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The Nightmare, the Turnovers and the Season's Over

Kelce had 11 catches for 116 yards, and time and time again in critical situations, he was their go to guy. If it was third and 7, we all knew who Mahomes was going to target.
Why didn’t the Ravens know it? Was it impossible for us to cover the guy?
 
I will never get excited about this team again until the playoffs, there’s literally no point, we were dominant all year and when it mattered most we turned it over and lost to the douchebag chiefs with their douchebag fans
 
Yup. There's clear and obvious offensive holding on at least 50% of pass plays. I could show you illegal contact by defensive backs and linebackers on nearly every route run.

We throw flags on those, and it's a wrap.
that's correct, but your changing the topic. We are talking about a clearly specific play that there was DPI. Guaranteed they call that on us, if it happened that way.
 
Kelce had 11 catches for 116 yards, and time and time again in critical situations, he was their go to guy. If it was third and 7, we all knew who Mahomes was going to target.
Why didn’t the Ravens know it? Was it impossible for us to cover the guy?
I know. They covered him like he was some ordinary threat but in reality he was imo the MVP. He won the game for them with his play and with his mind games. He dominated borh
 
that's correct, but your changing the topic. We are talking about a clearly specific play that there was DPI. Guaranteed they call that on us, if it happened that way.
I don't even think it's correct.

If you can find me an example as obvious as that no call PI, I'll concede, but these are professional players playing at the highest level of football. Assuming they commit a clear and obvious penalty on every single snap is laughable. Most of these guys have spent their entire life honing their craft and we think they're not good enough to play without committing clear and obvious penalties on every play? Ha, okay.
 
that's correct, but your changing the topic. We are talking about a clearly specific play that there was DPI. Guaranteed they call that on us, if it happened that way.
You will not see any ref call DPI in that spot in any game. Especially when Likely is basically playing defense on that throw as opposed to offense.
 
Kelce had 11 catches for 116 yards, and time and time again in critical situations, he was their go to guy. If it was third and 7, we all knew who Mahomes was going to target.
Why didn’t the Ravens know it? Was it impossible for us to cover the guy?
They held him to two catches for 20 yards in the second half. Felt like they manned up more and disrupted more at the line of scrimmage. Obviously made a significant difference.
 
I don't even think it's correct.

If you can find me an example as obvious as that no call PI, I'll concede, but these are professional players playing at the highest level of football. Assuming they commit a clear and obvious penalty on every single snap is laughable. Most of these guys have spent their entire life honing their craft and we think they're not good enough to play without committing clear and obvious penalties on every play? Ha, okay.
I agree with you. That was an obvious dpi and took atleat 3 points off the board for us. Refs seemed to be pretty one sided yesterday.
 
Kelce had 11 catches for 116 yards, and time and time again in critical situations, he was their go to guy. If it was third and 7, we all knew who Mahomes was going to target.
Why didn’t the Ravens know it? Was it impossible for us to cover the guy?
I mean there's at least two completions, one for a TD, where he's smothered with coverage. Kyle Hamilton was draped literally all over him on that TD throw. I wouldn't expect him or us to do anything differently. It was just a great throw and an even better catch.

Mahomes/Kelce made two big time plays in that game where you can't do anything but just say "yeah, that's what elite players do". Even the Lamar "reception" is a great play by the defense... he just makes an all-world play that pretty much only he can do.
 
I posted still frame shots of the throw and it was very blatant PI.

I said it before, but 11 players could have been defending Likely and you still need to call that because it wasn't an iffy call- it was blatant.

When I say blatant I am saying that in order to get a PI on a hail mary you basically have to have grabbed the receiver and thrown him early. Hitting him early is never going to get a PI on a hail mary and similarly it is not going to get called when you throw into triple coverage.

All this talk about how it should be PI seems to be ignoring that it was by far the worst throw any QB has made in the entire playoffs. There is no sugar coating it. That was a terrible horrendous decision that I cannot comprehend because there was no world where Likely was going to come down with that ball.
 
i've seen DPIs in that spot multiple times. You're clearly reaching.
No, you haven't. And in reality, you don't want DPI in that spot either. It's just a bailout for the offense. If Likely doesn't get touched, he's still never coming within a stratosphere of catching that ball. The absolute best thing he could ever do is play defense to stop one of the other three guys going from the ball from catching it. Not only isn't a spot where you want the QB to make that throw, the throw itself isn't even good. It's short, put in a spot where his receiver can practically never get it.

It's a total bailout. Rewarding offensive players for simply not being good at offense. I sit here every week and listen to our own fans bitch about refs bailing out QBs for bad throws with PI flags. Throwing the ball 10 yards short on purpose so the receiver has to "run into" the defender to make a play. This isn't as egregious as that, but it's not a catchable ball.
 
When I say blatant I am saying that in order to get a PI on a hail mary you basically have to have grabbed the receiver and thrown him early. Hitting him early is never going to get a PI on a hail mary and similarly it is not going to get called when you throw into triple coverage.

All this talk about how it should be PI seems to be ignoring that it was by far the worst throw any QB has made in the entire playoffs. There is no sugar coating it. That was a terrible horrendous decision that I cannot comprehend because there was no world where Likely was going to come down with that ball.
I have never suggested the throw and decision weren't bad, so saying that is irrelevant to the point.

The fact of the matter is the defender shoved him down well before the ball was even in frame. It was textbook DPI. Like, you'd put that in example videos of what DPI looks like.

Absolutely horrible no call.
 
I have never suggested the throw and decision weren't bad, so saying that is irrelevant to the point.

The fact of the matter is the defender shoved him down well before the ball was even in frame. It was textbook DPI. Like, you'd put that in example videos of what DPI looks like.

Absolutely horrible no call.
agree and as Adreme is suggesting that no dpi's are called on hail mary's. This was not a hail mary.
 
agree and as Adreme is suggesting that no dpi's are called on hail mary's. This was not a hail mary.
I'm also laughing at the suggestion that I wouldn't want DPI called there.

Yes, I would. I wouldn't be mad that the ref called DPI; I'd be mad my team's player committed an unnecessary DPI.

If we're going to suggest offenses shouldn't be bailed out, I'd counter defenses shouldn't be rewarded with no calls on obvious flags. That's equally problematic.
 
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