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[29BmoreBird22]

Lets say you were Maclin, would the idea of playing in this offense sound particularly enticing?

Yes because I'll easily get 100+ targets

 

[29BmoreBird22]

The Browns come with a lot of ifs though. Then again, if they do suck this year they'll be in position to draft Darnold and then yes that makes a load of sense. But why pick the Browns over say the Patriots who also have the money to go get him if he wanted a super bowl RIGHT AWAY?

But we're not exacatly in a bad position either. I think if Ozzie actually decides to build a goddamn offensive line, and he comes here, we're one of the better teams in the league given the botox injection we just gave to the defense.

Side note: Doesn't this seem to be the story with the browns every few years? They draft a few promising defensive players, put together a solid line, somehow find good skill position players as weapons, and yet they still fuck it up because that city seems to be cursed? It's gotten to the point where I actually feel sorry for them. They were supposed to be a promising team years ago too, yet they (for some reason) continue to shoot themselves in the foot. I actually think that the Browns are cursed somewhat.

Again. I actually don't disagree, but I think the Patriots should be his first choice over Cleveland.

I'm taking Rosen or Allen over Darnold right now, but that's a discussion for another time.

I wholeheartedly agree that if the Ravens get an OL, they'll be a strong contender. And next year's OL class is lightyears ahead of this years as it stands, so maybe Ozzie was looking ahead a year instead of being shortsighted like most fans. Just a thought.

I think the Browns just have zero quarterback consistency. You cannot win without a quarterback that can at least manage the game. The Browns don't even have that. They've always had liabilities. But apparently Kizer is proving to be a quick study and a pretty decent talent. Just OTA's, but maybe he can at least be a manager. We'll see. I'd hate if it actually worked out.

I don't know why he would go to NE. He'd be sitting behind, at the very least, Gronk, Cooks, and Edelman for targets. Add Allen to that list in the red zone. He'd also face pretty decent competition for targets from White/Lewis and Hogan. Truthfully, NE has the most stacked skill position set in the NFL. I always laugh when people say Brady has nobodies or that he makes the receivers around him better. He's absolutely loaded. It's a wonder he hasn't hit over 5,000 yards or 40 touchdowns more than once in his career.

 

[BloodRaven]

You have a FAR better QB then you had in KC with a skillset more tailored to fit you, solid options at the positions to make sure tgey cant just double you all day. Ya I would want in this offense if im a number 1 WR and Maclin is.

Yes because I'll easily get 100+ targets

If I'm his agent the Saints, Panthers or Cowboys are his best fit, he gets better production and more money than he does here.

 

[JoeyFlex5]

Lets say you were Maclin, would the idea of playing in this offense sound particularly enticing?

yes. he would nearly have a career year here. AFC north secondaries arent exactly great, its a system that plays to his skill set and the other targets on this offense not so much, yet they bring enormous big play threat so he will be the outlet and get the ball easy and often.

 

[JoeyFlex5]

I'm taking Rosen or Allen over Darnold right now, but that's a discussion for another time.

I wholeheartedly agree that if the Ravens get an OL, they'll be a strong contender. And next year's OL class is lightyears ahead of this years as it stands, so maybe Ozzie was looking ahead a year instead of being shortsighted like most fans. Just a thought.

I think the Browns just have zero quarterback consistency. You cannot win without a quarterback that can at least manage the game. The Browns don't even have that. They've always had liabilities. But apparently Kizer is proving to be a quick study and a pretty decent talent. Just OTA's, but maybe he can at least be a manager. We'll see. I'd hate if it actually worked out.

I don't know why he would go to NE. He'd be sitting behind, at the very least, Gronk, Cooks, and Edelman for targets. Add Allen to that list in the red zone. He'd also face pretty decent competition for targets from White/Lewis and Hogan. Truthfully, NE has the most stacked skill position set in the NFL. I always laugh when people say Brady has nobodies or that he makes the receivers around him better. He's absolutely loaded. It's a wonder he hasn't hit over 5,000 yards or 40 touchdowns more than once in his career.

agreed about next year. i think ozzie had us on a 2 year plan. last year he got us a cornerstone LT, this year he absolutely stacked our defense for years to come because the FA and draft class fit the bill, and next year the offensive draft class fits the bill.

i think well field the best D in the league with a struggling offense but at least we find an identity as a big play offense, and next year we build the OL and establish a run game for a well rounded team

 

[Militant X 1]

As soon as the news broke, I was hoping that Ozzie jumped on the phone with his agent. He could be a good fit for us.

