Lamar Jackson

[Simba]

probably the first mutterings that come from somewhere i believe - and if this is true (and josina's normally very reliable with ravens stuff) then that would suggest that the ravens have finally decided to leak some stuff)

feels like we're getting close to line in the sand type of situation here for 2022 which makes sense given we're coming up on lamar's deadline

think josina's next tweet about the heavy install practice on wednesday would maybe indicate that could be our hard deadline for 2022

only confusing thing for me is when she says "an improved offer is out" does she mean that they've made an improved offer or that they won't make an improved offer???

I believe she's saying that the Ravens have made a better offer.

But yeah, this is straight up a Ravens FO leak here. That's why I think it's funny when people get mad at players for negotiating on social media. Every single team does as well, albeit indirectly. This is info they wanted out there. Deadline is fast approaching and they're trying to make something happen.

 

[gtalk12]

LOL at First Take pondering whether Lamar should hold out during the regular season without a new contract.

I think if a deal isn't done by tomorrow, that's it for trying to get him signed this season.

He doesn't strike me as the type to hold out. honestly nothing up to this point has really been off brand except an ill advised reply on twitter

 

[gtalk12]

I am trying to remember how the Flacco negotiations went down before the superbowl run.

We know it backfired because he was never really able to "carry" a team and only seemed to get out of bed for the playoffs.

 

[JoeyFlex5]

Only one way to handle it, Lamar either goes and wins a super bowl and writes his own checks for the rest of his life, or he doesn’t and he takes the tag, gets one more shot at it, and if he fails again then he’s gotta take a L on his long term deal.

I love playing this game with Lamar because I’m not gonna doubt his drive to get what he wants

 

[rossihunter2]

I believe she's saying that the Ravens have made a better offer.

But yeah, this is straight up a Ravens FO leak here. That's why I think it's funny when people get mad at players for negotiating on social media. Every single team does as well, albeit indirectly. This is info they wanted out there. Deadline is fast approaching and they're trying to make something happen.

this deal has been notably tight-lipped on both sides (how both sides have always wanted to operate) - for stuff to finally come out means 100% this deadline is spurring some acceleration and action

hopefully it gets done and then we dont have to worry about this anymore lol

 

[Tank]

More Lamar talk on SC, more of the same according to the “insiders”. Watson is the baseline and Lamar wants more. That number will shift next year based on the cap going up.

There might be another team as dumb as Cleveland out there, not sure.

It's interesting to see the viewpoints of who holds the upper hand. Things said like "Lamar's deadline" and people claiming he wants more than Watson seem very unrealistic.

"Right player, right price" has always been the Ravens mantra, and reality is they aren't going to be forced into a contract they don't feel holds the proper value for the team.

 

[Tank]

Only one way to handle it, Lamar either goes and wins a super bowl and writes his own checks for the rest of his life, or he doesn’t and he takes the tag, gets one more shot at it, and if he fails again then he’s gotta take a L on his long term deal.

I love playing this game with Lamar because I’m not gonna doubt his drive to get what he wants

Another winner right here!

 

[BoredMarine13]

saw clickbait that showed Lamar agreed to terms on 7 yr 350m deal, but saw pretty quickly that it wasn't true.

It’s all click bait , even from the “professionals”. I Get the sense the Ravens frustration is growing

 

[BoredMarine13]

He doesn't strike me as the type to hold out. honestly nothing up to this point has really been off brand except an ill advised reply on twitter

It was an off the wall suggestion, but even Foxworth was saying how dumb that would be and it’s in his best interest to play.

 

[UPennChem]

I was saying this a little while ago. I'm pretty sure Lamar wants basically the Watson deal and Bisciotti has given the red flag on a fully guaranteed deal. Seems pretty cut and dry and this point.

 

[BoredMarine13]

I believe she's saying that the Ravens have made a better offer.

But yeah, this is straight up a Ravens FO leak here. That's why I think it's funny when people get mad at players for negotiating on social media. Every single team does as well, albeit indirectly. This is info they wanted out there. Deadline is fast approaching and they're trying to make something happen.

