Next Up: Vs. Broncos

[cdp]

I don't think there's anything wrong with a 40-60 split between Allen and Collins. Allen is a damn good receiving back who can also pass block very well. He's also the ideal guy in goal line situations and he takes much better care of the Football then Collins. I really don't even see anything wrong with last weeks split but the team should definitely heavily utilize both. They're a really good duo who are being short handed due to poor run blocking from the OL.

I'm with you. Allen can basically line-up everywhere like woodhead and he recognizes blitzes fast. But nowhere near as athletic as Collins. What I would like to see is Marty bringing back the pony backfield. It was quite successful last season.

 

[Grim]

We must win this game or the next game. Can’t go the first quarter less than .500. I see we brought Albert back so that’s cool we needed him without Mosley and maybe we did it because of ST as well. I don’t feel like we’ve been as good there this year

 

[Sami84]

Make no mistake our injury bug is here and it's doing well. The only saving grace is that there's no season ending ones but the problem is that this is the NFL not the NBA not MLB and Not any other sport in the world.. being out for 4-6 games is like being out for 30 NBA games and 15 soccer games. It's a big deal. Jimmy smith is an idiot and frankly, if the eagles are doing crap by week 6 i'd be tempted to trade for darby, just to make us better. Also our FO are dumb for waiting on willie henrys hernia. This should have been done 1st week of august.

Jimmy, Marlon, Darby

 

[rossihunter2]

I'm with you. Allen can basically line-up everywhere like woodhead and he recognizes blitzes fast. But nowhere near as athletic as Collins. What I would like to see is Marty bringing back the pony backfield. It was quite successful last season.

allen is nothing like danny woodhead - allen is not a route runner and he's not anywhere near as accomplished in blitz pickup and pass blocking in general as woodhead was

 

[Militant X 1]

No that still wasn’t good enough for him

Actually it was! Lol!

I had more confidence in that team than these post Super Bowl Ravens squads now. That's for sure! That SB Ravens squad had 2.....4 game win stetches in that season I believe? And think that they only lost 4 road games as well? Then, they played solid football throughout the playoffs and even Joe Flacco (who's the least of my favorite Ravens) was incredible with no INT's during that stretch to reach and win the Super Bowl. So to me, for fans to keep trying to compare these Ravens teams with that Super Bowl 47 team as validation that they may start off rocky and then all of a sudden catch fire is quite idiotic and assanine.

Sure, we "try" to learn from the past but the reality is that the caliber of the rosters are completely different! That SB team had the likes of cats like: Flacco, Torrey Smith, Anquan Boldin, Jacoby Jones, Dennis Pitta, Matt Birk, Yanda, Ray Rice, Ray Lewis, Sugss, Ngata, Ed Reed, Webb, Jimmy Smith, Bernard "Patriots Killer" Pollard, Ellerbe, Upshaw and Tucker to name a few. Not perfect by any means but they were ballers! That team (including Flacco) will FOREVER hold a special place in my heart due to the efforts that those boys played with in honor of themselves, Art Modell and Ray Lewis' "Last Ride!"

They raised the bar in "my" expectation for "my" team that I make no apologies about having but unfortunately, that expectation (in their game play) has not be reached since the departure of most of those players from Baltimore. Back then, regardless of their opponents, (because of how they played) I was able to confidently say; "My Ravens got this!" Now? Man please! Lol! Due to their inconsistencies, I'm damn near suprised when they pull off a win. So, let's see what happens when the Broncos come to town.

GO RAVENS!!

 

[RavensMania]

Now THAT I can get with! But here's the better question; "Why is the depth behind Mosley so inadequate?" Who's fault is that?

no team has great depth at every position, but Kenny Young could be a good one. young and mosley could be a very good tandem.

 

[Militant X 1]

no team has great depth at every position, but Kenny Young could be a good one. young and mosley could be a very good tandem.

I agree! But what happened to the "next man up"mentality? Will he be CJ? No! But, he should be a cat that says within himself; "I want CJ's job! So, I'm going to ball out at practice and study my playbook to take it from him or to be ready to fill in for him if he goes down!" Just a thought.

Young could be very good! I had friends who saw him ball on Thursday night ask me about him cause they liked what they saw in and from him.

