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Oh so 3yrs ago.. gotcha lol
It’s a lot better than 2007 and 2008 lolOh so 3yrs ago.. gotcha lol
It's been a while and I don't expect him to make it in Baltimore. I just believe he will be much better and on par with OBJ. I don't see him going to the pro bowl.When did he make probowl?
It's been a while and I don't expect him to make it in Baltimore. I just believe he will be much better and on par with OBJ. I don't see him going to the pro bowl.
Just going off of some reps I saw from him last season, I joined in on this topic less than 24 hours after watching a long montage of Steelers poor pass blocking reps, and AV had some really piss poor snaps in there, it was fresh in my mind so I gave my input lol. He was just so overmatched athletically, I never saw OBJ look as inferior athletically, at least in the past 2 years, as what I saw in some of AV’s more ugly reps. When talking grades, you have to keep in mind that the Steelers OL was pass blocking for 3 step drops and quick releases all year, they weren’t asked to hold up much in the passing game.Thank you, that’s the point. For as much flack AV gets in some circles, he’s graded pretty dang even with the overrated OBJ
Just going off of some reps I saw from him last season, I joined in on this topic less than 24 hours after watching a long montage of Steelers poor pass blocking reps, and AV had some really piss poor snaps in there, it was fresh in my mind so I gave my input lol. He was just so overmatched athletically, I never saw OBJ look as inferior athletically, at least in the past 2 years, as what I saw in some of AV’s more ugly reps. When talking grades, you have to keep in mind that the Steelers OL was pass blocking for 3 step drops and quick releases all year, they weren’t asked to hold up much in the passing game.
barring some kind of big comeback season due to new coaching/environment/playbook, I’d say we took a pretty steep downgrade.
Fair point, I do imagine he’s better than fluker and phillipsYou at least can’t tell me he’s a steep downgrade from what we had at RT after Brown moved over. Also remember that our system usually makes OL look better than they really are, or might be in a standard passing offense
Fair point, I do imagine he’s better than fluker and phillips
I do keep forgetting that we didn’t have Orlando at RT most of last yearYeah, no one should expect AV to be great here, but as long as he's better than the revolving door that we had at RT last year then we should be fine. After this year, we can switch to James and/or try to draft a replacement.
I do keep forgetting that we didn’t have Orlando at RT most of last year
Just going off of some reps I saw from him last season, I joined in on this topic less than 24 hours after watching a long montage of Steelers poor pass blocking reps, and AV had some really piss poor snaps in there, it was fresh in my mind so I gave my input lol. He was just so overmatched athletically, I never saw OBJ look as inferior athletically, at least in the past 2 years, as what I saw in some of AV’s more ugly reps. When talking grades, you have to keep in mind that the Steelers OL was pass blocking for 3 step drops and quick releases all year, they weren’t asked to hold up much in the passing game.
barring some kind of big comeback season due to new coaching/environment/playbook, I’d say we took a pretty steep downgrade.
You're comparing him to OBJ. How does he compare to whoever we had lining up at RT last year?
Yeah that’s been addressed lolYou're comparing him to OBJ. How does he compare to whoever we had lining up at RT last year?
Just going off of some reps I saw from him last season, I joined in on this topic less than 24 hours after watching a long montage of Steelers poor pass blocking reps, and AV had some really piss poor snaps in there, it was fresh in my mind so I gave my input lol. He was just so overmatched athletically, I never saw OBJ look as inferior athletically, at least in the past 2 years, as what I saw in some of AV’s more ugly reps. When talking grades, you have to keep in mind that the Steelers OL was pass blocking for 3 step drops and quick releases all year, they weren’t asked to hold up much in the passing game.
barring some kind of big comeback season due to new coaching/environment/playbook, I’d say we took a pretty steep downgrade.
i think there are 2 distinct statements you can make - AV is significantly worse than OBJ but the OL is likely to look a lot better as a whole than it did towards the end of last year when the RT spot was a literal week-to-week turnstile with Orlando playing LT
“Significantly” is a strong word but tbh I’m not sure it’s the wrong word either. AV is nowhere near the player Orlando is, right now at least. He’s not consistently a liability, but man AV has ugly plays on film that you just would never see from Orlando.Absolutely not significantly worse, but aight we’ll go with it
“Significantly” is a strong word but tbh I’m not sure it’s the wrong word either. AV is nowhere near the player Orlando is, right now at least. He’s not consistently a liability, but man AV has ugly plays on film that you just would never see from Orlando.
Again, different systems and different blocking types. Steelers passed a LOT last year. Who’s to say Orlando won’t do worse in a standard offense, especially one that emphasizes the pass like the Chiefs do. And Lamar made that line look much better than it actually was
steelers also got the ball out quicker than any other team in the league last year - they weren't pass protecting for long
Steelers get rid of the ball faster than any team in nfl history. No double clutching, no moving around or scrambling, just snap - step - throw. Lamar can and will consistently extend the play, so it may not result in an increase in sacks given up, but it will almost certainly cause an increase in pressures given up compared to AV in 2020, when Lamar is flushed or forced to scramble, that’s a pressure, and where Ben was already releasing before the pressure arrived, Lamar would be rolling out, one because Lamar is able and Ben wasn’t, and two because the nature of the Steelers offense compared to ours.Again, different systems and different blocking types. Steelers passed a LOT last year. Who’s to say Orlando won’t do worse in a standard offense, especially one that emphasizes the pass like the Chiefs do. And Lamar made that line look much better than it actually was