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2019 WR Thread

rossihunter2 said:
Updated top 5 wrs for me:

  1. Marquise Brown
  2. Deebo Samuel
  3. Hakeem Butler
  4. Parris Campbell
  5. AJ Brown
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This is very hard but mine would prob look like:

1) Metcalf
2) Harmon
3) Butler
4) Deebo Samuel
5) JJ Arcega Whiteside

That is very subject to change though.
 
A guy I'd take a 5th round flier on is Miles Boykin. raw route runner, but his catch radius is gigantic. He extends his arms and catches the ball far away from the CB. Multiple cicrus catches. Willing blocker. AND he is the second WR since 2005 to post top percentile numbers across 40, broad, vert, three cone, shuttle, weight, height, arms and hands. guess who the other WR is: Julio Jones.
I'm confident in Culley's abilites to develop Boykin
 
Hey guys, been lurking a while and decided to make an account and jump in.

I've seen Parris Campbell come up a few times in this thread, so I thought you guys might be interested in the interview he did with the Move The Sticks podcast (starts at about 30:00):
https://open.spotify.com/episode/41oiQ1w0HdD9kWgnoURofG?si=7Xbo0VG9QVewoPN6OFiDwQ

Seems like a good kid. I'm sure we all know by now, but Daniel Jeremiah (who hosts the podcast) is a former Ravens scout. He also has Campbell mocked to the Ravens at 22. I believe he had the highest hit rate of predicted drafts last year as well...
 
QuothTheRaven said:
Hey guys, been lurking a while and decided to make an account and jump in.

I've seen Parris Campbell come up a few times in this thread, so I thought you guys might be interested in the interview he did with the Move The Sticks podcast (starts at about 30:00):
https://open.spotify.com/episode/41oiQ1w0HdD9kWgnoURofG?si=7Xbo0VG9QVewoPN6OFiDwQ

Seems like a good kid. I'm sure we all know by now, but Daniel Jeremiah (who hosts the podcast) is a former Ravens scout. He also has Campbell mocked to the Ravens at 22. I believe he had the highest hit rate of predicted drafts last year as well...
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Thanks for joining

And yeah DJ’s also been a major proponent philosophically of putting a track team around Lamar so him mocking Campbell to us makes a lot of sense
 
parris campbell is growing on me. i wouldnt pound the table for him at 22, but if we took him id be excited and weary of him.

i dont think hes a sure thing by any means, but if hes gonna be anything in the NFL, he'll be a guy who can take short ones to the house and can be a very scary gadget player. i dont know if he succeeds on all 32 teams, but we have a special kind of offense that could potentially maximize his talents. we should be setting lots of picks with our TEs and mixing up ballcarriers in the backfield with misdirection and jet sweeps, and parris campbell looks like the ideal fit for that. im just imagining lamar, campbell, and ingram/gus in the wishbone, with either 21 or 22 personnel, you ishave an up the middle threat, a BIG play home run threat for each edge, a backfield receiving threat, a block/receive option(or 2), and 1-2 outside receiving threat or potential blockers. thats a scary proposition when you have all that big play ability, deception, and versatility just out of the backfield alone.

you can talk about filling, scraping, crashing, gap integrity all you want, but at some point an 8 man box isnt gonna have all 8 defenders on the same page and they will pay dearly with burners on the edges, and a 3 man secondary just isnt gonna shut down the passing game even with the most inaccurate of passers.

the sad thing is we couldve already had this with dj moore lol. but another upside is we can get this same impact from either him or deebo, one being a bigger home run threat and the other a more skilled receiver and physical runner
 
while i think the ravens hope to land a top WR at 22, i have a feeling that when were on the clock, theres a player that is nothing close to a need but a talent we thought had no business being available and we go that route, and then i think theres a good chance we find a starting WR on day 2, whether we trade up or someone falls, i think one of a guy like deebo, harmon, campbell, AJ brown, arcega-whiteside, or marquise brown have a chance to fall to our third or within trade reach and we can land one and still have the needed resources to address the OL and pass rush.
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
parris campbell is growing on me. i wouldnt pound the table for him at 22, but if we took him id be excited and weary of him.

i dont think hes a sure thing by any means, but if hes gonna be anything in the NFL, he'll be a guy who can take short ones to the house and can be a very scary gadget player. i dont know if he succeeds on all 32 teams, but we have a special kind of offense that could potentially maximize his talents. we should be setting lots of picks with our TEs and mixing up ballcarriers in the backfield with misdirection and jet sweeps, and parris campbell looks like the ideal fit for that. im just imagining lamar, campbell, and ingram/gus in the wishbone, with either 21 or 22 personnel, you ishave an up the middle threat, a BIG play home run threat for each edge, a backfield receiving threat, a block/receive option(or 2), and 1-2 outside receiving threat or potential blockers. thats a scary proposition when you have all that big play ability, deception, and versatility just out of the backfield alone.

you can talk about filling, scraping, crashing, gap integrity all you want, but at some point an 8 man box isnt gonna have all 8 defenders on the same page and they will pay dearly with burners on the edges, and a 3 man secondary just isnt gonna shut down the passing game even with the most inaccurate of passers.

