Next Up: vs. Detroit

[rmcjacket23]

EDC needs to get off the voidable year crack. Right now we have 23 mil in dead money from the crack unless we resign some of these guys. Gotta understand Lamar is getting 11 mil more and as it stands now we have the 23 mil in crack money and when the cap rises next year we really not gaining cap on nothing.

Just spousing off but the only reason we did all these voidables this year was to do a run this year and then start working thru the drafts to handle Lamar's bigger hits

Thing is though... dead $ is irrelevant. It's not, nor should it be, a factor in decision making.

Teams with better cap management have figured out that you can quite easily put a quality product on the field with tons of dead $. There's no correlation between dead $ and on-field success. Eagles have close to $58M in dead $ this year... doesn't seem to be slowing them down. 49ers nearly $30M. Saints at Bucs are the best teams in their divisions... $32M and $77M in dead money, respectively.

Look back at last year... Eagles, Seahawks, Giants. All playoff teams, all top 6 in dead $. All had over $53M. Nine playoff teams had at least $25M in dead $.

Rams won the SB in '21 with $49.4M in dead $.

The math is like this... if OBJ is a $15M player, and he costs $11M next year (and wouldn't be on the team), you can replace him with another WR that's similar, for the same $15M in cash, but only count $4M against the cap. So you're paying $15M in cash and counting $15M in cap in aggregate.

That's the notion. And the only time that truly would "backfire" is in a year where you're not competitive and looking to dump cap and "reset the roster". Which realistically comes when you're looking to make a QB change, which the Ravens won't be looking to do for many years.

 

[melvin2345]

Come on we all get bad calls, no one ever blames the refs for losses around here

I'm not blaming the refs, just acknowledging the situation.

It was an insanely impressive kick that absolutely sucked the soul from my body and dick punched it in front of me.
It also shouldn't have happened, lol.
Both things can be true.

 

[Willbacker]

I'm not blaming the refs, just acknowledging the situation.

It was an insanely impressive kick that absolutely sucked the soul from my body and dick punched it in front of me.
It also shouldn't have happened, lol.
Both things can be true.

You also know he's full of shit.

 

[Willbacker]

Thing is though... dead $ is irrelevant. It's not, nor should it be, a factor in decision making.

Teams with better cap management have figured out that you can quite easily put a quality product on the field with tons of dead $. There's no correlation between dead $ and on-field success. Eagles have close to $58M in dead $ this year... doesn't seem to be slowing them down. 49ers nearly $30M. Saints at Bucs are the best teams in their divisions... $32M and $77M in dead money, respectively.

Look back at last year... Eagles, Seahawks, Giants. All playoff teams, all top 6 in dead $. All had over $53M. Nine playoff teams had at least $25M in dead $.

Rams won the SB in '21 with $49.4M in dead $.

The math is like this... if OBJ is a $15M player, and he costs $11M next year (and wouldn't be on the team), you can replace him with another WR that's similar, for the same $15M in cash, but only count $4M against the cap. So you're paying $15M in cash and counting $15M in cap in aggregate.

That's the notion. And the only time that truly would "backfire" is in a year where you're not competitive and looking to dump cap and "reset the roster". Which realistically comes when you're looking to make a QB change, which the Ravens won't be looking to do for many years.

Looking at Jalen Hurt's contract is mind blowing with all those void years. Puts the Orioles Chris Davis to shame.

 

[JAAM]

I'm not blaming the refs, just acknowledging the situation.

It was an insanely impressive kick that absolutely sucked the soul from my body and dick punched it in front of me.
It also shouldn't have happened, lol.
Both things can be true.

He was being facetious lol

 

[rmcjacket23]

Looking at Jalen Hurt's contract is mind blowing with all those void years. Puts the Orioles Chris Davis to shame.

yeah except void years aren't cash flow. It's just cap manipulation. OBJ has $11M in void year dead cap next year, and he's getting precisely $0 of it.

Because he got all $15M this year. The Ravens just didn't want to take all $15M in cap hit this year.

 

[cobrajet]

We let Tucker hit 6 Field Goals as a warmup for Detroit, Tucker ready to break the hearts of Lions fans again. Granted it's been in Detroit but this time he does it at The Bank.

Fully expect defense to be the vocal point, low scoring game. As usual Tucker... against the Lions.

Lions 20
Ravens 23

I hope we don’t have to rely on Tucker too much, calling for up to 25mph winds on Sunday.

 

[airconteka]

I'm not blaming the refs, just acknowledging the situation.

It was an insanely impressive kick that absolutely sucked the soul from my body and dick punched it in front of me.
It also shouldn't have happened, lol.
Both things can be true.

Just taking the piss old mate. Have a read of the Colts post game thread

 

[JoeyFlex5]

I hope we don’t have to rely on Tucker too much, calling for up to 25mph winds on Sunday.

Oh fuck

 

[UPennChem]

Anyone watch Monken's press conference? The insinuation was pretty strongly that we are executing poorly in the second half.

 

[Tank]

I hope we don’t have to rely on Tucker too much, calling for up to 25mph winds on Sunday.

Passes will need to be darts, no flopping ducks.

 

[Tank]

Anyone watch Monken's press conference? The insinuation was pretty strongly that we are executing poorly in the second half.

