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Lamar Jackson

Simba

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But even if he doesn't have someone in his inner circle, he's never seen all the Allen comps going around? He's never once even compared himself to his to his other class mates? You'd have to be totally oblivious to not know and just stick your head down and keep charging down this path.

Like for real, what has the NFLPA said to him that has come true or been successful so far? In FA t it's all been wrong or unhelpful. So why keep listening?

I mean also it's so simple. Lamar is the only one doing things atraditionally and he's the only one without a contract...
Deshaun Watson happened. That's it. If Watson never happened, he'd probably have signed by now. But when you see a guy with pending legal matters get that much, I don't blame him for trying to get that too. It's become clear that it's an aberration, but he's dug in so deep and has been validated every step along the way that he deserves the same or more from people that he trusts, whether he should or not.
 

UPennChem

Hall of Famer
Deshaun Watson happened. That's it. If Watson never happened, he'd probably have signed by now. But when you see a guy with pending legal matters get that much, I don't blame him for trying to get that too. It's become clear that it's an aberration, but he's dug in so deep and has been validated every step along the way that he deserves the same or more from people that he trusts, whether he should or not.
Fucking Browns
 

gtalk12

Ravens Ring of Honor
49ers should trade Purdy, Lance and a couple of draft picks for him. Lamar with Deebo, CMC, Kittle, Aiyuk, etc. would be stunning.

I can see it now, Purdy on the second drive with a season ending injury.
 

Militant X 1

Ravens Ring of Honor
Deshaun Watson happened. That's it. If Watson never happened, he'd probably have signed by now. But when you see a guy with pending legal matters get that much, I don't blame him for trying to get that too. It's become clear that it's an aberration, but he's dug in so deep and has been validated every step along the way that he deserves the same or more from people that he trusts, whether he should or not.
Me either. I just want them to come to some resolution with Lamar Jackson signed to a long-term deal with the Baltimore Ravens ASAP!
 

drjohnnyfever

Pro Bowler
Deshaun Watson happened. That's it. If Watson never happened, he'd probably have signed by now. But when you see a guy with pending legal matters get that much, I don't blame him for trying to get that too. It's become clear that it's an aberration, but he's dug in so deep and has been validated every step along the way that he deserves the same or more from people that he trusts, whether he should or not.

Fucking Browns

I was not really taken seriously when I suggested that the Rubadub Watson deal the Browns brokered was by design to fuck up our inevitable negotiations with Lamar and complicate the Burrow deal too. I still think they did it because they could screw us with the excessive cap space they had then. It was a smashing success.

Personally, now, I just think the relationship has to end. If Lamar doesn't see that he really was treated fairly by a financially responsible team, that's fine, but he has to admit to himself his errors. Either he plays out the year on the Tag and tears it up to get his value closer to where he wants it, or he sits out and pouts, OR - the thing I'm most concerned about - he plays hard but twists a toe and shuts himself down again crippling the team.

We have to have a bona-fide backup. There's growing suspicion for me where he never plays another game as a Raven again.
 

ravenslord

Ravens Ring of Honor
I was not really taken seriously when I suggested that the Rubadub Watson deal the Browns brokered was by design to fuck up our inevitable negotiations with Lamar and complicate the Burrow deal too. I still think they did it because they could screw us with the excessive cap space they had then. It was a smashing success.

Personally, now, I just think the relationship has to end. If Lamar doesn't see that he really was treated fairly by a financially responsible team, that's fine, but he has to admit to himself his errors. Either he plays out the year on the Tag and tears it up to get his value closer to where he wants it, or he sits out and pouts, OR - the thing I'm most concerned about - he plays hard but twists a toe and shuts himself down again crippling the team.

We have to have a bona-fide backup. There's growing suspicion for me where he never plays another game as a Raven again.
Twisting his toe and shutting it down would be highly likely imo if he plays on the tag.
 

Tank

Hall of Famer
Deshaun Watson happened. That's it. If Watson never happened, he'd probably have signed by now. But when you see a guy with pending legal matters get that much, I don't blame him for trying to get that too. It's become clear that it's an aberration, but he's dug in so deep and has been validated every step along the way that he deserves the same or more from people that he trusts, whether he should or not.

I guess, but an agent would never have expected a Watson deal and could have explained that. All but Lamar and people that supported that idea for him thought there would ever be another Watson deal.
 

drjohnnyfever

Pro Bowler
So here's a question: How do we get compensated without taking two first rounders? If the decision is made to deal him just to get him gone, what do we take that doesn't include two first round picks?

A first next year and tons of 2nd and 3rd rounders for a couple years after? I have no clue. Either way, he has to sign the Tag contract to be able to be traded. I imagine he holds us hostage as long as he can for that. But once done, how fast do we turn around to get him outta here and what do we take to hasten the departure?
 

ravenslord

Ravens Ring of Honor
So here's a question: How do we get compensated without taking two first rounders? If the decision is made to deal him just to get him gone, what do we take that doesn't include two first round picks?

A first next year and tons of 2nd and 3rd rounders for a couple years after? I have no clue. Either way, he has to sign the Tag contract to be able to be traded. I imagine he holds us hostage as long as he can for that. But once done, how fast do we turn around to get him outta here and what do we take to hasten the departure?
And a few months ago i though we could get maybe 3 1st rounders for Lamar. LOL. We will be extremely lucky to get two now after Lamar announced the trade demand. I though he promised to keep the negotiations private?

Other teams are now scared to death to sign him because of his behavior.
 
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