The Well-Mannered Politics Thread

that's patently false - the majority of BLM funds went to specific group causes that would help black lives in grassroots type places - the bail funds, the black trans lives organisations, victims families and advocacy groups

very little BLM funds went to any party political organisations in any way at all

the link you've posted suggests that almost all the defund the police donations went through that one site which is patently false

and it's also spreading false information about ActBlue that came from one random conservative instagram post

ActBlue is essentially a fundraising platform - it's facilitating fundraising not actually pocketing any money - they even have separate accounts for non-political funding

the lists of top donors are not a list of people that actblue has itself donated to as if they were some sort of democratic Pac but actually a summary of the biggest fundraising campaigns hosted through their sites (it's no different to WinRed the "republican" equivalent)

it's a site that allows small money donations to fundraise campaigns - it's one of the tools the democrats used in the 2018 midterms and the republicans have since created their own platform to do the same

so unfortunately you've shared fake news

BLM money is no more going to biden or sanders or warren as george floyd memorial money is going to the we the people built the wall fundraiser simply because they are both raised on gofundme...

 

um players get to do that all the time and they often advocate with their local leaders - it literally happens with baltimore players all throughout ravens history

its easy to use something in an election when you fix it - you get to launch yourself on a platform of fixing things - easiest platform to run on... much easier than vote for me the other guy is worse...

if using problems (without solutions) to win elections was the only reason any governments or players etc. did anything then the democrats would have won every single US election since the 1960s simply on the basis of the appalling republican record on civil rights among other things...

and democrats havent been campaigning for defunding the police before this election either (and biden isnt for it either) so not sure how that helps them win elections either...

the logic doesnt make sense

 

What’s bizarre is anyone referring to Hillary Clinton as “left”

 

far left? you having a laugh - she's on the political right wing in most countries except the US where she's still right of centre but the overton window is so far right in the US that your choices seem to be far right vs right (with the occasional marquee left policy promise)

 

you're misunderstanding - the overton window itself can shift as the range of acceptable policies and political opinions change - what im saying in the post you quoted is that the overton window in the US (i.e. the range of acceptable mainstream policies as vaguely agreed upon by the masses and media and politicians etc) is much further right than elsewhere in the world

over time the overton window can shift so it is not accurate to say someone is always far to the left of the overton window

the US has not this millennium for sure, but possibly never, had a left-wing candidate for presidential election

 

did he say the democrats were sane?

he said the left was sane - that's very much not the same thing as the democrats
also i agree - if trump wins it will be the fault of liberals (again not the same thing as the left) - MLK famously said that the white liberal was one of the biggest obstacles to the struggle for civil rights because of their obsession with decorum and manners and etiquette and allowing change only when they are comfortable with it