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The 2022 Offseason Thread

Sizzle said:
Phillips has time and time again shown that he can't do it. I badly want Cleveland to win the competition. As should everyone else other than those with a personal agenda who want Phillips to win just because he's Tyre Phillips and they need to be proven right.
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Phillips has been far and away the best out of him, Cleveland, and Powers when he's been on the field and it hasn't been particularly close. His problem has been staying on the field and being able to play G and not T.
 
Simba said:
Phillips has been far away the best out of him, Cleveland, and Powers when he's been on the field and it hasn't been particularly close. His problem has been staying on the field and being able to play G and not T.
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Lol, no he hasn't.
 
Sizzle said:
Lol, no he hasn't
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And you're here touting stiff ass Cleveland that for some reason can't finish a block? Enough said.

Phillips has all of the traits. Can complain about him not being on the field as much as you want and I'll agree, but you cannot sit here and tell me Cleveland is better because that's patently false.
 
Simba said:
And you're here touting stiff ass Cleveland that for some reason can't finish a block? Enough said.

Phillips has all of the traits. Can complain about him not being on the field as much as you want and I'll agree, but you cannot sit here and tell me Cleveland is better because that's patently false.
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According to PFF, Cleveland and Powers both are better. Cleveland by 2 points, Powers by 12
 
Sizzle said:
According to PFF, Cleveland and Powers both are better. Cleveland by 2 points, Powers by 12
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well he really only played 1 game plus 4 snaps at left guard. The rest was at tackle. Really not a fair assessment. I never understood the grade that Powers received from PFF, but I really don't like the grading on OL....actually multiple positions for that matter.

Both should be better this season with Linderbaum playing center and Stanley hopefully playing LT.
 
Sizzle said:
According to PFF, Cleveland and Powers both are better. Cleveland by 2 points, Powers by 12
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ah yes pff - grading less than 1 game of LG play from tyre phillips and notorious for not understanding blocking assignments (and now apparently also being paid off for 50k a pop by actual players to boost their grades)

tyre has been the best G out of him, cleveland and powers - he's also notably won the offseason G competition 2 years in a row including last year vs the same competition

he sucks at tackle for sure - but we've got 5 guys now on the roster who will play tackle before he does

the ceiling on phillips is way higher than on the other 2

cleveland needs to show me so much to even be in the conversation with phillips and powers - yes he's massive and powerful with long arms and tested well in the pre-draft process but he's stiff, doesn't move laterally well and doesn't finish blocks and after doing ok rotating with powers initially after tyre went down, he actively lost reps the further we got through the year and when playing at the end of the year (when he should have been better) he got worse

cleveland is one of the most frustrating draft picks we've had in recent times - when we drafted him, my reaction was akin to when we drafted chris wormley and miles boykin which was basically... huh? that high? had 5th round grades on all of them and we drafted them all in the 3rd
 
i think it's interesting the way tee martin talked about james proche yesterday (only just getting around to watching his presser)

when asked about the improvements proche can make to this game to get more opportunities he talked about just continuing to take advantage of the opportunities that come his way (pointed at the broncos and bengals games last year as examples) - in comparison to talking about wallace and duvernay and on what improvements they look for

and yet idk he didnt seem particularly enthused about proche

maybe this is just me over-reading things
 
rossihunter2 said:
i think it's interesting the way tee martin talked about james proche yesterday (only just getting around to watching his presser)

when asked about the improvements proche can make to this game to get more opportunities he talked about just continuing to take advantage of the opportunities that come his way (pointed at the broncos and bengals games last year as examples) - in comparison to talking about wallace and duvernay and on what improvements they look for

and yet idk he didnt seem particularly enthused about proche

maybe this is just me over-reading things
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I think you're just over-reading things because Tee specifically said that Proche made some "big grabs on third downs" in both of those games, as a compliment. Also, it's only an OTA presser in June so I wouldn't start going crazy over it lol
 
rossihunter2 said:
what does he do that makes you like him at guard?
because what ive seen both at georgia and in the limited snaps so far in the nfl, im not really a fan...
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You wouldn't be a fan of anyone other than Phillips at that spot. You're completely sold on him and anyone else sucks
 
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