 

[Sami84]

Damn..just watched the game again and if Im denver the game plan is simple. PIck on Peanut. He got nowhere near anyone on any play. One of the worst ILBs performences i've seen. It might as well have been me covering.

 

[Grim]

Damn..just watched the game again and if Im denver the game plan is simple. PIck on Peanut. He got nowhere near anyone on any play. One of the worst ILBs performences i've seen. It might as well have been me covering.

I think we should just do more dime packages to mitigate the loss and add more beef on the DL. Maybe have Jefferson play in a hybrid type of role for the time being. I haven’t been all that impressed with him since he came so maybe that’ll do something for him who knows

 

[Sami84]

people might not think this but deshon elliot could have been a player for us this year. Jefferson really is nothing more than a C+ B- SS.

 

[rossihunter2]

people might not think this but deshon elliot could have been a player for us this year. Jefferson really is nothing more than a C+ B- SS.

Jefferson is good at what jefferson does well - but we still leave him single high too often - if im honest i think chuck clark is going to be on the field a lot more often even than he is already (but part of me worries it'll be for weddle who could at any point fall off a cliff)

 

[Tank]

Actually it was! Lol!

I had more confidence in that team than these post Super Bowl Ravens squads now. That's for sure! That SB Ravens squad had 2.....4 game win stetches in that season I believe? And think that they only lost 4 road games as well? Then, they played solid football throughout the playoffs and even Joe Flacco (who's the least of my favorite Ravens) was incredible with no INT's during that stretch to reach and win the Super Bowl. So to me, for fans to keep trying to compare these Ravens teams with that Super Bowl 47 team as validation that they may start off rocky and then all of a sudden catch fire is quite idiotic and assanine.

Sure, we "try" to learn from the past but the reality is that the caliber of the rosters are completely different! That SB team had the likes of cats like: Flacco, Torrey Smith, Anquan Boldin, Jacoby Jones, Dennis Pitta, Matt Birk, Yanda, Ray Rice, Ray Lewis, Sugss, Ngata, Ed Reed, Webb, Jimmy Smith, Bernard "Patriots Killer" Pollard, Ellerbe, Upshaw and Tucker to name a few. Not perfect by any means but they were ballers! That team (including Flacco) will FOREVER hold a special place in my heart due to the efforts that those boys played with in honor of themselves, Art Modell and Ray Lewis' "Last Ride!"

They raised the bar in "my" expectation for "my" team that I make no apologies about having but unfortunately, that expectation (in their game play) has not be reached since the departure of most of those players from Baltimore. Back then, regardless of their opponents, (because of how they played) I was able to confidently say; "My Ravens got this!" Now? Man please! Lol! Due to their inconsistencies, I'm damn near suprised when they pull off a win. So, let's see what happens when the Broncos come to town.

GO RAVENS!!

For me O line play made the difference during that run. The season looked like it could be wasted, they lost 4 of 5 down the stretch, then McKinnie decided to come out of hibernation and energized the squad.

 

[Grim]

people might not think this but deshon elliot could have been a player for us this year. Jefferson really is nothing more than a C+ B- SS.

Jefferson is good at what jefferson does well - but we still leave him single high too often - if im honest i think chuck clark is going to be on the field a lot more often even than he is already (but part of me worries it'll be for weddle who could at any point fall off a cliff)

I agree that Chuck Clark is my guy right now and I hope he is the messiah for this team to take us from the dark ages of safety play. Not that Weddle is bad but he’s getting up there and you have no idea how long he can continue to do this. He makes plays based on instincts not speed. Elliot could be that guy for us at SS but I’m not sure if he’s the guy to replace Weddle as much as he will replace Tony

 

[DeVito52]

I agree that Chuck Clark is my guy right now and I hope he is the messiah for this team to take us from the dark ages of safety play. Not that Weddle is bad but he’s getting up there and you have no idea how long he can continue to do this. He makes plays based on instincts not speed. Elliot could be that guy for us at SS but I’m not sure if he’s the guy to replace Weddle as much as he will replace Tony

Ideally there would be no replacing Tony anytime soon because he’s still young and supposed to be in his prime. We just need to use him right. He’s not a deep safety.

