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The Well-Mannered Politics Thread

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Dom McRaven

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I just... I can’t deal with these people some times.
When certain folks say "These people are stupid," this is what they mean.
 

Willbacker

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This video came out and reveals what everyone knows about Esptein. The anchor for ABC says she had the story for three years and that they got threats over it.... Trump may have scored another win as the democrats' secrets continue to be exposed.

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1191716801178034180

It should show how the media protect their own.

Don't worry somehow they will find a way to connect him with Trump. Maybe some footage of him flippantly saying "He's a fine man" back in 1993 or something.
 

Willbacker

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JO_75

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So I'm hearing Kurt Suzuki and Ryan Zimmerman are now white nationalists. I keep saying people that support Trump get treated like shit and its ok. Its not ok. Nobody said nothing about the 7 people that didn't go to the WH nor should they.

Best one tho was the lie about Stephen Strasburg. Yep. That was corrected.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/11/nationals-strasburg-trump-handshake-video-white-house-snub

Unfortunately most people who support Democrats are brainwashed at this point. They no longer think on their own or form their own opinion after listening to arguments on both sides. If the Dems tell them to think one way, that's the way they are going to think. It sucks that we've essentially lost individuality in this country and have now molded people into thinking the same way, feeling the same way, having the same opinions, etc.

If you happen to think differently or have a different opinion then your wrong no matter what because they think their opinion is the only ones that matter.
 

JO_75

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https://www.foxnews.com/media/elijah-cummings-seat-kimberly-klacik-baltimore-election-republican

You can either do same ol same ol with Kweisi Mfume who ran the district almost 30 yrs ago or Cumming's wife or bring in a fresh face that will help fix this district. Up to you guys that live in this area.

If we had term limits, then this wouldn't be a problem. So many states and voters are afraid of going outside of their comfort zone and keep the same people who fail their respective cities in office and keep voting them back in. Kimberly seems to be a Trump supporter so that will hurt her in a Democrat run state like Maryland and again, because the dems hate Trump than they love their country, she likely won't win. Maryland needs a fresh face in that seat regardless of party.

Our Senate is like Marvin Lewis. You sit there and wonder how they keep getting voted back in despite not doing anything to benefit their state.
 

52520Andrew

Pro Bowler
Fair enough. I will definitely walk my left hand comments back. Thing is I keep getting labeled even tho I voted Perot twice and voted downballot with McCain/Obama. The rest R starting with Reagans 2nd term. I voted twice for OMalley as governor. The 1st time being as I heard Ehrlich was planning on either leasing or selling portions of the Blackwater refuge to a developer friend of his and the 2nd since the Bay was getting cleaner and more crab population and I proudly sport Bay tags on 2 of my vehicles. The 3rd being an agricultural tag. Then he started getting ridiculous with taxes. One example my beer getting taxed 3 more cents on the dollar. Also voted for Ruppersberger religiously until the 18 ballot where I just went R down the ballot. I always like to do a mix sice I consider that a check on the govt. Just revolted on the last time in a form of protest.

When it come to Trump. Reason why his tweets don't bother me that much is just look what he goes thru. Starting with the spying on his campaign, the immediate impeachment talks and the accusatory namecalling. With @gtalk12 saying he is a counterpuncher which means he gets hit 1st and @balfan23 saying he's a shock jock its spot on. Its just who he is. At least he's not fake. Also Trump supporters being labeled as Nazi sympathizers and stuff like that makes me think to hell with people who are offended by his sayings.

As I've said before I'm less govt, less taxes and the Constitution being the law of the land. Also immigration and the economy are the highest on my list of importance.. Where I stand against Trump is things like budgetary control which he has not stopped and some environmental disagreements like the way Anwar exploration was added to the tax cut legislation but for me the plusses outweigh the negatives and by a looonnng shot.

You will like this clip from the Simpsons if you haven't seen it already


This treatment is what he signed up for as president, and the fact he has to troll on twitter doesn't do much to garner any sympathy from me. Maybe if he wants to act like an adult and be the bigger man that would be different but what we have right now are some 5 year olds pointing fingers at eachother when they both need to go to timeout.

But you don't think Trump is fake? The guy had the Clintons at his wedding, need I say more?
 

