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Lamar Jackson

Thezone27 said:
it's OK to be in denial, buddy
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What the hell am I in denial about? I asked for specific examples and all you replied was “Denver”

Edit - I’ll be nice
 
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JAAM said:
Oh lord. There’s a reason a well respected Mod on here called you an idiot in the past
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Thezone27 said:
Edgar Allen, just came out with a new video entitled, "Lamar Jackson's last stanza 2022" and boy is it depressing and desultory. It is about last 10 plays that Jackson played intros season: the first 10 plays vs the Broncos in our *scintillating* 10-9 win. No one comes out looking good here: not Roman, not Harbaugh, not Jackson, not the OL, not Hill or Gus. Duvernay is the talisman here: we see him repeatedly going in motion and then flaring out to the left sideline and going down the field, wide open. Ball never comes to him, Broncos' defenders are ignoring him, and Jackson doesn't even look towards him-until the last play where Jackson gets hurt when he does look at Duv only to have Duv's back turned to Lamar so he isn't in position to receive the ball.

It isn't so much the play design, which actually is okay, but the play calling, overall communication and the execution: this is an offense that has no mojo, no spirit, no clue, just going through the motions with nobody bought into what they need to do. Jackson runs when he shouldn't and he gets sacked twice when he shouldn't and at this point in the season he's not helping. The last play where he injures his knee shouldn't have happened at all as he should have thrown the ball for a decent completion and not get touched at all. God it is awful. Boller-esque bad.

I bring it up in light of Sean Payton yesterday saying that Russell Wilson basically can't have his entourage in the locker room with him and that he has to use the team's trainers etc. Whatever happens to the Ravens' offense next year similar wood needs to be laid down on the offense even if Lamar is back. Particularly if Lamar is back as the culture is bad.

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UPennChem said:
Let me just be clear, I'm not saying he's bad. He's obviously good, but for 2 years now and a lot at times last year, he was being championed as the best QB in the league. Which frankly, he's not even close to.

Allen is like Lamar but pretty much worse in almost every category. Not by a ton, but a couple percent worse in a few categories adds up. I think the biggest category that separates them are decision making and in the RZ especially.

And yeah he's not had all world rosters, but neither has Mahomes and see what he's done. The Bills rosters have been lauded as top 5 in thr league for the last few years.
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Yeah, no. lol
 
Thezone27 said:
Ok, want me to post it again?
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Willbacker said:
If it's franchize tag he'll be signing before the preseason. The look will be bad if he sits it out.
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I don’t think it gets that far. I think he finds the deal he’s looking for somewhere else, or he signs an extension here. There is no way he is going to play for less than Daniel Jones this season. He’d be a fool to do that. And I doubt he wants to sit out the year and lose all $$$. It’s really up to him to decide whether he wants it all, or he’s willing to settle for something less, and he needs to figure it out soon.

Any agents out there looking for work? Lol
 
redrum52 said:
As a man who appreciates petty... id love this move. Trade for him. Sign him for whatever he wants as a big f you to the league.
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no, just steal him off the non-exclusive, give him a 8 year 800m contract fully gtd, and screw any other good players
 
UPennChem said:
You can't argue with some of that though lol.

It's a fact that the media tried to make him QB1 for 2 years now. That's not my opinion.

Secondarily, Lamar's overall and especially RZ decision making is far better than Allen's.

If you wanna disagree with rest you can but both of those things are facts.
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OK. What metrics do you use to measure decision making/RZ decision making?
 
Tank said:
OK. What metrics do you use to measure decision making/RZ decision making?
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So here's a link to to some stats. I'll give you one and then qualify it to be fair.

Josh Allen threw more RZ interceptions last year than any QB has in any year over the entire course of QB play since he's been in the league.

That being said, that was by far his worst year and had one year that was completely clean of them.

I watched a lot of Bills games last year and he was really bad in the RZ. Had multiple dropped interceptions and fumbles that he got away with.

So there's definitely some recency bias here. That being said, the only thing I want to say confidently is that it's obvious he's not in contention for best QB in the league.

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