Free Agency 2019

[52520Andrew]

this is how crazy free agency has been already - we've got 31 comp pick eligible player contracts before free agency even technically starts
obviously these cut offs and boundaries are not official (and wont ever be) but if anything i think the 3rd rounder cutoff might be too high given the boundary increase between 2017-18 - either way it affects us not at all because CJ and ZDS got monster contracts and unless we go big on a UFA who wasn't a cap casualty those 3rds are likely nailed on

if we do get ingram (if that's actually happening), ideally he would come in below 8m to preserve the likely 4th rounder we'd get for john brown too

Cap has been increasing for years now(was about 120 in 2013 and now up to about 180. A contract worth 10% of the cap in 2013(12 mil) is now worth 18 mil. A lot of players aren't paid to reflect that change so there is a large excess in cap room out there. And that is before we get into all the teams that rolled over large amounts(looking at you Cleveland).

At the end of the day with all this money teams have to spend with plenty of room under the cap and an alright FA class but nothing special, it results in a lot of players getting overpaid.

 

[Simba]

At this point, the Ravens only have 5 FAs left, so they do have to be careful when it comes to comp picks if they really want to hold onto them.

Buck Allen, RG3, Ty Montgomery, Brent Urban, and Maxx Williams

Urban might be the only one left that could factor into the comp pick equation, and I also wouldn't rule out us re-signing him.

 

[52520Andrew]

At this point, the Ravens only have 5 FAs left, so they do have to be careful when it comes to comp picks if they really want to hold onto them.

Buck Allen, RG3, Ty Montgomery, Brent Urban, and Maxx Williams

Urban might be the only one left that could factor into the comp pick equation, and I also wouldn't rule out us re-signing him.

At this point it would make sense to try to resign Urban and maybe go after cuts. Given how expensive a lot of these FAs are, I wouldn't mind trying to maximize cap rollover and comp picks out of this year, could really pay dividends in 2020 and beyond

 

[Simba]

At this point it would make sense to try to resign Urban and maybe go after cuts. Given how expensive a lot of these FAs are, I wouldn't mind trying to maximize cap rollover and comp picks out of this year, could really pay dividends in 2020 and beyond

I'd guess with the interest in Ingram, they're counting on at least 1 of these guys to sign a contract factoring into the comp equation. I would guess RG3 is back at some point. Montgomery and Allen are clearly on the outs if they bring in Ingram, but they aren't going to get anything much more than the minimum. That leaves Urban and Maxx.

So, yeah, focus on the comps at this juncture, unless someone out there just doesn't develop a market and comes at a bargain. We're missing a 2nd this year, so those extra picks next year will be super helpful to bridge that gap.

 

[JoeyFlex5]

Lmao, gutted.
You never liked ZDS, Weddle and Suggs are 70 years old and you wouldn't have paid CJ more than $12m.
Plus, fucking FA hasn't even started yet.

It’s not that I’m complaining about losing them, it’s more that I’m pissed that our #1 defense is halfway gone overnight. I didn’t like ZDS up until he finally put it together last year, he was a key component to our rush, I didn’t wanna pay Mosley that but it sucks he’s gone regardless, and we still have done nothing to address the OL(no consideration to Morse) and we had a chance to add a star RB who literally would’ve been our best receiver as well, and we didnt(if you don’t think we could’ve topped that 13m/yr offer and got him here you’re kidding, he’s more than worth that).

Regardless of what players got paid what and what we couldn’t afford, the team is still gutted quite a bit. Our defensive leaders are all gone in one week and we have total unprovens across the board to replace them. I’m not saying I’m mad at Eric for not overpaying Suggs and Mosley, I’m saying that our team is in fact gutted at the moment.

Not to mention... we really don’t know if lamar is the guy, we don’t know if he’s gonna work in the nfl, I’m hopeful and optimistic but we don’t know.

I’m just being honest here, unless we have a lot of guys step up big time and nail this draft, we’re looking like a sub .500 team. Tim Williams, tyus bowser, Kenny young, peanut, Jefferson, Clark, Henry, and Elliott all need to make gigantic strides for us to field a defense that isn’t a total shell of itself. Edwards, Dixon, Bozeman, hurst, lasley, Moore, and even lamar all need to take gigantic strides as well, and that’s something that basically NEEDS to happen, ON TOP OF nailing our draft, even with a stellar draft, we’re gonna need nearly every one of those names to step up in a major way to be competitive.

This team is quite a ways off, and with this FA pool we aren’t gonna be making many strides before the draft.

 

[JoeyFlex5]

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Not to spread rumors or anything, but I know someone that knows Tim pretty well and he was inactive for more than just on field reasons. I'll keep it simple and says he needs to get his shit straight. Nothing egregious, but just not acting like a professional.

I knew that because he looked good on the field before the injury. There’s a good chance that he’s a bit immature and irresponsible, he was very overweight when he arrived at camp as a rookie, plus he had the off field concerns already. I have a feeling he rests on his downtime a little too much.

