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2021 General Draft Thoughts

JoeyFlex5

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Davesta said:
Being from the west coast, I usually view all the football games via stream links. Probably do the same for draft day.

tag / DM me draft day and I’ll give you a link.

just won’t know if the stream will be the NFL network or ESPNs
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Truth

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rossihunter2 said:
my issue with milton williams is im not sure what to do with him positionally - feels like a true tweener - it helps that he's super athletic but just not sure about him as an edge, and definitely not sure about him as a full time interior DL

Darden's got amazing short area quickness

osa odighizuwa i see somewhat similarly to williams - a bit undersized to the extent that im not sure he gets on the field as a raven

Tremble's intriguing - great blocker, has the athleticism to develop as a route-runner and pass catcher but supremely raw as a receiver

Bynum's the rare high floor, low ceiling CB - really good work in press, especially off the line, lacks the long speed and dynamic twitch but very calm and patient and in control

Rashad Weaver's got some surprising bend and some inside/outside versatility that works in his favour - more refined than some of the guys who'll go ahead of him

i've not watched any of jonathan marshall

Alim McNeill is amazing

i've not watched tre walker
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The tweener label is an appropriate one for Milton, I agree. He won't be for everyone, and he could use general refinement regardless of where he plays. That said, he has experience everywhere, lining up outside of the OT on most of his 2019 snaps, and bouncing between 1T and 5T in 2020. I don't know if he's best suited for edge, despite the outrage workout numbers: 4.62, 34 reps, 38.5 inch vertical and a 6.93 cone. But I do think he could play a similar role to Derek Wolfe. They're similar in size as well, being 1 inch and 6 lbs apart.

Darden is one of the most exciting watches in this entire class. Violent cuts and an underrated catch radius. He's a question mark on contested catches. But the fact that he had zero of them despite being 5th in the class in 20+ yard gains shows the separation he was able to attain.

Odighizuwa's wrestling background consistently shows on tape. I'm unsure of his ceiling and proper fit, but I like his floor.

Agreed wholeheartedly on Tremble.

Agreed on the assessment regarding his skillset. That said, I'm high on Bynum's potential. What he did against Luke Falk years ago is burned into my memory. I would not be surprised if he becomes a quality starting corner. However, I am worried about his ability in man coverage given how he fared at the Senior Bowl. So I am somewhat tempering my expectations.

Agreed on Weaver as well. I have a significant amount of question marks on this edge class, and Weaver is among my more intriguing options. However, he does lack explosion and I wonder how much this will affect him in the pros, i.e. a Derek Barnett. Don't doubt his ability to be effective though, and I would not mind him in Day 2.

I've only started watching Marshall today and have seen nothing but highlights and his impressive Pro Day. But boy, he was in the backfield a lot for a player his size.

Agreed on McNeill.

Walker is a deep sleeper of mine. Not a lot of tape on him out there.
 
JoeyFlex5

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Truth said:
Absolutely agreed. Surprised they aren't more often discussed.
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Yup, Felton looked like the best route runner at the senior bowl, which was chock full of quality route runners.

shi smith is another who doesn’t get discussed enough, I think he has elite catching ability and separation ability
 
rossihunter2

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Truth said:
The tweener label is an appropriate one for Milton, I agree. He won't be for everyone, and he could use general refinement regardless of where he plays. That said, he has experience everywhere, lining up outside of the OT on most of his 2019 snaps, and bouncing between 1T and 5T in 2020. I don't know if he's best suited for edge, despite the outrage workout numbers: 4.62, 34 reps, 38.5 inch vertical and a 6.93 cone. But I do think he could play a similar role to Derek Wolfe. They're similar in size as well, being 1 inch and 6 lbs apart.

Darden is one of the most exciting watches in this entire class. Violent cuts and an underrated catch radius. He's a question mark on contested catches. But the fact that he had zero of them despite being 5th in the class in 20+ yard gains shows the separation he was able to attain.

Odighizuwa's wrestling background consistently shows on tape. I'm unsure of his ceiling and proper fit, but I like his floor.

Agreed wholeheartedly on Tremble.

Agreed on the assessment regarding his skillset. That said, I'm high on Bynum's potential. What he did against Luke Falk years ago is burned into my memory. I would not be surprised if he becomes a quality starting corner. However, I am worried about his ability in man coverage given how he fared at the Senior Bowl. So I am somewhat tempering my expectations.

Agreed on Weaver as well. I have a significant amount of question marks on this edge class, and Weaver is among my more intriguing options. However, he does lack explosion and I wonder how much this will affect him in the pros, i.e. a Derek Barnett. Don't doubt his ability to be effective though, and I would not mind him in Day 2.

I've only started watching Marshall today and have seen nothing but highlights and his impressive Pro Day. But boy, he was in the backfield a lot for a player his size.

Agreed on McNeill.

Walker is a deep sleeper of mine. Not a lot of tape on him out there.
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darden is a ton of fun - when i first watched him i'd watched a ton of smaller quicker slot types just before him and they were getting hard to differentiate - then in he strolls and he popped off the screen - he looked tiny but those movement skills (stop-start ability) was insane - he, rondale moore and jaylen waddle really standout among the truly little guys in the class as athletic freaks
 
rossihunter2

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JoeyFlex5 said:
Yup, Felton looked like the best route runner at the senior bowl, which was chock full of quality route runners.

shi smith is another who doesn’t get discussed enough, I think he has elite catching ability and separation ability
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i think he gets lost in the class because he's converting position and the class isn't exactly short of slot receivers with both production and traits
 
Davesta

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Anyone be thinking to themselves: “Man, we got a lot of picks.” ... when doing these mock drafts? Lol

who’s a better overall OL prospect?

AVT or Jenkins?

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Simba

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JoeyFlex5 said:
Eh, Wyatt Hubert to me looks like the stereotype round 7 unathletic white guy with a motor, the scooby wright edge rusher
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Okay I literally have never heard of Wyatt Hubert until today but I could have told you that was his profile based on his name alone.
 
Simba

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Davesta said:
Anyone be thinking to themselves: “Man, we got a lot of picks.” ... when doing these mock drafts? Lol

who’s a better overall OL prospect?

AVT or Jenkins?

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The lot of picks thing is interesting. We definitely have a bunch of needs and could use them, but every time I do one of these with trades I start to struggle toward the end. 8-9 should be the sweet spot, with an understanding that the last 1-2 picks are shots in the dark that might not make the roster.
 
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