QuothTheRaven
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Also think having a guy like Houston is massive for Oweh's development so it's great from that angle too.
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The Oweh, The INT and THE OMG WE DID IT!!!
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Tank
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Consistency. When I think of a player getting top of the heap money that player has consistently performed at a high level for a couple of years anyway.
QuothTheRaven
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he was never my pass rushing hope lol - but he is a defensive weapon - not paid close attention to him in coverage but i dont think ive seen him beat in coverage yet - that's where he's awesome
had a nice rush around the edge vs Orlando and is playing similar snaps to Oweh and Houston
it's clearly those 3 who are the "starters" with mcphee and ferguson and hayes as rotational guys
havent started watching the coaches film yet but you already saw him starting to use inside counters on Sunday Night which he didnt seem to have on Monday Night - and it was something that Houston and Calais have both talked to him about in training camp... about how he's so gifted athletically that OTs are gonna be terrified of his speed outside so if he can develop a counter e.g. speed-to-power or an inside move (and we've seen him try a spin a couple of times) then he'll be lethal vs oversetting tackles
and you can see the time that oweh's put in after practice with Houston taking effect already - Oweh's showed us since we drafted him how intelligent and cerebral he is and he's learning stuff and putting it into practice so fast
hollywood had a frustrating stretch in the middle of the year last year but he's consistently turned up for us in playoff games and other big matchups
and he's got time to prove that consistency to us anyway - he's got nearly 3 whole seasons before the end of his 5th year option
it's more than just not resetting the market. Ever since EDC became manager, the Ravens have been great at structuring contracts that benefit the team long term.
Not the question, but I feel it's very unlikely we let Hollywood get away. just like Andrews, Hollywood has great chemistry and even though Hollywood hasn't had a full offseason in his three years in the league, do to how close he and Lamar live in the offseason, they get together and work out quite a bit.
There is no question that he will and has already helped Oweh's development and I'm sure it helps Hayes also. He has already stayed after practice with him, prior to the season.
lots of guaranteed money which means you have to have those guys on the field but that's not dissimilar to other big money players not playing in other situations though
we've seen him give up guaranteed money to allow for lower cap hits and lower aav
JoeyFlex5
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Looks like he’s being used as a pass rusher far too often… again.
I can’t confirm this though, I just know when I watch live I see him rushing A LOT and he doesn’t even sniff the qb.
i dont think they were even able to work out together this offseason because of the covid rules and lamar being unvaxxed the whole of the offseason
but yeah i think their chemistry makes him more valuable to the ravens than elsewhere
he rinsed orlando round the edge on at least 1 rush i noticed during the broadcast - and i saw him dropping a ton in week 1 - think his usage was probably more straightforward this week because of the simplicity of the rush scheme and lack of deceptive blitzes/stunts/crowding the line etc.
If he prices himself into that 15+m range I have to imagine letting him walk becomes possible. You have to let someone walk considering the trenches need to be built up.
rmcjacket23
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Maybe. The trenches are likely to be built up via the draft, however. I would imagine pretty much any additions we make on the offensive and defensive lines in the next 2-3 years of note are going to come via the draft.
Not sure where Hollywood would fall in on the priority list at this point, especially after we drafted Bateman. He's still under team control for 3 more years (including 2021) with the 5th year option available in 2023.
I don't see us building the offensive line any differently than we have in the past and that is through the draft. Yes we may have a 2nd round pick used on the offensive line, but again it's a draft pick.
I mean the Ravens signed Zeitler to start on the OL and both Cambell and Wolf for the D. They are clearly not averse to spending money in the trenches, but it is just rare that good deals for those positions appear. However, I do not think Cambell lasts beyond this year and there are some holes on the OLine to plug and the Ravens are not typically a team to trust that they can find a 2nd or 3rd round player to start without real competition at the position.
This is correct, but we also were on the rookie contract. Wolfe isn't an expensive contract and Zeitler is a pretty reasonable contract for the caliber player he is also. We will occasionally sign a bigger contract now and again, but we will most likely have to build through the draft with Jackson's contract on the horizon. That being said I'm not saying we won't make the signing here and again.