 

[Sami84]

so basically this is another season down the drain because
1- no cap space to fill roster properly
2- Crap previous drafts since SB and no offensive talent to speak of

great..no worries, we'll just wait another year. Do us all a favor then, when we're 4-10 , don't try and win the next 2 games.

 

[Oldfaithful]

agreed about next year. i think ozzie had us on a 2 year plan. last year he got us a cornerstone LT, this year he absolutely stacked our defense for years to come because the FA and draft class fit the bill, and next year the offensive draft class fits the bill.

i think well field the best D in the league with a struggling offense but at least we find an identity as a big play offense, and next year we build the OL and establish a run game for a well rounded team

I know I made a thread about the two year plan, and how it's brilliant in the long run.

Yeah. The short run this fucking idiotic beyond belief.

The first thing ANY GM should do after they get their QB is build up an offensive line. This does wonders for your offense as it allows you to have a good running game, and get adaquate protection for the QB. What has Ozzie done since Flacco has gotten here? Stop gap centers, revolving door at the tackle positions, and a revolving door at LG. Ozzie is good at drafting olinemen, especially left guards, but just straight up doesn't find long term solutions for Flacco. I mean, it took us 9 years of Flacco's career to find a young buck LT that looks like he has a boatload of upside.

And yes, I understand that the two previous drafts were talent heavy on the defensive side of the ball. I actually really liked the talent haul from the previous two drafts. But at least go out in FA and TRY to find a long term solution.

I hate agreeing with Sami84, but instead of spending all that money on a player who plays 60% of the snaps, we should have spent it on a goddamn offensive linemen.

Now, our franchise QB is at risk of an injury again because we have no good options at the center position, James Hurst of all fucking people is still on the team somehow, we misuse talent like Alex Lewis at LG and are likely to sit a guy who could be a day 1 starter in Siragusa. Flacco is going to have to develop Peyton Manning like ball release skills in order to not get murdered.

"But Lost, we have Stanley and Yanda". Yes, a franchise LT who has the potential to become a many time all pro, and a future hall of fame guard. That makes us better than like 11 teams on it's own. But we still have to play with 2 players on the line that are likely to be misused(in the case of Alex Lewis), and Jack-shit(in the case of Hurst).

If Flacco gets seriously hurt(god forbid), unless it's on a scramble where he doesn't slide, Ozzie needs to be fired immediately. The blame would fall 100% on his shoulders. He should have repurposed the money from the Brandon Williams deal to go get a CAPABLE offensive lineman.

But, in the mean time this is what we are going to have to put up with. I see us going anywhere from 10-6 to 6-10. The defense is too damn talented.

But make no mistake. If it comes down to it, and Ozzie has to pick between another offensive lineman next season, and an Alabama defensive player.. Well. We both know where he's going.


But back on topic. Yeah. I think Maclin would have some incentive to come here. We get Maclin back, extend Wallace, and Perriman grows, and we somehow get an offensive line next year barring Ozzie doesn't neglect Flacco AGAIN. Then we're talking about us being a super bowl contender. I think the WRs right now as is aren't the issue with the Offense, and Maclin makes the corps more than respectable. I think we have a TON of talent that just needs in game experience.


I'd instantly cut Watson, Arrington, and get James Hurst out of town to to acquire Maclin.

 

[Davesta]

Anyone worried that maclin is injury prone?

 

[mc_red23]

Anyone worried that maclin is injury prone?

I'm more worried that we don't have the cap space to sign him yet our team isn't that great at the moment.

 

[Sami84]

Like i said on BR.com

I'd have got dontari poe for cheap and resigned wagner and drafted forrest lamp.

 

[redrum52]

I know I made a thread about the two year plan, and how it's brilliant in the long run.

Yeah. The short run this fucking idiotic beyond belief.