Willbacker

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If we had term limits, then this wouldn't be a problem. So many states and voters are afraid of going outside of their comfort zone and keep the same people who fail their respective cities in office and keep voting them back in. Kimberly seems to be a Trump supporter so that will hurt her in a Democrat run state like Maryland and again, because the dems hate Trump than they love their country, she likely won't win. Maryland needs a fresh face in that seat regardless of party.

Our Senate is like Marvin Lewis. You sit there and wonder how they keep getting voted back in despite not doing anything to benefit their state.

Well the only way would be a constitutional convention of states where I believe 35 governors with lots of backing can amend and ratify the constitution to declare term limits (Art V of the Constitution). No way our lawmakers (the legislative branch) will ever impose term limits. Pretty good article.

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/how-term-limit-congress

Thing is a lot of incumbents are bought and paid for by special interests so they get the most financial backing in endorsements ie things like commercials. A lot of people just go by name recognition unfortunately and not looking at the big picture.

There's also lists you can sign from different orginizations that fight for term limits. Not sure how much that helps but hey why sit on your hands.
 
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Willbacker

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You will like this clip from the Simpsons if you haven't seen it already


This treatment is what he signed up for as president, and the fact he has to troll on twitter doesn't do much to garner any sympathy from me. Maybe if he wants to act like an adult and be the bigger man that would be different but what we have right now are some 5 year olds pointing fingers at eachother when they both need to go to timeout.

But you don't think Trump is fake? The guy had the Clintons at his wedding, need I say more?


Hell I'm surprised you find him fake. Yeah I know he used to be a donor to the Clintons and made the peacock channel bunches of money with The Apprentice but hey he was a good guy then. But now he's supposedly alt right. Whatever.
 

52520Andrew

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Hell I'm surprised you find him fake. Yeah I know he used to be a donor to the Clintons and made the peacock channel bunches of money with The Apprentice but hey he was a good guy then. But now he's supposedly alt right. Whatever.
He was a reality tv star who can't even accept the fact he is bald. I think most people were more entertained by his antics than anything else. You want Kim Kardashian as the next president?
 

Willbacker

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He was a reality tv star who can't even accept the fact he is bald. I think most people were more entertained by his antics than anything else. You want Kim Kardashian as the next president?

I'd take her over Quid Pro Joe, Liawatha and the communist. The 2 best presidents while I've been alive both came from TV. What in the world are your news sources besides Twitter?
 

52520Andrew

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I'd take her over Quid Pro Joe, Liawatha and the communist. The 2 best presidents while I've been alive both came from TV. What in the world are your news sources besides Twitter?

Good for you, you know she wouldn't be any good but lets change the subject back to the democrats because it is all you know how to do. I just said I hate them both lol, are you that dense or that desperate? Your only defense of Trump is to say he isn't as bad as the other guy. That tells me all I need to know and frankly I think us continuing to discuss this stuff is a waste of time.

But before I go, know this. Reagan knew how to act like an adult. As I have stated before in this thread. It is what got the Berlin wall down. Not some twitter temper tantrum and always playing a victim. When did the Repiblican party become so liberal in that regard? It is pathetic. Birtherism boy Trump can't hold Reagan's jock strap.
 

Willbacker

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Good for you, you know she wouldn't be any good but lets change the subject back to the democrats because it is all you know how to do. I just said I hate them both lol, are you that dense or that desperate? Your only defense of Trump is to say he isn't as bad as the other guy. That tells me all I need to know and frankly I think us continuing to discuss this stuff is a waste of time.

But before I go, know this. Reagan knew how to act like an adult. As I have stated before in this thread. It is what got the Berlin wall down. Not some twitter temper tantrum and always playing a victim. When did the Repiblican party become so liberal in that regard? It is pathetic. Birtherism boy Trump can't hold Reagan's jock strap.

Your whole 1st paragraph is wrong. I think Trump is a great president and not just the lesser evil. Yes I'm good with being done since I answer your questions but you don't answer mine.
 

52520Andrew

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Your whole 1st paragraph is wrong. I think Trump is a great president and not just the lesser evil. Yes I'm good with being done since I answer your questions but you don't answer mine.

