JAAM
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I’m all in on Addison or Flowers. Dream is JSN but he’s won’t make it to us. Of course I thought the same thing about Kyle last year. But yea either Addison or Zay and I’d be absolutely elated
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2023 General Draft Thoughts
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i say again... it's a shame we're not looking for a TE because this TE class is so deep and so talented at the top too
my only hope is that the dearth of depth and talent at WR makes teams re-evaluate some of these TEs as (weapons) and dont worry so much about what kind of receiver they acquire
but there's a bunch of guys in this class of all different types - all highly athletic and highly talented
my only hope is that the dearth of depth and talent at WR makes teams re-evaluate some of these TEs as (weapons) and dont worry so much about what kind of receiver they acquire
but there's a bunch of guys in this class of all different types - all highly athletic and highly talented
Dom McRaven
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I ain't mad at it. CB is more of a need than WR so I get it.
not in love with it, but would be fine with it and understand it for sure
Diaby in the 4th and McBride in the 6th puts it over the top
well im about to have a play around with this for sure
first thing ive noticed so far
the better WR drafting teams have drafted (in the first 3 rounds), players with less ideal testing numbers etc. - obviously this is a very vague set of data to draw conclusions (because averages arent that useful)... for example the ravens edge data is basically useless because we drafted 2 very specific types of EDGE guy for years but they were at opposite ends of the height/weight/speed spectrum so cancel each other out somewhat lol
so for instance, the average weight of a ravens EDGE is 255lbs ish which is funny because for ages the ravens were drafting only guys over 265lbs or under 245lbs lol
the better WR drafting teams have drafted (in the first 3 rounds), players with less ideal testing numbers etc. - obviously this is a very vague set of data to draw conclusions (because averages arent that useful)... for example the ravens edge data is basically useless because we drafted 2 very specific types of EDGE guy for years but they were at opposite ends of the height/weight/speed spectrum so cancel each other out somewhat lol
so for instance, the average weight of a ravens EDGE is 255lbs ish which is funny because for ages the ravens were drafting only guys over 265lbs or under 245lbs lol
keion white's confident he's going day 1 eh?
Definitely an interesting addition. Lots of fun tools but raw as all hell and is already 24.
This is a really interesting draft now that I'm pretty much done all of my film/clip review. One big thing I'm noting this year is the advanced age of a shit ton of guys due to that 6th year of eligibility thanks to covid. It's wild watching a guy, liking him but thinking that he needs to develop, only to find that he's already the same age as some guys with 2-3 years of NFL experience. Keion White is a prime example. Raw as all hell and needs development but is already 24 years old.
Im starting to really like Calijah Kancey. I think he will for sure be a liability in the run game but worth it in the way the league sits right now. Dude could be an abosutle menace - he and queen would be missiles on blitzs
My positional thoughts...
QB: Think we've hit the top guys ad nauseam. Middle rounds have a few long-term backup types but not many translatable skills from the outside of the top 3/4.
RB: Deep in the middle rounds and then drops off considerably.
WR: One, maybe two top end guys and then a bunch of day 2/early day 3 options. Some intriguing guys late with a couple of standout traits but not the complete package.
TE: So deep which is weird to say about TE. There are viable rotational players at a minimum all throughout this draft.
OT: A couple of top end guys and then a bunch of swing Ts. Not a terrible class but also not a great class if you have an immediate need.
iOL: No real top end talent, but a lot of guys that I think could start in this league in time. Another class that's strong in the middle and then fizzles out at the end of day 3.
DL: So many guys with some standout traits that have never put them together in the early-mid rounds. Like some other positions, the drop off is pretty considerable.
Edge: Deep all throughout the draft. Some really good talent on day 1 and day 2. Lots of guys toward the end of the draft that have traits that lead to a rotational role.
LB: A pretty weak class. Even the top guys have questions. Noticed a startling lack of instincts from this group this year. And the ones that have the instincts don't have the physical traits.
CB: So deep. Tons of top end talent. Think there will be guys that go undrafted that would be mid-round picks in a normal year.
S: Nothing spectacular. A few nice options in the middle of the draft but no one that truly stands out.
QB: Think we've hit the top guys ad nauseam. Middle rounds have a few long-term backup types but not many translatable skills from the outside of the top 3/4.
RB: Deep in the middle rounds and then drops off considerably.
WR: One, maybe two top end guys and then a bunch of day 2/early day 3 options. Some intriguing guys late with a couple of standout traits but not the complete package.
TE: So deep which is weird to say about TE. There are viable rotational players at a minimum all throughout this draft.
OT: A couple of top end guys and then a bunch of swing Ts. Not a terrible class but also not a great class if you have an immediate need.
iOL: No real top end talent, but a lot of guys that I think could start in this league in time. Another class that's strong in the middle and then fizzles out at the end of day 3.
DL: So many guys with some standout traits that have never put them together in the early-mid rounds. Like some other positions, the drop off is pretty considerable.
Edge: Deep all throughout the draft. Some really good talent on day 1 and day 2. Lots of guys toward the end of the draft that have traits that lead to a rotational role.
LB: A pretty weak class. Even the top guys have questions. Noticed a startling lack of instincts from this group this year. And the ones that have the instincts don't have the physical traits.
CB: So deep. Tons of top end talent. Think there will be guys that go undrafted that would be mid-round picks in a normal year.
S: Nothing spectacular. A few nice options in the middle of the draft but no one that truly stands out.
JoeyFlex5
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PFN has the shittiest board of all time, it’s really bad.
UPennChem
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PFF is better but still goofy
Interesting seeing some of the draftniks finalizing boards this week and basically saying that the number of players with draftable grades is on the lower side. Based on what I've seen, I don't disagree. Some positions stay strong throughout the draft, but a significant number of positions have such a steep drop.
For me personally, I ended up with ~180 draftable grades but there's a good chunk that are in my late day 3 bucket. That round 5-6 range could be really interesting.
For me personally, I ended up with ~180 draftable grades but there's a good chunk that are in my late day 3 bucket. That round 5-6 range could be really interesting.
still only got grades on 150ish guys right now but certainly feels like there's a significant fall-off after the 4th round
feels like a pretty decent class before that fall-off though - held up, as you say, by certain positions (CB, EDGE, TE and some OL and WR depth on day 2 and early day 3)