The first thing ANY GM should do after they get their QB is build up an offensive line. This does wonders for your offense as it allows you to have a good running game, and get adaquate protection for the QB. What has Ozzie done since Flacco has gotten here? Stop gap centers, revolving door at the tackle positions, and a revolving door at LG. Ozzie is good at drafting olinemen, especially left guards, but just straight up doesn't find long term solutions for Flacco. I mean, it took us 9 years of Flacco's career to find a young buck LT that looks like he has a boatload of upside.

And yes, I understand that the two previous drafts were talent heavy on the defensive side of the ball. I actually really liked the talent haul from the previous two drafts. But at least go out in FA and TRY to find a long term solution.

I hate agreeing with Sami84, but instead of spending all that money on a player who plays 60% of the snaps, we should have spent it on a goddamn offensive linemen.

Now, our franchise QB is at risk of an injury again because we have no good options at the center position, James Hurst of all fucking people is still on the team somehow, we misuse talent like Alex Lewis at LG and are likely to sit a guy who could be a day 1 starter in Siragusa. Flacco is going to have to develop Peyton Manning like ball release skills in order to not get murdered.

"But Lost, we have Stanley and Yanda". Yes, a franchise LT who has the potential to become a many time all pro, and a future hall of fame guard. That makes us better than like 11 teams on it's own. But we still have to play with 2 players on the line that are likely to be misused(in the case of Alex Lewis), and Jack-shit(in the case of Hurst).

If Flacco gets seriously hurt(god forbid), unless it's on a scramble where he doesn't slide, Ozzie needs to be fired immediately. The blame would fall 100% on his shoulders. He should have repurposed the money from the Brandon Williams deal to go get a CAPABLE offensive lineman.

But, in the mean time this is what we are going to have to put up with. I see us going anywhere from 10-6 to 6-10. The defense is too damn talented.

But make no mistake. If it comes down to it, and Ozzie has to pick between another offensive lineman next season, and an Alabama defensive player.. Well. We both know where he's going.


But back on topic. Yeah. I think Maclin would have some incentive to come here. We get Maclin back, extend Wallace, and Perriman grows, and we somehow get an offensive line next year barring Ozzie doesn't neglect Flacco AGAIN. Then we're talking about us being a super bowl contender. I think the WRs right now as is aren't the issue with the Offense, and Maclin makes the corps more than respectable. I think we have a TON of talent that just needs in game experience.


I'd instantly cut Watson, Arrington, and get James Hurst out of town to to acquire Maclin.

I said let both Wagner and B Will walk. The move I really hated was not doing everything possible to try and keep KO. Like you, I've said for years, build the OL at the cost of other positions. You do that and in most cases the offense will take care of itself if you have a qb.

Anyone worried that maclin is injury prone?

This too. I really don't get the Maclin hype.

 

[JO_75]

Lets say you were Maclin, would the idea of playing in this offense sound particularly enticing?

Marty was his OC in Philly during his first 4 years in the league, so he played in this offense already and knows the playbook. Just a matter of him and Flacco getting in rhythm before week one.

 

[Deebo813]

I know I made a thread about the two year plan, and how it's brilliant in the long run.

Yeah. The short run this fucking idiotic beyond belief.

The first thing ANY GM should do after they get their QB is build up an offensive line. This does wonders for your offense as it allows you to have a good running game, and get adaquate protection for the QB. What has Ozzie done since Flacco has gotten here? Stop gap centers, revolving door at the tackle positions, and a revolving door at LG. Ozzie is good at drafting olinemen, especially left guards, but just straight up doesn't find long term solutions for Flacco. I mean, it took us 9 years of Flacco's career to find a young buck LT that looks like he has a boatload of upside.

And yes, I understand that the two previous drafts were talent heavy on the defensive side of the ball. I actually really liked the talent haul from the previous two drafts. But at least go out in FA and TRY to find a long term solution.

I hate agreeing with Sami84, but instead of spending all that money on a player who plays 60% of the snaps, we should have spent it on a goddamn offensive linemen.

Now, our franchise QB is at risk of an injury again because we have no good options at the center position, James Hurst of all fucking people is still on the team somehow, we misuse talent like Alex Lewis at LG and are likely to sit a guy who could be a day 1 starter in Siragusa. Flacco is going to have to develop Peyton Manning like ball release skills in order to not get murdered.

