Lamar Jackson

[rossihunter2]

That's the thing though, I don't know if he's even a decent backup. I have no interest in putting people down, especially our own guys. I'm almost always the kind of person who gives the benefit of the doubt/Homer's a guy who I shouldn't a la James Proche for years now.

Anyway, this is just a guess because I'm just some guy and don't know anything. Huntley only looked ok in the bears and Browns games. In both of those games the other team was prepared for a Lamar Jackson offense and there was no tape on Huntley. With each successive week where the opponent had more understanding of what a Tyler Huntley offense could do, he was basically shut down altogether ESPECIALLY in the redzone.

By the end there he was playing awful against an awful team. People are just so high on him and I can't see him as anything other than a backup that won't embarrass you, but you'll probably lose 9 out of 10 games with.

Maybe that's all you can ask for out of a backup QB in the NFL. I could accept that, it's hard to win with your staring QB. But to say move on from Lamar for Huntley is the kind of stuff that makes me mad because for the same reason you say don't rag on your own players, it's just so disrespectful to LJ

im not sure - i think huntley's fine right now as the backup

in my view the backup's someone who should be able to keep the offence on track and on schedule when the starter's out to keep the team in games and help talent perform and help the team survive the starter's absence for a couple or a few weeks

huntley was hamstrung by the injuries in the same ways as lamar and because of that we had no chance of winning with lamar out because huntley's job is to allow the rest of the team to continue performing but the rest of the team was also struggling because of the injuries and other absences so suddenly he's in a position where he has to try and carry the team more than you'd want for a backup

so id say the jury's still out on huntley - no idea if with a better OL he might have been able to do more in the redzone but he's certainly not someone who can overcome deficiencies (and tbf that's not what we should expect from a backup)

 

[UPennChem]

im not sure - i think huntley's fine right now as the backup

in my view the backup's someone who should be able to keep the offence on track and on schedule when the starter's out to keep the team in games and help talent perform and help the team survive the starter's absence for a couple or a few weeks

huntley was hamstrung by the injuries in the same ways as lamar and because of that we had no chance of winning with lamar out because huntley's job is to allow the rest of the team to continue performing but the rest of the team was also struggling because of the injuries and other absences so suddenly he's in a position where he has to try and carry the team more than you'd want for a backup

so id say the jury's still out on huntley - no idea if with a better OL he might have been able to do more in the redzone but he's certainly not someone who can overcome deficiencies (and tbf that's not what we should expect from a backup)

I really do believe this is a fair take.

 

[ndub]

This fanbase is so damn weird… we go from certain few who calls Huntley a better option than Lamar to questioning his fit as a backup completely in a matter of one or maybe two weeks hahaha….. can’t make this stuff up

 

[BoredMarine13]

That's the thing though, I don't know if he's even a decent backup. I have no interest in putting people down, especially our own guys. I'm almost always the kind of person who gives the benefit of the doubt/Homer's a guy who I shouldn't a la James Proche for years now.

Anyway, this is just a guess because I'm just some guy and don't know anything. Huntley only looked ok in the bears and Browns games. In both of those games the other team was prepared for a Lamar Jackson offense and there was no tape on Huntley. With each successive week where the opponent had more understanding of what a Tyler Huntley offense could do, he was basically shut down altogether ESPECIALLY in the redzone.

By the end there he was playing awful against an awful team. People are just so high on him and I can't see him as anything other than a backup that won't embarrass you, but you'll probably lose 9 out of 10 games with.

Maybe that's all you can ask for out of a backup QB in the NFL. I could accept that, it's hard to win with your staring QB. But to say move on from Lamar for Huntley is the kind of stuff that makes me mad because for the same reason you say don't rag on your own players, it's just so disrespectful to LJ

I think it’s important to remember Huntley only has 3 starts under his belt. But your right people really overreacted to his performances in Cleveland/ GB. A large part of that was due to Lamar struggling. As fans were always looking for a reason why or someone to blame. In this case why the offense was so terrible in recent weeks. I think we were so desperate for a solid offensive outing people overreacted and naturally started asking why Lamar wasn’t doing the same. Even though he was earlier in the year. At the end of the day we’re screwed ,regardless of the back up , if Lamar misses significant time.


