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The Good, the bad, and the inability to beat good teams

Sami84

Ravens Ring of Honor
Hayden Hurst was a wasted pick

There is no he'll get better/ He's 26 years old

what was this FO smoking?
 

Oldfaithful

Hall of Famer
What are you even saying right now? You’re making less sense than @JoeyFlex5 when he’s on his weekly meltdown.

Who cares if it’s zone? Obviously you since you’re complaining that CJ shouldn’t have been on Hill.
Do I seriously need to play a slide show of every time since the SB we get outcoached in moments in situations we could feasibly end up on top. We constistnetly blow plays like this. It's nothing new. Who cares what kind of coverage it was? The problem isn't the players, they're the reason we were in this game to begin with. We had CJ from the get go lined up against the fastest dude in the league. Any QB worth their salt is going to exploit that regardless of what kind of coverage it was. That's the definition of a garbage scheme. Of course we blew that.

I'm fucking done. This game was humiliating and just continues to show how bad our coaching staff is. Harbaugh better be fucking gone.
 

RavensMania

Staff Member
Administrator
Hayden Hurst was a wasted pick

There is no he'll get better/ He's 26 years old

what was this FO smoking?
He’s 25. I would have loved Derwin James, if you are going to look at Hurst vs James, but other players came from this trade
 

Ravensnation5220

Ravens Ring of Honor
Can we just delete this thread and never talk about this game again

.....it just makes me mad we lost. We were the better team today. No doubts in my mind. Its BS
 

3-4ravdef509

Practice Squad
Reasons to start Joe

1. First and foremost to protect Lamar who doesn’t quite seem to know how to protect himself and can’t effectively carry the offense without running as much as he does

2. Lamar isn’t ready or refined enough as a passer to win against good teams and teams aregoing to keep challenging him

3. Joe might play better with some time out and some motivation from how Lamar played

4. There’s reason to believe the run game won’t disappear with Joe , we weren’t playing Edwards and Dixon early on , and we have momentum with the running game

5. If Joe plays bad, you can put Lamar back in

6. If Joe plays well, you never can count us out in the postseason

7. If Joe plays well that boosts his trade value , especially because not playing again after an injury at his age surely isn’t going to help his value

8. We can still play Lamar for entire drives and plays like we were earlier in the year.

9. Last reason is less about football, just out of respect I think once Joe is cleared to play it’s just disrespectful to sit him.
 

3-4ravdef509

Practice Squad
Why? So he can play 3 more games as a Raven and be cut, all while Lamar is on the bench on not getting live reps and not really getting better? He's the bright spot of the offense it's not his fault Marty is stupid

LOL Marty being stupid isn’t an excuse for defending Flacco but it is for defending Lamar??

Did Marty turf and throw behind receivers all game long?

Did Marty fumble a ball in a crucial situation?

Did Marty make Lamar run recklessly?

I actually am starting to become more favorable about Lamar long term but he’s gotten some valuable experience, let’s not jeopardize his future by playing him while he’s still too raw of a passer.
 

cobrajet

Hall of Famer
Reasons to start Joe

1. First and foremost to protect Lamar who doesn’t quite seem to know how to protect himself and can’t effectively carry the offense without running as much as he does

2. Lamar isn’t ready or refined enough as a passer to win against good teams and teams aregoing to keep challenging him

3. Joe might play better with some time out and some motivation from how Lamar played

4. There’s reason to believe the run game won’t disappear with Joe , we weren’t playing Edwards and Dixon early on , and we have momentum with the running game

5. If Joe plays bad, you can put Lamar back in

6. If Joe plays well, you never can count us out in the postseason

7. If Joe plays well that boosts his trade value , especially because not playing again after an injury at his age surely isn’t going to help his value

8. We can still play Lamar for entire drives and plays like we were earlier in the year.

9. Last reason is less about football, just out of respect I think once Joe is cleared to play it’s just disrespectful to sit him.
I am not ready to give up on Lamar, when the defense could not make the key stops today.
 

cdp

Ravens Ring of Honor
some players go for the big hit instead of pushing the receiver out of bounds. we gifted the chiefs free yards over and over again.
Would've been another game to get Andrews or Hurst going, but nope targeted Andrews twice (no catch), only Maxx caught his pass.
 

