Ed Reed is a rare one that feels like he'd still dominate in this era. QBs of this era have never and probably will never see someone with that type of range.
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The Lamar, The Offence and The Pass Defence
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OURavensFan
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ravenslord
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Indeed. He probably would have had 2 picks in this last game. Sadly it looks like Marcus is cooked.
JoeyFlex5
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Burrow and Allen would have such shaken confidence from facing Ed Reed it would change their entire game, they’d be different players just from facing the consequences of playing against Ed Reed.
Sadly, because of Andy Reid and the way they’re able to make big plays from short passes, he would have a much smaller impact against the chiefs than he would against the other elite qbs in the league
i still have absolutely no idea why harbs called timeout with 49 seconds left in the half on 2nd and 10 lol
literally just let the clock run down (or let the bengals call their timeouts) - you can potentially just go into the half - in the end it costs 8 points
still on rewatch have no idea how you make that decision in that spot
literally just let the clock run down (or let the bengals call their timeouts) - you can potentially just go into the half - in the end it costs 8 points
still on rewatch have no idea how you make that decision in that spot
Trenton Simpson is a real bright light for this defence
so many of the guys individually in that unit look really good - just for some reason the pass coverage as a whole unit has been poor
so many of the guys individually in that unit look really good - just for some reason the pass coverage as a whole unit has been poor
It's not all perfect but he's been better than expected so far, at least in my eyes. Does a great job of putting himself in position to make plays. He's not near as erratic as you'd expect.
Looking more at the pass defence - im feeling a lot better about Zach Orr after the rewatch with the coaches film
a lot of the passing game losses were in man where tee or chase made great plays at the catchpoint with their leverage
there was one blown coverage where marlon blew the cover 3 on the chase deep shot (not on marcus williams like they said on the broadcast)
nate wiggins blew the iosivas deep shot by cheating to the sticks on 3rd down (and maybe having a peek at the QB)
the chase brown TD was a clear illegal pick (no route) that should have been called back for OPI
Williams and Roquan took terrible angles on the Chase screen
philosophically i do think Orr is trying to funnel too much towards the middle of the field and i really hope that changes on sunday against the commanders because it's putting a ton of stress on the LBs and the safeties to be perfect - i do think williams is late to drive on the ball over the middle a bit too which obviously contributes to making those areas bigger (and tougher for the LBs to cover)
so i have this concern and not sure why that's the choice Orr's making philosophically
but... most of our big losses were execution issues or chase and tee higgins being really great WRs with perfect ball placement and timing from their QB
a lot of the passing game losses were in man where tee or chase made great plays at the catchpoint with their leverage
there was one blown coverage where marlon blew the cover 3 on the chase deep shot (not on marcus williams like they said on the broadcast)
nate wiggins blew the iosivas deep shot by cheating to the sticks on 3rd down (and maybe having a peek at the QB)
the chase brown TD was a clear illegal pick (no route) that should have been called back for OPI
Williams and Roquan took terrible angles on the Chase screen
philosophically i do think Orr is trying to funnel too much towards the middle of the field and i really hope that changes on sunday against the commanders because it's putting a ton of stress on the LBs and the safeties to be perfect - i do think williams is late to drive on the ball over the middle a bit too which obviously contributes to making those areas bigger (and tougher for the LBs to cover)
so i have this concern and not sure why that's the choice Orr's making philosophically
but... most of our big losses were execution issues or chase and tee higgins being really great WRs with perfect ball placement and timing from their QB
had a great 2 play start to the 2nd half on the bengals first drive
ravenslord
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I thought the Bengals called an immediate timeout when we were 3rd and 10. I was fucking astonished and beside myself when i saw we called it
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Tank
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Guessing he thought we could possibly get into position to kick a FG. In hindsight maybe a bit risky, but something we see all the time in other games. I think what cost the points was shitty pass defense. Who knew? lol Cinci still had a TO in their pocket when they scored. But obviously I’m sure he wanted the decision back.
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it was 3rd and 10, but still that doesn't make any sense and of course no one asked him the question.
At worst they have time to get into position to score a fg and save 5 points.
Tank
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Guessing Cinci would have called a TO.
Baltimorican
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They dominated 7/8 qtrs v.s Dallas & Buffalo. They got into a track meet on the turf at Cincy, wonky divisional game. I'm bullish on the D sorting it out sooner than later.
which would have taken away a TO from their offensive possession
which would have taken away the middle of the field where they gashed us to get into position to take that deep shot
Tank
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They still had a TO when they scored, so I don’t think you can make that assumption.
Not trying to defend the decision, but it’s a big leap from that to 8 points.
OURavensFan
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Watched the replay on TV and man did the Bengals blitz a lot, they were getting a lot of pressure, ideally we can keep a cleaner pocket and also figure out how to beat these looks with the run game as well.
can't believe it took an injury to start this guy
there will be growing pains, but the great vastly outweighs the bad at the moment
he's had 2 pretty bad moments in his first 5 games that have been disasters... chris jones strip sack on his first nfl snap, missing his blocking assignment on the safety this week, but the general level of play has been so far ahead of expectations and schedule - the footwork and athleticism is as advertised
he's looked like one of the best OTs in the class so far (albeit early)
I do think the skill guys took a major step against the bengals
Derrick Henry is derrick henry
Zay looked unguardable at times
Bate has one of the best releases in the league which means he's a nightmare for CBs who press him and it looks like he and Lamar are finally developing some chemistry and trust
Mark had his best game of the year
Likely is a guaranteed playmaker with the ball in his hands and the rapport that he and Lamar have in the scramble drill already looks ridiculous
Justice hill only gets better and better as a 3rd down back (both in pass pro and as a receiver out of the backfield)
and then we have a few other contributors - kolar just had his best receiving game as a raven, tylan wallace was a big contributor at the end of the game, agholor has been useful the last 2 years
it does feel that this team could maybe do with a better WR3 (whether that be by making a splash for a guy like Davante - and bumping guys down the depth chart - or whether that be by finding someone who can come in and be an option as a WR3 but idk if we can find that guy)
Derrick Henry is derrick henry
Zay looked unguardable at times
Bate has one of the best releases in the league which means he's a nightmare for CBs who press him and it looks like he and Lamar are finally developing some chemistry and trust
Mark had his best game of the year
Likely is a guaranteed playmaker with the ball in his hands and the rapport that he and Lamar have in the scramble drill already looks ridiculous
Justice hill only gets better and better as a 3rd down back (both in pass pro and as a receiver out of the backfield)
and then we have a few other contributors - kolar just had his best receiving game as a raven, tylan wallace was a big contributor at the end of the game, agholor has been useful the last 2 years
it does feel that this team could maybe do with a better WR3 (whether that be by making a splash for a guy like Davante - and bumping guys down the depth chart - or whether that be by finding someone who can come in and be an option as a WR3 but idk if we can find that guy)
redrum52
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I think I keep asking this and keep forgetting but what's up with Walker?
And the team usually starts finding its groove around weeks 4-6.
Still think we need to reconsider the RG position