 

[52520Andrew]

I'd guess with the interest in Ingram, they're counting on at least 1 of these guys to sign a contract factoring into the comp equation. I would guess RG3 is back at some point. Montgomery and Allen are clearly on the outs if they bring in Ingram, but they aren't going to get anything much more than the minimum. That leaves Urban and Maxx.

So, yeah, focus on the comps at this juncture, unless someone out there just doesn't develop a market and comes at a bargain. We're missing a 2nd this year, so those extra picks next year will be super helpful to bridge that gap.

Yeah honestly I am not sure I would sign Ingram but if we do then Urban would most likely go for the highest among our FAs still available

 

[Simba]

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I knew that because he looked good on the field before the injury. There’s a good chance that he’s a bit immature and irresponsible, he was very overweight when he arrived at camp as a rookie, plus he had the off field concerns already. I have a feeling he rests on his downtime a little too much.

Yeah, the drive just isn't there. It goes a little deeper than just preparedness, but he hasn't earned any time on the field with his behavior at the end of last year, at least from what I've been told.

 

[allblackraven]

It’s not that I’m complaining about losing them, it’s more that I’m pissed that our #1 defense is halfway gone overnight. I didn’t like ZDS up until he finally put it together last year, he was a key component to our rush, I didn’t wanna pay Mosley that but it sucks he’s gone regardless, and we still have done nothing to address the OL(no consideration to Morse) and we had a chance to add a star RB who literally would’ve been our best receiver as well, and we didnt(if you don’t think we could’ve topped that 13m/yr offer and got him here you’re kidding, he’s more than worth that).

Regardless of what players got paid what and what we couldn’t afford, the team is still gutted quite a bit. Our defensive leaders are all gone in one week and we have total unprovens across the board to replace them. I’m not saying I’m mad at Eric for not overpaying Suggs and Mosley, I’m saying that our team is in fact gutted at the moment.

Not to mention... we really don’t know if lamar is the guy, we don’t know if he’s gonna work in the nfl, I’m hopeful and optimistic but we don’t know.

I’m just being honest here, unless we have a lot of guys step up big time and nail this draft, we’re looking like a sub .500 team. Tim Williams, tyus bowser, Kenny young, peanut, Jefferson, Clark, Henry, and Elliott all need to make gigantic strides for us to field a defense that isn’t a total shell of itself. Edwards, Dixon, Bozeman, hurst, lasley, Moore, and even lamar all need to take gigantic strides as well, and that’s something that basically NEEDS to happen, ON TOP OF nailing our draft, even with a stellar draft, we’re gonna need nearly every one of those names to step up in a major way to be competitive.

This team is quite a ways off, and with this FA pool we aren’t gonna be making many strides before the draft.

Let the guys play and show they belong. We'll at least know where we're at but I think there's a lot of good young talent on the team. We'll get help in FA and hopefully draft well but I don't think the team is gutted because couple journeyman on offense and two old guys on D have left / been cut. I'm only pissed because we didn't extend CJ on time but that's on Ozzie.

And please enough with Bell. Why are you and lot of others around here so stuck up on him? You all know that he just isn't the kind of guy we want in Baltimore and that he was never going to be an option, regardless of the cost.

 

[Militant X 1]

Seriously.

It's frustrating to watch people say stuff like "So much for that #1 defense." It's not like we lost Humphrey, Judon, Young, and Jimmy smith. he only huge loss was Mosely.

I believe that is what's being said due to two reasons:

1. The loss of veteran leadership on the defense (i.e. Weddle, Mosely & Suggs).
2. The loss of veteran leadership at all 3 levels of the defense (i.e. OLB/Pass Rush/Suggs, MLB/Mosely and Safety/Weddle).

Mosely was the signal caller in the middle that got people lined up properly. When he was out, Weddle assumed those duties. Now, to lose those guys all in one week? That's pretty significant IMO. I'm hoping DeCosta does something major or significant (i.e. free agency or the draft) to make us better.

 

[52520Andrew]

Tom Pelissero‏Verified account @TomPelissero 4m4 minutes ago
The #Redskins are going to release LB Zach Brown, source said. They shopped him and multiple teams expressed interest, but couldn't strike a deal. Should sign quickly now that he's free. A @pff favorite.

 

[allblackraven]

I believe that is what's being said due to two reasons:

1. The loss of veteran leadership on the defense (i.e. Weddle, Mosely & Suggs).
2. The loss of veteran leadership at all 3 levels of the defense (i.e. OLB/Pass Rush/Suggs, MLB/Mosely and Safety/Weddle).

Mosely was the signal caller in the middle that got people lined up properly. When he was out, Weddle assumed those duties. Now, to lose those guys all in one week? That's pretty significant IMO. I'm hoping DeCosta does something major or significant (i.e. free agency or the draft) to make us better.

