they do on offense. We have playmakers and we want them to make plays.
i think the 3rd one is obviously unsurprising and he brought it up a few times but especially when they were talking about answers for cover-0 and spacing in the passing game
the first 2 i think were more revealing - especially given we've got rid of wink - the comment about RBs not being able to get yards after contact i think is the closest ive seen him get to acknowledging that players just werent good or talented enough which is completely understandable given how that position group got wiped out
but biggest takeaway was OL for me
obviously spoke a lot about offence and deferred most questions on defence to Wednesday which makes a lot of sense but i appreciated the detail he gave in his answers when talking about offensive struggles (and came prepared with the key stats he thought indicated why and where we struggled)
explosive plays to create easy chunks and TDs
redzone efficiency where we had too many turnovers or stops
It is always funny and shocking how different pressers are with Harbs in-season and in the offseason - for obvious reasons he's just so much more relaxed and happy to be detailed and offer unsolicited information in the offseason
I agree. I was surprised all season with the patience they showed with the RB group sans Freeman oddly enough. I think he knew they weren't good enough but also to some extent knew no one else was good enough either.
On the injury front as a whole, I felt like Harbaugh did a good job to not directly say that it impacted us heavily and that the replacement players weren't good enough even though we could all read through the lines and know that's what he meant.
OURavensFan
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Definitely
OURavensFan
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Harbaugh said no stone will go unturned with injury issues and that it’s more than bad luck. On Greg Roman, he said he plans on him being back but it’s early….
I remember Harbaugh mentioning something about not being able to make plays. I don't remember the words, but it wasn't clear whether he was talking about offense or defense.
now that is interesting. I've heard several teams don't do squats during the season and a couple of those were the healthiest teams in the league, ie Bills.
Tank
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I think he referred to both, but specifically said that down the stretch the D didn't make the plays to get off the field and secure the wins. Mentioned that "if we just had made one play" we would have won some of those games.
JAAM
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Are you fucking kidding me dude. If we keep Roman over Tee I’ll be fucking livid
I certainly hope we get Tee Martin for atleast one more year. Think he should have an opportunity as OC here.
the only street free agent who really showed anything at all for any team this year was D'onta Foreman - and ironically the titans might have lost that divisional round game against the bengals by leaning on a not fully healthy Henry instead of him - but not sure any other pick-up moved the needle for any other team
even in the presser though harbs was asked if he ever "lost faith" down the stretch - and he said no and rightfully pointed out that we were basically only 2 plays away from making the playoffs (any 2 plays) - but yeah a lot of the individual breakdowns when talking about things that went wrong was just him finding ways to not quite put it on the injuries (by talking about execution and "we've just got to be better" type statements)
JAAM
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What a nightmare. My money is on Harbaugh reaching out to his pal Culley to see if he wants his job back if Tee gets an OC position