the sad thing is we couldve already had this with dj moore lol. but another upside is we can get this same impact from either him or deebo, one being a bigger home run threat and the other a more skilled receiver and physical runner
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marquise brown still my number 1 receiver and deebo still my number 2 but campbell is my number 4 and i think the fit for all 3 is incredible for lamar - marquise brown is so twitchy that he can create so much space on the field, deebo is a great route runner and really great fit working out of the slot and outside, campbell is the weakest route runner of the 3 but the playmaking and speed he can add and the ability to lineup all over the field would be a big boon
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
while i think the ravens hope to land a top WR at 22, i have a feeling that when were on the clock, theres a player that is nothing close to a need but a talent we thought had no business being available and we go that route, and then i think theres a good chance we find a starting WR on day 2, whether we trade up or someone falls, i think one of a guy like deebo, harmon, campbell, AJ brown, arcega-whiteside, or marquise brown have a chance to fall to our third or within trade reach and we can land one and still have the needed resources to address the OL and pass rush.
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i think unless there's a great talent falling to our spot that we do what we did last year with hayden hurst and manoeuvre down from our pick to target a group of receivers at a pick we think is good value for that pick and still get the players we were originally targeting
 
rossihunter2 said:
marquise brown still my number 1 receiver and deebo still my number 2 but campbell is my number 4 and i think the fit for all 3 is incredible for lamar - marquise brown is so twitchy that he can create so much space on the field, deebo is a great route runner and really great fit working out of the slot and outside, campbell is the weakest route runner of the 3 but the playmaking and speed he can add and the ability to lineup all over the field would be a big boon
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marquise brown is twitchy but hes not as twitchy as id like considering his size, he has zero route running pedigree because hes from the big12 and literally had to do nothing to get open and you can see that on film. hes not the sharp explosive cutter youd want from a guy his size either.

basically for hollywood, hes so damn small that you except absolutely incredible ability in every burst/agility/route/cutting department, and instead he just offers great top end speed and really good at all those other things, but not necessarily "great" or "special" in those areas. he doesnt have desean jackson burst or agility and also lacks that great length, he doesnt have the stocky build or incredible "joystick" running style of a tyreek hill or AB, to me he just looks like a 9 route and drag route specialist and you better hope like hell no defenders get a hand on him or lay a clean hit. i just dont see him overcoming the size enough

and for campbell, like i said im not sold on him as a receiver because i just think hes so far from being refined that its a risk, and he is a body catcher through and through, he catches everything in his gut, and thats scary, i wouldnt even consider him in the first round if he wasnt the percy harvin type and if we didnt run our style of offense. he would be a focal point in this offense, taking handoffs, screens and designed dumpoffs out of the backfield, jet motions, etc. he could do a lot of damage against a loaded box the same way percy harvin did for the seahawks back in the day.
 
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rossihunter2 said:
i think unless there's a great talent falling to our spot that we do what we did last year with hayden hurst and manoeuvre down from our pick to target a group of receivers at a pick we think is good value for that pick and still get the players we were originally targeting
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Absolutely I think the odds are better that we trade back than pick at 22. Of course I’ve no idea who the team thinks would be that special talent but I think the odds of someone being there who we can’t up are less than one we’ll be willing to wait on and get more draft capital.
 
balfan23 said:
Absolutely I think the odds are better that we trade back than pick at 22. Of course I’ve no idea who the team thinks would be that special talent but I think the odds of someone being there who we can’t up are less than one we’ll be willing to wait on and get more draft capital.
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i genuinely think by the time we get to the draft we'll move around like we did and still get our guy like we did with hurst

like we'll have a target we want to get and a spot in the draft we think is great value for them (with some backup options with similar grades in case they get sniped a few picks ahead of us) but basically moving back a few spots at a time and still trying to get our specific target - i mean thats the only way i can rationalise how we might be sure to fix WR because we sure as hell arent fixing it in free agency
 
Jacquouille said:
Okay back at it. As you can see I wanted to do the WR first. I didn't even do all of them but you get the idea: it's a LOADED class, and I think we could get some big time prospects in the third round. I'd love for us to double dip at that position with our two picks there.
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With the lack of free agency options and our dearth at the position I’m 100% with you on double dipping but honestly unless a major talent at another position falls I think that double dip might have to start with our first pick (wherever that ends up being)
 
rossihunter2 said:
With the lack of free agency options and our dearth at the position I’m 100% with you on double dipping but honestly unless a major talent at another position falls I think that double dip might have to start with our first pick (wherever that ends up being)
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There's no other way around it. We have Snead as it stands. We'll sign below average vet. The rest, including Moore, is just a bunch of question marks

Moore
Lasley
Adeboyejo
Scott

That's a new level of low, even for the Ravens.

Maybe Eric has a trade in mind?
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
marquise brown is twitchy but hes not as twitchy as id like considering his size, he has zero route running pedigree because hes from the big12 and literally had to do nothing to get open and you can see that on film. hes not the sharp explosive cutter youd want from a guy his size either.

basically for hollywood, hes so damn small that you except absolutely incredible ability in every burst/agility/route/cutting department, and instead he just offers great top end speed and really good at all those other things, but not necessarily "great" or "special" in those areas. he doesnt have desean jackson burst or agility and also lacks that great length, he doesnt have the stocky build or incredible "joystick" running style of a tyreek hill or AB, to me he just looks like a 9 route and drag route specialist and you better hope like hell no defenders get a hand on him or lay a clean hit. i just dont see him overcoming the size enough

and for campbell, like i said im not sold on him as a receiver because i just think hes so far from being refined that its a risk, and he is a body catcher through and through, he catches everything in his gut, and thats scary, i wouldnt even consider him in the first round if he wasnt the percy harvin type and if we didnt run our style of offense. he would be a focal point in this offense, taking handoffs, screens and designed dumpoffs out of the backfield, jet motions, etc. he could do a lot of damage against a loaded box the same way percy harvin did for the seahawks back in the day.
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I think youre spot on with capmbell, especially with rhe percy harvin comparisons
 
rossihunter2 said:
With the lack of free agency options and our dearth at the position I’m 100% with you on double dipping but honestly unless a major talent at another position falls I think that double dip might have to start with our first pick (wherever that ends up being)
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1st round is always BPA so I'm not counting on it. I wouldn't hate a Clellin Ferell or a Erik McCoy.
 
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