"But Lost, we have Stanley and Yanda". Yes, a franchise LT who has the potential to become a many time all pro, and a future hall of fame guard. That makes us better than like 11 teams on it's own. But we still have to play with 2 players on the line that are likely to be misused(in the case of Alex Lewis), and Jack-shit(in the case of Hurst).

If Flacco gets seriously hurt(god forbid), unless it's on a scramble where he doesn't slide, Ozzie needs to be fired immediately. The blame would fall 100% on his shoulders. He should have repurposed the money from the Brandon Williams deal to go get a CAPABLE offensive lineman.

But, in the mean time this is what we are going to have to put up with. I see us going anywhere from 10-6 to 6-10. The defense is too damn talented.

But make no mistake. If it comes down to it, and Ozzie has to pick between another offensive lineman next season, and an Alabama defensive player.. Well. We both know where he's going.


But back on topic. Yeah. I think Maclin would have some incentive to come here. We get Maclin back, extend Wallace, and Perriman grows, and we somehow get an offensive line next year barring Ozzie doesn't neglect Flacco AGAIN. Then we're talking about us being a super bowl contender. I think the WRs right now as is aren't the issue with the Offense, and Maclin makes the corps more than respectable. I think we have a TON of talent that just needs in game experience.


I'd instantly cut Watson, Arrington, and get James Hurst out of town to to acquire Maclin.

This is the nfl bro, its teams with worse olines than us and their qb is still
Healthy. Cant blame injuries on anyone besides the player

 

[RavensMania]

I said let both Wagner and B Will walk. The move I really hated was not doing everything possible to try and keep KO. Like you, I've said for years, build the OL at the cost of other positions. You do that and in most cases the offense will take care of itself if you have a qb.



This too. I really don't get the Maclin hype.

They did make a quite competitive offer to pay KO, but they weren't going to give him LT money and I'm glad they didn't.

The BWill total contract will look cheap in a couple years. He's extremely necessary when keeping players off our linebackers and in the run game. No, he doesn't rush the passer well, but that isn't what we ask him to do. He's better thank hankerson and Poe. I wouldn't have been happy if they replaced them with Poe, which is who Sami was calling for,

 

[Grim]

This is the nfl bro, its teams with worse olines than us and their qb is still
Healthy. Cant blame injuries on anyone besides the player

This doesn't make any sense to me. How is it a player's fault if he's hurt? Certainly there are situations where this is true but I don't see how it is true where you can make such a generalization.

 

[JAAM]

Buffalo's in preliminary talks with Maclin. Wouldn't doubt it if he's a Bill by tomorrow or Tuesday. Campanaro/Moore/some no name undrafted WR at that 3 spot is going to be a disaster if we don't add anyone of relevance.

 

[JO_75]

Buffalo's in preliminary talks with Maclin. Wouldn't doubt it if he's a Bill by tomorrow or Tuesday. Campanaro/Moore/some no name undrafted WR at that 3 spot is going to be a disaster if we don't add anyone of relevance.

Apparently McCoy was recruiting him to Buffalo much like Weddle helped bring guys in for us. So yeah go play for a team with no shot over playing for your old OC, no need to learn the offense, makes sense.

 

[redrum52]

They did make a quite competitive offer to pay KO, but they weren't going to give him LT money and I'm glad they didn't.

The BWill total contract will look cheap in a couple years. He's extremely necessary when keeping players off our linebackers and in the run game. No, he doesn't rush the passer well, but that isn't what we ask him to do. He's better thank hankerson and Poe. I wouldn't have been happy if they replaced them with Poe, which is who Sami was calling for,

The structure of the deal makes it where it is easy to release him in 2-3 years. KO was the type of OL who deserved that type of money. You would have seen a noticeable difference in the run game if we were able to keep him and still drafted Stanley. I wouldn't even have matched the deal for Wagner, but I would've paid KO and I know they claim we made a "fair" or "good" deal, but reports say he didn't like the offer we made, I think.

 

[RavensMania]

The structure of the deal makes it where it is easy to release him in 2-3 years. KO was the type of OL who deserved that type of money. You would have seen a noticeable difference in the run game if we were able to keep him and still drafted Stanley. I wouldn't even have matched the deal for Wagner, but I would've paid KO and I know they claim we made a "fair" or "good" deal, but reports say he didn't like the offer we made, I think.

I'm still not going to pay a guard left tackle money. Especially one with back issues.