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The 1st half, The Refs and The Collapse

My issue with this is Allen dropped back 47 times(fact check? I just went off passing attempts and non designed runs). So to play 90% or the snaps but generate pressure on roughly 3% of those drop backs is not ideal. Maybe that's a bad way to analyze it, I'm not the stats guru, but he needs to be better in year two.

I get the value in pressures, but at some point we need to turn them in to sacks.
They only should only count the pressures if it forces the qb to throw an incomplete lol.. i used to hate yannick and his “ he pressures the qbs alot” fans..
 


Some interesting things from the snap counts:
1. Hamilton didn't play much on defense. Only 17 snaps. Guessing the Ravens played more Nickel than Dime this week, since Peters/Marlon/Stephens were nearly every down players.
2. Pierre-Paul played an absolute ton. 86% of defensive snaps in the first week. Oweh played 91% too. Gotta hope we find a better rotation there because I don't think many teams play OLB groups at that level, and you've got no shot of getting late-game pass rush with those numbers.
3. Travis Jones with only 16 snaps also
4. Nick Boyle didn't play a single offensive snap


This is a huge problem to me. Everyone is clamoring about the coaches this and the coaches that.

However it is not normal to play that much.

For example, the Bucs top OLB played 50% and 58% of total snaps.

Matt Judon played 57% of snaps his last game.
 
This is a huge problem to me. Everyone is clamoring about the coaches this and the coaches that.

However it is not normal to play that much.

For example, the Bucs top OLB played 50% and 58% of total snaps.

Matt Judon played 57% of snaps his last game.
I agree. Though, again, lack of options is driving that. No Houston, no Ojabo, no Bowser. You get Houston back you can at least play more of a 3 man rotation, so maybe each is playing 2/3 of snaps instead of like 80-90%.

If healthy, this should dramatically improve over time. But in short term, yes, its an issue.
 
One thing we have excelled at in short yardage situations is the shovel pass dump offs the chiefs and Steelers have ran for years. I will give credit where due there
 
They only should only count the pressures if it forces the qb to throw an incomplete lol.. i used to hate yannick and his “ he pressures the qbs alot” fans..
yea for sure. I think pressures are nice but also a highly overrated stat. Feels like this team has been talking about pressures for years , but at some point you have to turn those into consistent sacks
 
Let me say though, I'm an EXTREMELY impressed with his long term prospects

oh he's viable and while we probably would have liked not to see him playing yet, he's gonna be much further along in his development because of the last 2 week

he's already a net positive in the run game and he's shown the traits (inconsistently) to get out there and be a good pass protector - he's not ready yet and got a ton of help from ricard yesterday which obviously reduced the ability of the bills to get sacks (and also lamar escaped out of a couple) but if we're thinking developmentally, it's hard not to be absolutely thrilled with him so far
 
They only should only count the pressures if it forces the qb to throw an incomplete lol.. i used to hate yannick and his “ he pressures the qbs alot” fans..

tbf he didnt get many pressures here either

judon was the one who got a ton of pressures but didnt get a ton of finishes
 
oh he's viable and while we probably would have liked not to see him playing yet, he's gonna be much further along in his development because of the last 2 week

he's already a net positive in the run game and he's shown the traits (inconsistently) to get out there and be a good pass protector - he's not ready yet and got a ton of help from ricard yesterday which obviously reduced the ability of the bills to get sacks (and also lamar escaped out of a couple) but if we're thinking developmentally, it's hard not to be absolutely thrilled with him so far
Well said
 
Look at this quote from Von Miller:

Some of the tendencies that we had maybe thought of throughout the week, they were a little bit different, so we kind of understood, just throughout the game, that if they were in certain formations, if they were in certain personnel groups, this is what they were doing. Early on in the game, we were still trying to figure it out, but as we got through the game, and you started to see plays repeat itself, we were able to kind of settle down and see the same plays over and over again, and, like I said, make the plays when we had to.