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[rossihunter2]

This fanbase is so damn weird… we go from certain few who calls Huntley a better option than Lamar to questioning his fit as a backup completely in a matter of one or maybe two weeks hahaha….. can’t make this stuff up

well idk about you but when more evidence presents itself, i dont ignore it...

not saying for sure 1 way or the other but have the last few weeks not made you re-evaluate huntley at all as a backup?

 

[UPennChem]

I think it’s important to remember Huntley only has 3 starts under his belt. But your right people really overreacted to his performances in Cleveland/ GB. A large part of that was due to Lamar struggling. As fans were always looking for a reason why or someone to blame. In this case why the offense was so terrible in recent weeks. I think we were so desperate for a solid offensive outing people overreacted and naturally started asking why Lamar wasn’t doing the same. Even though he was earlier in the year. At the end of the day we’re screwed ,regardless of the back up , if Lamar misses significant time.


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I hear ya. At the end of the day your last sentence is the only thing that matters. Gotta try and keep the man healthy. For the most part he has been. Knock on wood.

 

[RL52TheGreatest]

im not sure - i think huntley's fine right now as the backup

in my view the backup's someone who should be able to keep the offence on track and on schedule when the starter's out to keep the team in games and help talent perform and help the team survive the starter's absence for a couple or a few weeks

huntley was hamstrung by the injuries in the same ways as lamar and because of that we had no chance of winning with lamar out because huntley's job is to allow the rest of the team to continue performing but the rest of the team was also struggling because of the injuries and other absences so suddenly he's in a position where he has to try and carry the team more than you'd want for a backup

so id say the jury's still out on huntley - no idea if with a better OL he might have been able to do more in the redzone but he's certainly not someone who can overcome deficiencies (and tbf that's not what we should expect from a backup)

Yeah, I think Huntley has shown that he can run the offense fairly well as a backup and that's all you can really ask for when your star player goes down. You just need a backup who can manage the game, make a few plays here and there, and not turn the ball over. If we still had JK and/or Gus out there to carry the offensive load then I think Huntley would have been able to lead us to a few more victories, but this team was just too ravaged with injuries.

 

[UPennChem]

well idk about you but when more evidence presents itself, i dont ignore it...

not saying for sure 1 way or the other but have the last few weeks not made you re-evaluate huntley at all as a backup?

Right lol. Obviously that post is about me. You made a good point that we haven't seen Huntley in ideal conditions to know for sure, but he's been pretty darn bad in bad conditions. I think based on that you gotta give him the benefit of the doubt as the players and coaches like him, he knows the system, has some experience now, can get better etc. He's just not some elite QB2 that's gonna get you a first round pick and he's not the answer over Lamar.

 

[ndub]

well idk about you but when more evidence presents itself, i dont ignore it...

not saying for sure 1 way or the other but have the last few weeks not made you re-evaluate huntley at all as a backup?

Not at all. Not only have injuries screwed him, but you also gotta remember Roman holds any of the QBs back, Lamar or otherwise. I never thought he was the best option over Lamar either so I didn’t have the top notch thoughts anyway in the first place. A backup is meant to come in one or two times during the year, ideally when the games are wrapped up.

 

[ndub]

Right lol. Obviously that post is about me. You made a good point that we haven't seen Huntley in ideal conditions to know for sure, but he's been pretty darn bad in bad conditions. I think based on that you gotta give him the benefit of the doubt as the players and coaches like him, he knows the system, has some experience now, can get better etc. He's just not some elite QB2 that's gonna get you a first round pick and he's not the answer over Lamar.

Unless you thought he was a better option than Lamar, my post was never about you. Ever.

 

[UPennChem]

Unless you thought he was a better option than Lamar, my post was never about you. Ever.

I hear you, I was just the most recent one to question Huntley as even a back up lol. That was a bit much I have to admit

 

[rossihunter2]

Yeah, I think Huntley has shown that he can run the offense fairly well as a backup and that's all you can really ask for when your star player goes down. You just need a backup who can manage the game, make a few plays here and there, and not turn the ball over. If we still had JK and/or Gus out there to carry the offensive load then I think Huntley would have been able to lead us to a few more victories, but this team was just too ravaged with injuries.