So the second paragraph is spot on then? Also you agree with me in regards to Trump acting like a 5 year old right? Oh nothing in response to those? Look who's talking

As for me, I have more than been accommodating even when you start accusing me of stuff like posting leftist tweets(apparently Trump is a leftist). Just look at the length of some of my posts lol

Maybe if you actually want to argue my point that Trump is a fake I'll stick around. But you aren't even trying to convince me of anything. If you think Trump is so great then you should be trying to convince me of that. I live in a bigger swing state than Maryland and my vote may actually do more good to keep him around than most if that is so important to you.

But the guy became relevant politically over birtherism and yet goes on and on about how he is being treated so unfairly by the media. Like come on
 

Dom McRaven

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FLUCK politics and scummy politicians.

Well mannered enough? lol
No. This was a tasteless comment. I get sick and tired of ppl saying politicians are scummy when.......

......okay you know what? I couldn't type the rest of the comment without saying I'm bullshittin.
 

Willbacker

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So the second paragraph is spot on then? Also you agree with me in regards to Trump acting like a 5 year old right? Oh nothing in response to those? Look who's talking

As for me, I have more than been accommodating even when you start accusing me of stuff like posting leftist tweets(apparently Trump is a leftist). Just look at the length of some of my posts lol

Maybe if you actually want to argue my point that Trump is a fake I'll stick around. But you aren't even trying to convince me of anything. If you think Trump is so great then you should be trying to convince me of that. I live in a bigger swing state than Maryland and my vote may actually do more good to keep him around than most if that is so important to you.

But the guy became relevant politically over birtherism and yet goes on and on about how he is being treated so unfairly by the media. Like come on

Let me tell you something since you seem to be so blind behind your Trump hating sunglasses. If anybody is acting like little whiny babies its the Democrats who cant seem to figger out they lost the election . Wanting to change the electoral college. Needing safe spaces and couldn't get out of bed after the election. Endless hoaxes and investigations. That's just the tip of the iceberg. Even you yourself can only try to find negative things about Trump and post them and say "Look at how offensive he is". What you call crybabying from Trump is him fighting back against constant negative protocol.

Ok about the fake. What is fake? Him lowering taxes for middle class? Helping vets with VA choice? Constantly backing our lawmen? Taking on China? Moving the American embassy to Jerusalem? Taking on illegal immigration? Everything he said on the campaign trail he has tried to do. Succeded in some. Hasn't been able to gain traction on others cuz of Congress ( a lot cuz of Paul Ryan ). When it comes to Israel and China a bunch of presidents before Trump said they was gonna do these things. They haven't.

When it comes to down the middle Trump is! Lets point out on the Repub side some of these supposedly down the middle guys. McCain gave the glorious I'm gonna be the last guy to vote on the skinny health care reform plan then waddled up and gave a thumbs down even tho while Obama was in office he was all for repealing Obamacare. Yeah strong man when he knew it was gonna be vetoed anyways but different tune when somebody would sign it. That's fake!! Did he do that for the people or did he do it just to stick it to Trump? Hiow bout Mitt Romney. Always undermining and making a fake twitter account to bash Trump bigtime under disguise. Trump backed hin during his campaign and then was given the cold shoulder. Pretty despicable Pierre Delecto. And Paul Ryan ( Mr Open Borders) who never seemed to want to bring nothing up in the house when it came to anything about illegal immigration. Just paid politicians who didn't do jackshit. All promises. No action!!!

Trump's approval rating are in the mid 40's. Congress is around 13%.

If you constantly want to keep on saying I have to bring up the Dems/left I have to. Look at them. Green New Deal. Medicare for All including illegals. UBI. That's just the tip again. Everything there is more govt control. That's just a fact. Not saying you're for that stuff. Just the reason I bring them up.

Now you tell me the fake stuff about Trump since you're claiming he's a leftist but to me has also shown conservative values which sounds down the middle to me.
 

Willbacker

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No. This was a tasteless comment. I get sick and tired of ppl saying politicians are scummy when.......

......okay you know what? I couldn't type the rest of the comment without saying I'm bullshittin.

When you look at what goes on and has been exposed saying politicians being scummy is being too nice imo lol. We have a non politician as pres who's doing his damndest to get things done but people clamor for socialism instead of relying on themselves. Go figger.
 
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