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Dom McRaven

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I've never even heard of that guy lol
He usually serves as a backup when the main two aren't on. Former NBA player, but holy shit, he has some of the ABSOLUTE WORST takes possible. Type in "ryan hollins saying dumb stuff" on YouTube. You'll see a 10-min and a THIRTY-min clip of the stuff he has said over the months. He's basura.....
 

rossihunter2

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Is it safe to say that andrews possibly struggle with drops?

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i do not see Mark Andrews anywhere on this list
 

JoeyFlex5

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i do not see Mark Andrews anywhere on this list
I think the andrews drops thing is totally overblown. It’s not that he drops it often, it’s that when he does drop a catchable ball it feels crucial, he dropped a few conversions and at least 1 sure TD and possibly more that I can’t recall, he’s still an elite TE, one of the best separators in the league, one of the most natural catchers in the league, he’s a straight up dog, and also a bit of a freak of nature.

I still can’t understand what the hell made him fall to the third round...
 

rossihunter2

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I think the andrews drops thing is totally overblown. It’s not that he drops it often, it’s that when he does drop a catchable ball it feels crucial, he dropped a few conversions and at least 1 sure TD and possibly more that I can’t recall, he’s still an elite TE, one of the best separators in the league, one of the most natural catchers in the league, he’s a straight up dog, and also a bit of a freak of nature.

I still can’t understand what the hell made him fall to the third round...

i dont disagree with that - but partly that's because with the low volume passing attack we have - more of the passes we throw to him seem crucial

and looking at "elite" TEs look who was top of the list lol
 

JoeyFlex5

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i dont disagree with that - but partly that's because with the low volume passing attack we have - more of the passes we throw to him seem crucial

and looking at "elite" TEs look who was top of the list lol
Exactly.

and there’s also nothing to suggest that andrews drops would extrapolate with more volume, considering he was force fed the ball for 2 seasons and basically nobody else was even bothered with targets, if any player has a normal receiving volume in Baltimore it’s andrews
 

rossihunter2

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Exactly.

and there’s also nothing to suggest that andrews drops would extrapolate with more volume, considering he was force fed the ball for 2 seasons and basically nobody else was even bothered with targets, if any player has a normal receiving volume in Baltimore it’s andrews

i think part of it is also a bit of a misconception - not every incompletion is a drop - there are a few plays that people keep saying are Andrews drops that were just good plays by the DB to break it up at the catch point - they're plays you'd hope Andrews can make but they're not drops...
 

JoeyFlex5

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i think part of it is also a bit of a misconception - not every incompletion is a drop - there are a few plays that people keep saying are Andrews drops that were just good plays by the DB to break it up at the catch point - they're plays you'd hope Andrews can make but they're not drops...
Yup, nobody ever wants to give the defender credit, they’d rather trash their own guy, and that’s what I don’t get lol. Andrews has been nothing shy of elite for 2 years and as a rookie most people pretty much began to assume andrews was gonna be a star.

I’m still appalled at the poll results of Mark vs Zeus
 
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rossihunter2

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Yup, nobody ever wants to give the defender credit, they’d rather trash their own guy, and that’s what I don’t get lol. Andrews has been nothing shy of elite for 2 years and as a rookie most people pretty much began to assume andrews was gonna be a star.

I’m still appalled at the poll results of Mark vs Zeus

but that's not a devaluing of Mark, that's about the amount of respect and credit due to Orlando - it's not about mark not being good it's about Orlando being great
 
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Deebo813

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I think the andrews drops thing is totally overblown. It’s not that he drops it often, it’s that when he does drop a catchable ball it feels crucial, he dropped a few conversions and at least 1 sure TD and possibly more that I can’t recall, he’s still an elite TE, one of the best separators in the league, one of the most natural catchers in the league, he’s a straight up dog, and also a bit of a freak of nature.

I still can’t understand what the hell made him fall to the third round...
I actually liked him over hurst and said it often here.. maybe its cause he was the only tight end i know lol but he used to straight up kill zones in college
 

JoeyFlex5

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I actually liked him over hurst and said it often here.. maybe its cause he was the only tight end i know lol but he used to straight up kill zones in college
I went on record HARD saying andrews would bring the ravens the biggest possible upgrade of any player available to us in the mid first. He was a top 20 talent to me and leading up to the draft I thought there was no shot at James, edmunds, or Ridley, andrews was my top choice after them.
 

JoeyFlex5

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but that's not a devaluing of Mark, that's about the amount of respect and credit due to Orlando - it's not about mark not being good it's about Orlando being great
Only I don’t see how Orlando can be considered a better or more valuable or more rare type of player, I think Orlando is a classic 80/20 guy, he’s our RT because our LT is better and if we had any sense we would tag and trade after this year and get a first because he’s clearly proven to be a starting LT worth the tag, but our LT is just better and RTs are replaceable and simply don’t hold the same value as a guy like andrews who is frequently on some telepathic shit with our qb and makes jaw dropping catches frequently.

and I don’t wanna diminish what browns done, he’s been an absolute steal and I’m gonna be really sad to see him go, but I can’t even fathom the thought of retaining brown over andrews lol, like it’s not even a consideration for me
 
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