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Lamar Jackson
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fall from grace. A few weeks ago, people were giving him the yellow jacket.
UPennChem
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Everything you're saying is true though. Young, inexperienced, UDFA, terrible line, etc. That doesn't mean he didn't play poorly though. As I said earlier, I think I was too harsh on him because of these things. God forbid Lamar is hurt again, but if he is, I'd like to see Huntley in action during not so horrible of circumstances. With a healthy team around him, that would give us the data as to whether or not he should be the long term backup.
Tank
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what "people"? lol Never did read any of that. I did read a lot of stuff where people were happy for him, being a UDFA and all.
Whether you like it or not the kid did remarkably well in some extremely tough situations, showed a lot of poise and intelligence. He's hardly "fall(en) from grace"
I'm exaggerating and it wasn't on this board where people were calling for him to take over as starter.
Huntley is more than fine as a backup. Despite whatever flaws he has... he did his job which was to come in and keep us competitive. If Lamar has to miss 3 or 4 games next year and I have to watch Huntley start, I have no problems with that. But I see 0 evidence in his play that he's a long term starter here or anywhere in the league.
it's missing this pretty important quote from huntley:
where he says he saw it and decided the open receiver was not open - basically didnt trust himself to get the ball over the underneath defender to his first read who was wide open to the pylon
ndub
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it's missing this pretty important quote from huntley:
where he says he saw it and decided the open receiver was not open - basically didnt trust himself to get the ball over the underneath defender to his first read who was wide open to the pylon
You’re a funny guy Rossi
Florida Raven Fan
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I think we can all agree and stop the back and forth with the Lamar and Huntley talk. Is Huntley better than Lamar No! Of course not.. Did Lamar suck ass in the second half of season yes...... Did Huntley play good as the back up yes.... He was better poised, decisive, while Lamar was the one with Happy feet, bad mechanics etc... was it enough to win unfortunately no... Does Lamar need to step up his game in passing heck yeah... we saw some flashes at the beginning of the year... but he needs to be consistent... we all want him to take the next step at passing and IF he does watch out there will be no stopping him....
End of discussion??? Yeah lol
End of discussion??? Yeah lol
Grim
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We could improve on Huntley but he was also a UDFA. As you say, those other guys a few of them were actual draft picks and some high picks at that. Granted, some were high picks YEARS ago but still high picks nevertheless. Their pay is also going to be higher too if they're veterans because even backup QBs don't come cheap. As you said, we just don't really invest there and I wouldn't unless we were stacked on our other spots. Right now, we need all those picks to retool the defense and help the OL. I know you're agreeing here, btw, more adding to the point.
Huntley was OK. He wasn't bad, wasn't great--he was OK. He did what you could hope he would do. He isn't Lamar Jackson and may never be, but we didn't ask him to be either. Not sure why some of the concepts we did with him were never done with Lamar, but that's another topic. I'd keep Huntley unless someone came offering a ridiculous 2nd round pick or something and then it's bye Felicia. Nobody is doing that, though. (don't get your hopes up, people--you know who you are [even if I don't know who you are--I know you are out there lol])
JoeyFlex5
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But trusted himself to get the ball into triple coverage with no velocityit's missing this pretty important quote from huntley:
where he says he saw it and decided the open receiver was not open - basically didnt trust himself to get the ball over the underneath defender to his first read who was wide open to the pylon
like i get it - its different when you see it live and mistakes happen
but we'd be pissed if josh johnson missed that read and made that decision
This is the most confusing part to me.
We need that Drake meme:
"No"- throwing over the flat defender to a wide open touchdown
"Yes"- forcing it into triple coverage.
Edit: here we go- https://imgflip.com/i/60rwqg
I said this many times before-
If the conversation was simply that Huntley played admirably for a backup quarterback who went undrafted, you'd get zero push back. We'd all be like, "Yeah, that's true."
But the conversation didn't stop there.
Instead, a vocal minority that continued to grow started to question Lamar's ability, questioned if there should be a quarterback controversy, questioned whether the pick for Huntley would be a first or a second. I heard so much talk about how Huntley was reading defenses better and making better decisions. He was just so decisive and so certain of the offense.
The fact of the matter is that a portion of the fan base went way overboard and now they're getting absolutely pushed back on, and deservedly so.
Did Huntley play well for an UDFA? Sure. Did Huntley play well enough to vault himself into a starting spot on another team? Almost assuredly not.
And as far as I'm concerned, it's a moot point if he's the backup or not because the fact of the matter is there aren't 32 starting quality quarterbacks in the NFL. If your backup is starting for extended periods of time, you're in trouble no matter who your backup is 99% of the time.
If the conversation was simply that Huntley played admirably for a backup quarterback who went undrafted, you'd get zero push back. We'd all be like, "Yeah, that's true."
But the conversation didn't stop there.
Instead, a vocal minority that continued to grow started to question Lamar's ability, questioned if there should be a quarterback controversy, questioned whether the pick for Huntley would be a first or a second. I heard so much talk about how Huntley was reading defenses better and making better decisions. He was just so decisive and so certain of the offense.
The fact of the matter is that a portion of the fan base went way overboard and now they're getting absolutely pushed back on, and deservedly so.
Did Huntley play well for an UDFA? Sure. Did Huntley play well enough to vault himself into a starting spot on another team? Almost assuredly not.
And as far as I'm concerned, it's a moot point if he's the backup or not because the fact of the matter is there aren't 32 starting quality quarterbacks in the NFL. If your backup is starting for extended periods of time, you're in trouble no matter who your backup is 99% of the time.
anyone have a good clip of the Andrews pick that shows how open Bateman was?
SaltyDog
MVP
Was wondering what happened to Bateman? He had 3 targets, 2 catches early in the game then he disappeared for the rest of the game?
idk that there's anything there lol
if they agreed then we'd already have a deal announced
just means there's still stuff to negotiate - likely contract length, guaranteed money, bonus money, injury guarantees, future roster bonus money, incentives/escalators type stuff
I'd find it hard to believe Qadry is the one that knows anything considering both the Ravens and Lamar's camp have been locked down quiet about everything in his career.