I think they get upset when Lamar does childish things as in like post of him in another teams uniform. That would be similar to the Raven front office leaking they are really into the 2023 QB class.

I honestly think Lamar’s social media shenanigans are kinda funny. Don’t think there’s anything malicious to it, just him being his goofy emotional self .

 

[Simba]

I was saying this a little while ago. I'm pretty sure Lamar wants basically the Watson deal and Bisciotti has given the red flag on a fully guaranteed deal. Seems pretty cut and dry and this point.

I don’t think it’s just Bisciotti. It’s the Ravens FO and the whole league minus the Browns that don’t want to sign off on that.

 

[UPennChem]

I don’t think it’s just Bisciotti. It’s the Ravens FO and the whole league minus the Browns that don’t want to sign off on that.

I don't doubt that at all. But Bisciotti has literally publicly stated he thinks that's crazy. So even if Eric did want to do that, it wouldn't get past Steve.

 

[rossihunter2]

I don't doubt that at all. But Bisciotti has literally publicly stated he thinks that's crazy. So even if Eric did want to do that, it wouldn't get past Steve.

i think if EDC decided there was a competitive advantage to doing that sort of deal then Steve isnt going to get in the way of that

he has always said that if he didnt trust the decision-makers in place and overruled them then he might as well fire them right then and there and bring in people he does trust

this will be the front office's and EDC's decision - if it isnt, i think you'll find them looking for jobs elsewhere in quick time

 

[RavensMania]

i think if EDC decided there was a competitive advantage to doing that sort of deal then Steve isnt going to get in the way of that

he has always said that if he didnt trust the decision-makers in place and overruled them then he might as well fire them right then and there and bring in people he does trust

this will be the front office's and EDC's decision - if it isnt, i think you'll find them looking for jobs elsewhere in quick time

I think it would be worse losing Lamar than giving him a 250m fully guaranteed contract (5 yrs), but that's my opinion.

 

[rossihunter2]

I think it would be worse losing Lamar than giving him a 250m fully guaranteed contract (5 yrs), but that's my opinion.

and i think EDC would probably make that same determination too if it comes to that
i really dont think that's what lamar's asking for though

 

[RavensMania]

and i think EDC would probably make that same determination too if it comes to that
i really dont think that's what lamar's asking for though

I don't think he is either. I just feel that is the media blowing it out of proportion, like they always do.

 

[Simba]

I don't doubt that at all. But Bisciotti has literally publicly stated he thinks that's crazy. So even if Eric did want to do that, it wouldn't get past Steve.

As Rossi said, Bisciotti isn’t jumping in and vetoing something that his guys agree to. That would go against the entire working process he’s worked so hard to build in his tenure as owner. I’m sure he doesn’t want to but he’s making no decisions in this matter on his own accord.

 

[allblackraven]

and i think EDC would probably make that same determination too if it comes to that
i really dont think that's what lamar's asking for though

As Rossi said, Bisciotti isn’t jumping in and vetoing something that his guys agree to. That would go against the entire working process he’s worked so hard to build in his tenure as owner. I’m sure he doesn’t want to but he’s making no decisions in this matter on his own accord.

I think you are being naive on both counts - the level of control SB is asserting on big money items like this one and Lamar's asking price.

SB and Lamar are fully entitled to do exactly what they are doing, question is how close can they get and sign the paper.

 

[BoredMarine13]

As Rossi said, Bisciotti isn’t jumping in and vetoing something that his guys agree to. That would go against the entire working process he’s worked so hard to build in his tenure as owner. I’m sure he doesn’t want to but he’s making no decisions in this matter on his own accord.

Why would you think that? He can and Im sure certainly has put himself inbetween DeCosta/Ozzie spending money

I think you are being naive on both counts - the level of control SB is asserting on big money items like this one and Lamar's asking price.

SB and Lamar are fully entitled to do exactly what they are doing, question is how close can they get and sign the paper.

Absolutely spot on. There’s obviously a lot of trust between Steve and the folks he hires but at the end of the day he is the organizational leader. He can and Im sure certainly has put himself inbetween DeCosta/Ozzie spending money