That Todd, he has such a keen sense for the obvious. lol

 

[UPennChem]

That Todd, he has such a keen sense for the obvious. lol

My point is he really didn't mince words. Also actively spoke in the nicest way possible that he's disagreeing with some of the things Lamar has told the media.

He didn't say things like the defenses have made adjustments. In fact he said he hasn't really seen huge adjustments. He didn't say we have failed to check into the right protections or plays. He really said things like we need to execute better and then was forced to say stuff and it starts with me. But he really was saying politely stop fumbling. Stop throwing stupid interceptions. Stop dropping balls.

 

[Tank]

My point is he really didn't mince words. Also actively spoke in the nicest way possible that he's disagreeing with some of the things Lamar has told the media.

He didn't say things like the defenses have made adjustments. In fact he said he hasn't really seen huge adjustments. He didn't say we have failed to check into the right protections or plays. He really said things like we need to execute better and then was forced to say stuff and it starts with me. But he really was saying politely stop fumbling. Stop throwing stupid interceptions. Stop dropping balls.

Thanks, I'll look for the video of the presser.

Even though my reply was a bit facetious, I truly meant those glaring issues have been more than obvious and are the reasons the offense is floundering in crunch time. Many want to rationalize and blame coaching, play calling, etc..

 

[Deebo813]

My point is he really didn't mince words. Also actively spoke in the nicest way possible that he's disagreeing with some of the things Lamar has told the media.

He didn't say things like the defenses have made adjustments. In fact he said he hasn't really seen huge adjustments. He didn't say we have failed to check into the right protections or plays. He really said things like we need to execute better and then was forced to say stuff and it starts with me. But he really was saying politely stop fumbling. Stop throwing stupid interceptions. Stop dropping balls.

Yep def need to stop fumbling and throwing bad ints. I was thinking to myself that maybe monken is very good at game planning but struggles 2nd half once adjustments are made but if he said he doesnt see many adjustments, its possibly that we just have to execute better

 

[UPennChem]

Thanks, I'll look for the video of the presser.

Even though my reply was a bit facetious, I truly meant those glaring issues have been more than obvious and are the reasons the offense is floundering in crunch time. Many want to rationalize and blame coaching, play calling, etc..

Outside of him not calling 1 to 2 more deep shots per game, and being a little too happy to run Gus on 1st and second down in the second half, I have no problem with the guy whatsoever.

Our players have been super undisciplined on offense all year.

 

[UPennChem]

Yep def need to stop fumbling and throwing bad ints. I was thinking to myself that maybe monken is very good at game planning but struggles 2nd half once adjustments are made but if he said he doesnt see many adjustments, its possibly that we just have to execute better

Agreed. I'm not claiming by any means whatsoever to be some football genius. That couldn't be farther from the truth. However, just the other day I posted I don't even think defenses are making crazy adjustments. It's just that we've gone a little more run heavy and we do stupid shit like take sacks, throw interceptions, fumble drop balls etc

 

[rmcjacket23]

Agreed. I'm not claiming by any means whatsoever to be some football genius. That couldn't be farther from the truth. However, just the other day I posted I don't even think defenses are making crazy adjustments. It's just that we've gone a little more run heavy and we do stupid shit like take sacks, throw interceptions, fumble drop balls etc

I'd have to go back and find the clip, but I remember on the ManningCast I think last year Peyton was mocking people who think that teams make significant "halftime adjustments". He basically said in his entire career they never really made any "adjustments", because there wasn't time to do so. Halftime in the NFL is like 12 minutes total. That gives players a total of like 8-10 minutes to actually "rest". He said they're basically just catching a breather, sometimes swapping out uniforms if needed, etc. There was basically no like lengthy conversation of "hey X, Y, Z schemes aren't working, lets do A, B, C instead".

I think coaches have the ability to make some of those adjustments, but its often much more focused on adjusting to gameflow, situations, etc. Like if you're down 14 at halftime, probably have to modify the strategy of "lets run the ball 30 times a half".

Long way of saying I think players would tell you "halftime adjustments" are overrated and occur a lot less than the public thinks.

 

[UPennChem]

I'd have to go back and find the clip, but I remember on the ManningCast I think last year Peyton was mocking people who think that teams make significant "halftime adjustments". He basically said in his entire career they never really made any "adjustments", because there wasn't time to do so. Halftime in the NFL is like 12 minutes total. That gives players a total of like 8-10 minutes to actually "rest". He said they're basically just catching a breather, sometimes swapping out uniforms if needed, etc. There was basically no like lengthy conversation of "hey X, Y, Z schemes aren't working, lets do A, B, C instead".

I think coaches have the ability to make some of those adjustments, but its often much more focused on adjusting to gameflow, situations, etc. Like if you're down 14 at halftime, probably have to modify the strategy of "lets run the ball 30 times a half".

Long way of saying I think players would tell you "halftime adjustments" are overrated and occur a lot less than the public thinks.

I think halftime adjustments are simply happening in the minds of the coordinators and gets reflected potentially in the play calling. The players know their job when the plays are called. But yeah there's simply no way to have a lengthy discussion and or conversation with 53 guys in 12 mins.

 

[RavensMania]

I hope we don’t have to rely on Tucker too much, calling for up to 25mph winds on Sunday.

that should be advantage us