Oldfaithful

Hall of Famer
Reasons to start Joe

1. First and foremost to protect Lamar who doesn’t quite seem to know how to protect himself and can’t effectively carry the offense without running as much as he does

2. Lamar isn’t ready or refined enough as a passer to win against good teams and teams aregoing to keep challenging him

3. Joe might play better with some time out and some motivation from how Lamar played

4. There’s reason to believe the run game won’t disappear with Joe , we weren’t playing Edwards and Dixon early on , and we have momentum with the running game

5. If Joe plays bad, you can put Lamar back in

6. If Joe plays well, you never can count us out in the postseason

7. If Joe plays well that boosts his trade value , especially because not playing again after an injury at his age surely isn’t going to help his value

8. We can still play Lamar for entire drives and plays like we were earlier in the year.

9. Last reason is less about football, just out of respect I think once Joe is cleared to play it’s just disrespectful to sit him.
You're trashing a goddamn rookie QB when he's come leaps and bounds and has made our offense better be default. You continuously make blanket statements like "he cannot throw". Lamar is NOT THE REASON WE LOST. I think Flacco is a better thrower of the football, but Lamar has given this team better chances to win.

And #9 is just asinine. Sorry. You play to win the game, respect be damned.
 

3-4ravdef509

Practice Squad
Trashing Lamar when he's a fucking rookie.. Good job

I hope you’re not talking to me, I’m not trashing him. Actually I enjoyed the game and watching him play. But I’m worried about playing him any more this season while he’s such a raw passer and has to depend on his legs, I don’t want him to end up like RG3. I think another offseason training and working on mechanics and he might be scary good. Let’s not ruin him now, I’d feel better letting Joe finish his Ravens career as a starter if he’s healthy and then trade him.
 

Oldfaithful

Hall of Famer
You trash Josh Allen every day and he’s not even that bad
Josh Allen sucks.. Though he is in a much worse situation than ours... I still for the life of me cannot determine why any team would draft him over Lamar or Rosen.

He's come a long way, but I honestly doubt him moving forwards. He doesn't look like a franchise guy and yes I've been watching.

Weirdly enough he's been very effective, moreso than Lamar, running with the football
 

3-4ravdef509

Practice Squad
You're trashing a goddamn rookie QB when he's come leaps and bounds and has made our offense better be default. You continuously make blanket statements like "he cannot throw". Lamar is NOT THE REASON WE LOST. I think Flacco is a better thrower of the football, but Lamar has given this team better chances to win.

And #9 is just asinine. Sorry. You play to win the game, respect be damned.

Way to straw man argue against me.

Nothing you said was at all relevant to anything I said lol. And I said #9 was not a football reason, I listed it last for that reason. How about you respond to the first 8 and not the straw man arguments you constructed.
 

DeVito52

Ravens Ring of Honor
I hope you’re not talking to me, I’m not trashing him. Actually I enjoyed the game and watching him play. But I’m worried about playing him any more this season while he’s such a raw passer and has to depend on his legs, I don’t want him to end up like RG3. I think another offseason training and working on mechanics and he might be scary good. Let’s not ruin him now, I’d feel better letting Joe finish his Ravens career as a starter if he’s healthy and then trade him.
I see what you’re saying honestly. And I’d agree with you if Lamar didn’t make our team better than it is with joe. Lamar makes our team so much better in several different ways that joe can’t. Joe can’t make our run game thrive. Joe can’t keep our defense rested. Lamar is definitely not a great passer yet and still needs to develop but honestly we have a better chance of winning with him on the field.
 
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