That's true but you can't really do anything about it. It wouldn't have made any sense keeping Weddle as basically on the field coach, he clearly lost it on speed/tackling level. It also wouldn't make sense paying CJ what Jets gave.

So, fuck it - someone else has to step up. We lost Ray and Ed before and found CJ, we'll find the next guy, too.

 

[allblackraven]

Tom Pelissero‏Verified account @TomPelissero 4m4 minutes ago
The #Redskins are going to release LB Zach Brown, source said. They shopped him and multiple teams expressed interest, but couldn't strike a deal. Should sign quickly now that he's free. A @pff favorite.

He's the weird case. Always has stats but never gets paid or retained for more than a year or two.

 

[rossihunter2]

Not to spread rumors or anything, but I know someone that knows Tim pretty well and he was inactive for more than just on field reasons. I'll keep it simple and says he needs to get his shit straight. Nothing egregious, but just not acting like a professional.

oh i know all that lol and it makes sense given why he fell in the draft and that was what was coming out from some beat writers after he got off the injury report at the end of the year but still wasnt active - but my feeling on the situation is that the injury maybe allowed him to fall into some bad habits etc. (i may of course be completely wrong given that you probably know more about the situation than I) because he looked good and the coaches seemed pretty happy with him before that injury and the problems seemed to manifest once he was outside of the normal practice structure etc.

just me hypothesising

 

[JAAM]

Browns are no longer interested in Earl. I really hope we go hard after him.

 

[rossihunter2]

At this point, the Ravens only have 5 FAs left, so they do have to be careful when it comes to comp picks if they really want to hold onto them.

Buck Allen, RG3, Ty Montgomery, Brent Urban, and Maxx Williams

Urban might be the only one left that could factor into the comp pick equation, and I also wouldn't rule out us re-signing him.

it would be nice if one of these guys would qualify in the top 32 but it would be useful for any of them to just sign comp pick eligible contracts (i.e. before they no longer count against the formula) just so that we can preserve as many comp picks as possible even if we do sign someone (even if they dont qualify themselves)

 

[allblackraven]

Mike Triplett‏Verified account @MikeTriplett
Mike Triplett Retweeted Mike Triplett

Per source, the total value of Lutz's new five-year deal is the highest in NFL history. Full terms not available yet, but the league's top kickers make north of $4 million per year.

Mike Triplett added,

Mike TriplettVerified account @MikeTriplett
The Saints agreed to a new five-year deal with kicker Wil Lutz, per source, instead of just offering him an RFA tender. A no-brainer for the guy who finally solved New Orleans’ years of kicker issues.
4:37 AM - 14 Mar 2019

 

[Simba]

oh i know all that lol and it makes sense given why he fell in the draft and that was what was coming out from some beat writers after he got off the injury report at the end of the year but still wasnt active - but my feeling on the situation is that the injury maybe allowed him to fall into some bad habits etc. (i may of course be completely wrong given that you probably know more about the situation than I) because he looked good and the coaches seemed pretty happy with him before that injury and the problems seemed to manifest once he was outside of the normal practice structure etc.

just me hypothesising

I'll just go ahead and address the preparedness side of things - he dropped a lot of weight after the injury and never put it back on. This was public knowledge as Harbaugh even said it. However, he didn't handle Harbaugh calling him out well. He was late to meetings, games, and apparently racked up an impressive fine tab.

There's one more incident that I know of that apparently really pissed coaches off, but I don't feel it's my place to publicize that. Feel free to PM if you'd like.

 

[Militant X 1]

That's true but you can't really do anything about it. It wouldn't have made any sense keeping Weddle as basically on the field coach, he clearly lost it on speed/tackling level. It also wouldn't make sense paying CJ what Jets gave.

So, fuck it - someone else has to step up. We lost Ray and Ed before and found CJ, we'll find the next guy, too.

Oh, I agree with you wholeheartedly! CJ did well but our safety position hasn't been the same since Ed Reed left. I believe that we do have some young lions on the roster that will see their exodus as their major opportunity to step up. I believe that they are watching the news just like us and I have no doubt that they are probably growing massive chips on their shoulders cause analysts already have the Ravens defense and our whole team laying dead in the water after the defensive shakeup and browns signings.

 

[rossihunter2]

Mike Triplett‏Verified account @MikeTriplett
Mike Triplett Retweeted Mike Triplett

Per source, the total value of Lutz's new five-year deal is the highest in NFL history. Full terms not available yet, but the league's top kickers make north of $4 million per year.

Mike Triplett added,

Mike TriplettVerified account @MikeTriplett
The Saints agreed to a new five-year deal with kicker Wil Lutz, per source, instead of just offering him an RFA tender. A no-brainer for the guy who finally solved New Orleans’ years of kicker issues.
4:37 AM - 14 Mar 2019

another success of the ravens kicking academy