 

[rossihunter2]

I agree that Chuck Clark is my guy right now and I hope he is the messiah for this team to take us from the dark ages of safety play. Not that Weddle is bad but he’s getting up there and you have no idea how long he can continue to do this. He makes plays based on instincts not speed. Elliot could be that guy for us at SS but I’m not sure if he’s the guy to replace Weddle as much as he will replace Tony

Both elliott and clark have ironically shown lots of athletic progress and both seem to be film junky types - both have shown some promise in centre-fielding as the single high so far in the short careers - elliott in particular looked completely different to the player we saw in college - he looks so much rangier and his ability to find himself around the ball consistently didnt leave him when he left college - its a real shame he got injured because i feel fairly confident hed have been active on gamedays

 

[TheCity5]

allen is an ok receiving back - he's sure handed and gets what he gets but he's not a threat out of the backfield and offers nothing really split wide or out of the slot - he's gonna get what's thrown to him and not much more - 7 catches is nice vs the bengals but 5 catches for 36 yards is not particularly explosive - the defence will allow that all day...

collins had 3 receptions for 55 yards...

he needs more touches

allen is an ideal 2nd down back - he's a threat to catch or run the ball inside and take exactly what the defence will give him and certainly he's decent in short yardage and has a knack for running down the clock late in games

I think Allen has that ability to run a more variety of routes and can do the things you kind of expect of a WR, exp: catching throws on the run, finding soft spots, workload in targets, or splitting out wide. I think the Ravens just need to be more creative with Allen honestly because he can be a huge weapon.

As far as Collins go, I agree, I would like to see him more in that role as well, but I think Collins is different in the fact that most of his yards come in the flat, short curl or any ordinary route you usually see an RB run. He's just so great with his elusiveness and has done great at breaking tackles to get those extra yards, but there's a clear difference in the way they both get their yards.

If anything, Collins is showing us last year was no fluke and should definitely have the balls in his hands more.

 

[Dom McRaven]

For me the key is to show that we can WIN vs good teams even if we're missing a piece or two. That's the sign of a team that's turned a corner.

Especially on the road. When was the last time we've been a quality team on the road?

I saw Harris jr and the safety murder eachother yesterday, anyone know what happened?

No I didn't. Did a quick Google search on CHJ and I didn't find anything.

Steelers don't look great, exactly.

Just WAIT until we play then. Next thing you know, "Have the Steelers turned the corner?" or "Are the Steelers the favorite in the AFC?"

 

[Justdewinit20]

This is pretty much my only factor for the game. The Broncos oline is teribad, far worse than the Bengals. the running game doesn't exist, and while they have two talented WRs in Sanders and Thomas... Look at who's throwing them the ball. Keenum? The Broncos defense is a nice unit, and Miller is a game wrecker. But I personally think we can handle them.

If we make the smart decision to BENCH HURST

Idk what position on the o line the Bengals are better at than the Broncos other than LT

 

[rossihunter2]

I think Allen has that ability to run a more variety of routes and can do the things you kind of expect of a WR, exp: catching throws on the run, finding soft spots, workload in targets, or splitting out wide. I think the Ravens just need to be more creative with Allen honestly because he can be a huge weapon.

As far as Collins go, I agree, I would like to see him more in that role as well, but I think Collins is different in the fact that most of his yards come in the flat, short curl or any ordinary route you usually see an RB run. He's just so great with his elusiveness and has done great at breaking tackles to get those extra yards, but there's a clear difference in the way they both get their yards.

If anything, Collins is showing us last year was no fluke and should definitely have the balls in his hands more.

i can only think of one time this year that i saw allen run anything other than a typical rb route to any effect - im not saying he's not useful but i think you are overestimating his abilities tbh

 

[Militant X 1]

For me O line play made the difference during that run. The season looked like it could be wasted, they lost 4 of 5 down the stretch, then McKinnie decided to come out of hibernation and energized the squad.

O-line play definitely improved duirng that stretch but you can't discredit the "caliber" of players that was on that roster in comparison to today's roster. Those boys back then made an impressive run during the playoffs once they got there by winning in Denver and Foxboro.

Then to endure the fiasco of the lights being cut off on them and sitting for 34 mins in the Super Bowl and then to stave off the resurging comeback of the "younger" 49ers to win it all? Now that was an impressive roster. Definitely an impressive roster compared to the players on today's roster imo!