im not sure - he's run it to the degree that the offence didnt break with huntley in there

but also worth pointing out that the offence did have to shrink and contract to accommodate his limitations which significantly reduced his ability to get our playmakers involved - because the easiest way for a backup QB to keep an offence on track when the starter's out is to get the ball into the hands of your weapons and huntley couldnt consistently do that in a way that allowed those guys to make plays because defences were able to constrict us into an almost entirely short passing attack

you're right though that the best way to support a backup QB is to have an impactful ground game which we also dont have

i guess all im saying is that huntley has done fine and certainly put out a good impression of himself but he's certainly not shown enough that we wouldnt or shouldnt be looking to find someone better to backup lamar... he's no tyrod

 

[ndub]

im not sure - he's run it to the degree that the offence didnt break with huntley in there

but also worth pointing out that the offence did have to shrink and contract to accommodate his limitations which significantly reduced his ability to get our playmakers involved - because the easiest way for a backup QB to keep an offence on track when the starter's out is to get the ball into the hands of your weapons and huntley couldnt consistently do that in a way that allowed those guys to make plays because defences were able to constrict us into an almost entirely short passing attack

you're right though that the best way to support a backup QB is to have an impactful ground game which we also dont have

i guess all im saying is that huntley has done fine and certainly put out a good impression of himself but he's certainly not shown enough that we wouldnt or shouldnt be looking to find someone better to backup lamar... he's no tyrod

Tyrod as a backup is few and far between, and I’d hope you know that

 

[rossihunter2]

Not at all. Not only have injuries screwed him, but you also gotta remember Roman holds any of the QBs back, Lamar or otherwise. I never thought he was the best option over Lamar either so I didn’t have the top notch thoughts anyway in the first place. A backup is meant to come in one or two times during the year, ideally when the games are wrapped up.

i guess i disagree with you there

the backup's primary job isnt to finish games off - their primary job is to keep the team on track if the starter has to miss time

if they cant tide you over and win you games when your starter's out then there's not much point in them being there

 

[rossihunter2]

Tyrod as a backup is few and far between, and I’d hope you know that

i mean is he?

tyrod
minshew
keenum
heinicke
mariota
brissett
mccoy
dalton
lock

and im not even including lance or someone like that

not saying these guys are just hanging on trees but it's not difficult to improve your backup situation if you're willing - the ravens just typically have not invested in that spot with cap space or draft picks

 

[Tank]

I really don’t understand all of the scrutiny and criticism of Huntley. Outside of this place it’s pretty much the consensus he performed admirably in what was the toughest of situations for an inexperienced QB to be placed. Not sure why we can’t just be happy for him rather than pointing to every little flaw in what seems to be an attempt to defend Lamar. It’s my hope he remains the backup as he at the least can keep us competitive in relief.

 

[jboy19]

I really don’t understand all of the scrutiny and criticism of Huntley. Outside of this place it’s pretty much the consensus he performed admirably in what was the toughest of situations for an inexperienced QB to be placed. Not sure why we can’t just be happy for him rather than pointing to every little flaw in what seems to be an attempt to defend Lamar. It’s my hope he remains the backup as he at the least can keep us competitive in relief.

I was pretty upset with a lot of his bad decisions yesterday (as I think most people were), and the offense has struggled a lot in the red zone with him at the helm. It's hard for me to tell how much the offense is limited by him/other injuries/Roman being Roman. But at the end of the day, I think it's hard to argue he should be replaced. Expectations were probably higher for him than they should have been all things considered. He's a good scheme fit and has enough experience in the system that he should hang around at least until he hits unrestricted free agency.

 

[ndub]

I really don’t understand all of the scrutiny and criticism of Huntley. Outside of this place it’s pretty much the consensus he performed admirably in what was the toughest of situations for an inexperienced QB to be placed. Not sure why we can’t just be happy for him rather than pointing to every little flaw in what seems to be an attempt to defend Lamar. It’s my hope he remains the backup as he at the least can keep us competitive in relief.

“we need him to win all those games- or look like a star doing so”

 

[Tank]

I was pretty upset with a lot of his bad decisions yesterday (as I think most people were), and the offense has struggled a lot in the red zone with him at the helm. It's hard for me to tell how much the offense is limited by him/other injuries/Roman being Roman. But at the end of the day, I think it's hard to argue he should be replaced. Expectations were probably higher for him than they should have been all things considered. He's a good scheme fit and has enough experience in the system that he should hang around at least until he hits unrestricted free agency.

A few plays made by others and the day would have looked much different.

 

[rossihunter2]

A few plays made by others and the day would have looked much different.

i mean so would huntley just taking what was there like the int to andrews in the endzone when his first read was open for an easy td