The Running Game, the Turnovers, and the Same Ol’ Ravens

[Deebo813]

Mark Andrews finally spoke

He shouldnt even have to do this..

 

[rossihunter2]

I have a feeling when thus team finally breaks through it will be a dominant post season run. Until then... we're left with this bs

that's almost part of the problem

we're too dominant when we win, especially against good teams

our only two options are dominate or lose frustratingly - there's no middle ground

 

[JoeyFlex5]

Had andrews not fumbled and we went and scored on that drive, bet your ass they’d come out of that shell and Stephens would’ve been the one catching

Lmao the post reply button wasn’t working and then there they were

 

[Tank]

I have the say the multiple Andrews errors in the 4th quarter hurt much more than the Evans-Cundiff debacle.

Not even close in comparison. AFCCG The Evans drop cost a trip to the SB. The Cundiff miss, another chance lost to get to the SB.

 

[RavensMania]

You can. Likely's contract prolly doesn't kick in hard til like '27. The magic wand that makes this all happen is a Jackson restructure. If there is anything good that can happen from these playoff meltdowns it's that Jackson should be more flexible now and willing to bend to get his guys back.

Likely contract is over at the end of 2025

 

[redrum52]

Not even close in comparison. AFCCG The Evans drop cost a trip to the SB. The Cundiff miss, another chance lost to get to the SB.

I remember a qb throwing a late 4th quarter int before that... but don't mind me

 

[OURavensFan]

I think we need to sign Chris Simms and cut Lamar: Simms has been there before, he said Lamar was late getting the ball out , Simms would not have made that mistake. Sign Chris Simms, he’s been there before !!!

 

[Tank]

I remember a qb throwing a late 4th quarter int before that... but don't mind me

lol... of course you do. 4th year QB mistake, no doubt. about mid quarter I think.
Didn't the QB on the other team throw it right back to us like 1 play later? Maybe you remember.

 

[OURavensFan]

https://www.reddit.com/r/buffalobills/s/7dDAvTAJDy

Lamar is a class act compared to Mahomes. Bills fans comparing their reactions after a loss

 

[Tank]

https://www.reddit.com/r/buffalobills/s/7dDAvTAJDy

Lamar is a class act compared to Mahomes. Bills fans comparing their reactions after a loss

So is Allen.

 

[redrum52]

lol... of course you do. 4th year QB mistake, no doubt. about mid quarter I think.
Didn't the QB on the other team throw it right back to us like 1 play later? Maybe you remember.

Yup. My only point was your perspective on it seems different from the last game. But maybe it's my "Lamar" tinted shades.

 

[JAAM]

I remember a qb throwing a late 4th quarter int before that... but don't mind me

Bro’s punching air now

 

[Tank]

Yup. My only point was your perspective on it seems different from the last game. But maybe it's my "Lamar" tinted shades.

Is it? I don't recall saying anything that would make it seem different. Just that losing a trip to the SB on one dropped pass was much more painful than a dropped 2 PC to tie a semi game. Not saying that wasn't painful too. Not sure what that has to do with Lamar, but you go ahead and make it whatever you want, IDC. lol

 

[Baltimorican]

Likely contract is over at the end of 2025

I mean his extension could be sorted to kick in hard in '27.

 

[QtR Nevermore]

I mean his extension could be sorted to kick in hard in '27.

The objectively sensible move would be to transition to paying Likely as the TE1 but I wonder if the human aspect changes that?

Lamar and Andrews have a connection. TE contracts are affordable enough, relative to WRs, that they can afford to keep it going forever. Should they do that, even at the cost of losing Likely, who might well be the better player by that point?

I'm not sure any of us outside the building can know what the better choice would be.

 

[Baltimorican]

The objectively sensible move would be to transition to paying Likely as the TE1 but I wonder if the human aspect changes that?

Lamar and Andrews have a connection. TE contracts are affordable enough, relative to WRs, that they can afford to keep it going forever. Should they do that, even at the cost of losing Likely, who might well be the better player by that point?

I'm not sure any of us outside the building can know what the better choice would be.

Dallas Goedert signed his 4 yr/57m backloaded contract while Ertz was still with the Eagles. So the Ravens absolutely can pull something off like that. Andrews restructures into something like 3 yr/30m with the last year ('27) being a void and minimal cap hit. Likely signs ~5 yr/70m with the cap hits escalating in the 3rd-5th years. Andrews is paid like the #1 TE for 2 more years and then its Likely. You can also extend Kolar cheap after '25. End result the best TE room in the league is locked in for 5 yrs and you're paying like 12-15m/yr for it.

Something like that, you get the picture.

 

[OURavensFan]

Dallas Goedert signed his 4 yr/57m backloaded contract while Ertz was still with the Eagles. So the Ravens absolutely can pull something off like that. Andrews restructures into something like 3 yr/30m with the last year ('27) being a void and minimal cap hit. Likely signs ~5 yr/70m with the cap hits escalating in the 3rd-5th years. Andrews is paid like the #1 TE for 2 more years and then its Likely. You can also extend Kolar cheap after '25. End result the best TE room in the league is locked in for 5 yrs and you're paying like 12-15m/yr for it.

Something like that, you get the picture.

If Andrews cost us another playoff game it’s a total failure on EDC. We have Likely balling out in multiple playoff games

 

[JAAM]

The objectively sensible move would be to transition to paying Likely as the TE1 but I wonder if the human aspect changes that?

Lamar and Andrews have a connection. TE contracts are affordable enough, relative to WRs, that they can afford to keep it going forever. Should they do that, even at the cost of losing Likely, who might well be the better player by that point?

I'm not sure any of us outside the building can know what the better choice would be.

Lamar and Likely have a connection, too. And Likely is younger and could very well become a superstar. I’m keeping him over Mark 10 times out of 10, and I thought this well before Mark’s disastrous game last week. Hell, I was saying Mark was cooked earlier in the season.

 

[Grim]

I don't think the Ravens let Likely go. The thing is, the Ravens know their players and we don't usually let better performing players leave. Mosley left but he had some issues and had issues and we couldn't pay his rate. I think I'll trust the team here and let it play out. I would be shocked if we let Likely leave but I admit there may be things we don't know as fans.

 

[Simba]

I don't think the Ravens let Likely go. The thing is, the Ravens know their players and we don't usually let better performing players leave. Moseley left but he had some issues and had issues and we couldn't pay his rate. I think I'll trust the team here and let it play out. I would be shocked if we let Likely leave but I admit there may be things we don't know as fans.

It wouldn't even be a debate if Mark wasn't here, which is why I tend to lean that they'll get something done... probably at the expense of Mark.

2026 is a rough free agent year though with a bunch of almost there but not quite stars due for deals - Likely, Oweh, and Jones in particular. KVN, Henry, and Mark as the vets that I'd guess are sent out to greener pastures in order to try to keep the younger talent.