Seems to me this is the reason we come out guns blazing then stall in the second half. Coming from the horses mouth the same plays are repeated over and over so the opposing team adjusts and stops the offense.
 
This is a huge problem to me. Everyone is clamoring about the coaches this and the coaches that.

However it is not normal to play that much.

For example, the Bucs top OLB played 50% and 58% of total snaps.

Matt Judon played 57% of snaps his last game.

oweh's young and athletic and good in both phases - but when we get up above 80-85% the level of difficulty is going to increase massively

bowser was able to do that in some games last year but he's also got a lot of off-ball/coverage responsibilities which are a little different energy-wise to some of the trench-work

it's not going to change for oweh at all until we get houston and bowser back - if we can just get him back down below 80% i think we're gonna be in the sweet spot
 
Look at this quote from Von Miller:

Some of the tendencies that we had maybe thought of throughout the week, they were a little bit different, so we kind of understood, just throughout the game, that if they were in certain formations, if they were in certain personnel groups, this is what they were doing. Early on in the game, we were still trying to figure it out, but as we got through the game, and you started to see plays repeat itself, we were able to kind of settle down and see the same plays over and over again, and, like I said, make the plays when we had to.

Seems to me this is the reason we come out guns blazing then stall in the second half. Coming from the horses mouth the same plays are repeated over and over so the opposing team adjusts and stops the offense.

i mean it's not like these plays arent on tape though...
we didnt do anything dramatically different to what we've done in previous weeks
 
i mean it's not like these plays arent on tape though...
we didnt do anything dramatically different to what we've done in previous weeks
I mean yeah they watch the tape for these reason duh. But this is more telling on Gro isn't the knock on him that he doesn't adjust. If you keep trying the same plays and they stop you then where's your adjustment?
 
oweh's young and athletic and good in both phases - but when we get up above 80-85% the level of difficulty is going to increase massively

bowser was able to do that in some games last year but he's also got a lot of off-ball/coverage responsibilities which are a little different energy-wise to some of the trench-work

it's not going to change for oweh at all until we get houston and bowser back - if we can just get him back down below 80% i think we're gonna be in the sweet spot
Hopefully he stays healthy until they come back.
 
I mean yeah they watch the tape for these reason duh. But this is more telling on Gro isn't the knock on him that he doesn't adjust. If you keep trying the same plays and they stop you then where's your adjustment?

i guess idk that i agree that the bills really stopped us...
i wish we'd run the ball a little in the 2nd half when the conditions got worse - the bills used allen in the running game in key spots and i think the ravens could have done more with lamar

but also we had a poor 2nd half in terms of execution - there were plays there and available that would have been huge daggers to the bills and we just didnt execute - bateman's slant that he dropped and might have housed, hill's big run where his hamstring went was gonna be a huge play, lamar missing duvernay wide open in the endzone on that final play on offence - that's 3 potential massive plays that turn into maybe TDs that became 0 points - idk what adjustment the bills made but those plays still happened

if he's talking about personnel based tells then sure - but they should have been able to work a bunch of that stuff out before the game even started

it's not like other teams don't repeat plays a lot lol
 
Look at this quote from Von Miller:

Some of the tendencies that we had maybe thought of throughout the week, they were a little bit different, so we kind of understood, just throughout the game, that if they were in certain formations, if they were in certain personnel groups, this is what they were doing. Early on in the game, we were still trying to figure it out, but as we got through the game, and you started to see plays repeat itself, we were able to kind of settle down and see the same plays over and over again, and, like I said, make the plays when we had to.

Seems to me this is the reason we come out guns blazing then stall in the second half. Coming from the horses mouth the same plays are repeated over and over so the opposing team adjusts and stops the offense.
Oh god, here comes the fire Roman rally. It also sucks just like last year we’re all debating another heartbreaking 4th down decision. Please just beat the Bengals, we’ll be in good shape if we can do that
 
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