Dom McRaven
Hall of Famer
Too early to tell at this point.
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I watched a guy come back from a big deficit in all 3 playoff games.
Was a great run by both qbs. I still think its debatable though. He came back from 10+ deficits in all three games.. can replace williams with ingram and kc would have still won.. cant replace mahommes with anyone. same goes for flacco that season
Was a great run for sure but i think patricks was great also.
Everyone here likes queen over murry. Even before we drafted him that was the case lol.
BloodRaven
MVP
Murray is a prototypical big, fast, physical ILB who plays with blinders on. There are so many of these guys who are physically impressive on tape but their mental processing and decision making flaws become exacerbated as pros.
There will have to be a non-virtual training camp of some sort - there’s a possibility it’s delayed or shortened but it’s not tenable for a team to go straight from online workouts into the season
Inqui
Pro Bowler
Page 46 is when Murray was drafted. I feel like the collective reaction speaks for itself lol.
https://purpleflock.com/threads/1901/page-46
oh shit. Did you really do that?
oh god no
Tank
Hall of Famer
I watched a guy for most of the game(SB) bouncing passes off the ground to wide open receivers, throwing into double coverage, throwing bad picks, etc.. Granted he pulled it together and looked great for a couple of drives at the end of the game, but if it weren’t for Williams stellar play(should have been MVP) and the stout 4th quarter KC defense they definitely lose.
And this has nothing to do with comparing the run to Flacco, so don’t even go there. lol
i legit turned the game off - i was sure the game was over
Sami84
Ravens Ring of Honor
Dom McRaven
Hall of Famer
Random question, what's your avi about?
rmcjacket23
Ravens Ring of Honor
I mean OK, but why were they in a position to need to come back?
Part of the reason your team needs to come back every game is because your offense isn't doing what it needs to do.
Part of the reason you fall behind 24-0 at home to the Texans (a bad defense) is that you punt on your first three possessions. I personally don't view a win over the Titans as a "comeback", because being down 10 points mid-way through the 2nd quarter isn't exactly a daunting deficit to overcome, regardless of opponent.
Part of the reason you're down 10 points in the 4th quarter in a SB is because you scored 3 points in your previous 4 possessions, including two interceptions, and you score 10 points in the first 3.5 quarters of the game. Granted, against a stud defense.
That's kind of the whole point. The only argument for Mahomes is "well he came back". Yes he did. But he was also a big reason why they had to come back, especially in the SB. He was playing from behind late because his performance, among others, wasn't good enough to keep them from playing from behind. So he shares both credit and blame for that situation.
If it were a case where Mahomes is out there hanging 25-30 points on the 49ers, and the Chiefs defense can't stop anybody, then I'd put very little blame on him. But that's not what happened against SF at all. I thought KC's defense may have been the best unit on the field that entire day.
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
Exactly. I had this same talk with deebo on super bowl night when I said Damien Williams was robbed of mvp. Mahomes didn’t play a spectacular game, he was a game manager who had 1 spectacular rushing play and one downfield spot throw where tyreek hill fielded it like a punt, otherwise he was pretty pedestrian. That comeback should’ve never even been on the table because the chiefs offense needs to be scoring more frequently, and mahomes frankly was the prime suspect in that SB, he was sailing screen passes and turfing balls left and right. Damien Williams ripped off one strong run after another, a lot of it under his own talents and efforts with great open field missed tackles being forced, especially on the sideline and in the redzone.
mahomes was SPECTACULAR in the entire playoff run, but he fizzled out big time in the super bowl. Joe Flacco was even more spectacular in the same duration and didn’t fizzle out until the second half and that was after the power outage and the defense and special teams also fizzling out completely, along with a very untimely ray rice fumble. Flacco was consistently lighting teams up, mahomes had a strong quarter after looking bad in every game.
chiefs are weird really because they frequently do this, not just in the playoff run. They rip off one jaw dropping quarter of football and are pretty average the rest of the game. If they don’t improve in that regard it’s gonna nite them in the Ass this year when they face us, because we’re gonna ready for 4 quarters of methodical football this time and keep them off the field
the other thing is that people always point to that long tyreek hill reception as the most important change of momentum - and i agree
but that wasnt mahomes making a good play or a good throw - tyreek hill was as wide open as you can be on a deep ball and mahomes just had to get it there
well done them for getting it done - but that play is way more on tyreek than mahomes
and i hate giving tyreek hill credit for anything
Yes i agree.
O ok. Yall got it. Impossible to defeat fandomness( i dnt even think thats a word)
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Imo chris jones shouldve won mvp. I look at it like this, williams is replaceable and patrick is not..not taking away anything from what he did but people acting like he made something out of nothing. Mark ingram wouldve gotten the same numbers if played with kc in that sb.