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[JO_75]

 

[JoeyFlex5]

TRADE!

this is a "get him tf out my face" trade

 

[JO_75]

So in case anyone is wondering, this very same thing happened just before Wentz was traded to Indianapolis and just before JJ Watt signed with the Cardinals. It seems Russell Wilson to the Bears is about to be announced....

 

[JO_75]

Welp.... NFC is screwed again. It's really a one year extension through 2022 with the rest being void years to spread the cap. This opened nearly $20M in cap space for the Bucs.

 

[JO_75]

ESPN feels threatened by McAfee? I can't see why they would ban ESPN personalities from being on his show.

 

[rossihunter2]

ESPN feels threatened by McAfee? I can't see why they would ban ESPN personalities from being on his show.

seems to be a lot of this going around relating to ESPN at the moment and not just limited to Pat McAfee - seen a few media types talking about it being 1 person at ESPN being an asshole but no one's being more specific (for obvious reasons - probably someone with a fair bit of power)

 

[JO_75]

It's official.... Drew Brees announces his retirement 15 years to the day he signed with the Saints as a Free Agent. This also means Drew Brees will be joining the Sunday Night Football crew as an analyst.

 

[JO_75]

@Ice Bowl Congrats on keeping one of your own.

 

[rossihunter2]

lol what??
i know it's got voidable years - but i'd really like to see how much he's making in year 1.............

 

[rossihunter2]

and also that's to have him not even be the starter... jameis apparently still gonna be the number 1 in 2021 lol

 

[JO_75]

and also that's to have him not even be the starter... jameis apparently still gonna be the number 1 in 2021 lol

Are teams now just realizing they could have voidable years in contracts or this a new thing? It seems as if this would be the solution to the QB mega contracts, 6-10 year deals that are really 4-5 years with the rest being voidable years just in time for when the QB would want new money anyway.

 

[Dom McRaven]

Nope. Taysom "better than Lamar" Hill will guide the Saints to at least 14 wins by having a MVP-caliber season.

 

[cdp]

Are teams now just realizing they could have voidable years in contracts or this a new thing? It seems as if this would be the solution to the QB mega contracts, 6-10 year deals that are really 4-5 years with the rest being voidable years just in time for when the QB would want new money anyway.

Voidable contracts are not a new thing, a couple of teams have used such mechanisms before. Suggs signed such a contract for example with the cards.
Voidable years help to spread pro-rated bonuses. But they add dead cap the year the contract voids.
So it's basically like borrowing from future cap space.
Example 4 year contract with 2 void years.
Signing bonus:20m. Which means the signing bonus is spread over 4 years instead of two. The only difference is that in year 3 you add 10m dead cap for a player who is no longer on your team (or you're still paying for that old contract)

 

[rossihunter2]

Are teams now just realizing they could have voidable years in contracts or this a new thing? It seems as if this would be the solution to the QB mega contracts, 6-10 year deals that are really 4-5 years with the rest being voidable years just in time for when the QB would want new money anyway.

the point of the void years is to push the signing bonus beyond the years of the actual contract... but bonuses only pro-rate over 5 years so until the chiefs restructured Mahomes's deal his bonus only stretched 5 years into his 10 year deal (now with the restructure there is some bonus money a year further on in the future)

so that stops the ability for teams to stretch those deals into the future - they only really work with short term deals that you want to spread the bonus for - otherwise teams would put infinite void years onto every contract and sign everyone to a fully guaranteed signing bonus only contract and never run out of cap space ever

but obviously that moves instant dead cap into the future that you can do nothing with

for what it's worth im pretty sure the saints are only doing weird crazy deals because it's about the only way they can fit under the cap this year...

 

[JO_75]

Voidable contracts are not a new thing, a couple of teams have used such mechanisms before. Suggs signed such a contract for example with the cards.
Voidable years help to spread pro-rated bonuses. But they add dead cap the year the contract voids.
So it's basically like borrowing from future cap space.
Example 4 year contract with 2 void years.
Signing bonus:20m. Which means the signing bonus is spread over 4 years instead of two. The only difference is that in year 3 you add 10m dead cap for a player who is no longer on your team (or you're still paying for that old contract)

the point of the void years is to push the signing bonus beyond the years of the actual contract... but bonuses only pro-rate over 5 years so until the chiefs restructured Mahomes's deal his bonus only stretched 5 years into his 10 year deal (now with the restructure there is some bonus money a year further on in the future)

so that stops the ability for teams to stretch those deals into the future - they only really work with short term deals that you want to spread the bonus for - otherwise teams would put infinite void years onto every contract and sign everyone to a fully guaranteed signing bonus only contract and never run out of cap space ever

but obviously that moves instant dead cap into the future that you can do nothing with

for what it's worth im pretty sure the saints are only doing weird crazy deals because it's about the only way they can fit under the cap this year...

Thanks guys. The only reason I asked if it was new because the way these are being restructured for cap room and what not, I'm just sitting here thinking why didn't we do that with Flacco's contract and announce it as a 7-8 year deal that's voidable after 3 years. Looking at the cap hit of his contract he signed, we had to restructure after three years anyway so instead the deal has 4-5 years being voidable years. Then we could have kept Anquan around instead of trading him.

 

[rossihunter2]

Thanks guys. The only reason I asked if it was new because the way these are being restructured for cap room and what not, I'm just sitting here thinking why didn't we do that with Flacco's contract and announce it as a 7-8 year deal that's voidable after 3 years. Looking at the cap hit of his contract he signed, we had to restructure after three years anyway so instead the deal has 4-5 years being voidable years. Then we could have kept Anquan around instead of trading him.

the structure of that deal was pretty inflexible and awful and it forced us to give him that new deal in 2016 - and that new deal in 2016 still features in the top 10 signing bonuses in NFL history... despite multiple better QBs getting paid since because that first deal gave us no leverage at all...

but yeah you're limited in terms of void years by the fact that bonuses can only pro-rate for 5 years

the first flacco deal kind of functioned as if it hard void years in it from the moment he signed it because the numbers in year 4 and 5 were so big that we always knew we'd have to re-do it so we basically functionally did have void years (or their equivalent) in that deal because despite it clearly only lasting 3 years, it still had the bonus pro-rate over 5 years...

but that was only 1 of many reasons why we had so many cap issues post joe's deal... we had all the money in ray rice, dennis pitta, eugene monroe who all fell threw in their own ways and it just added so much dead money

 

[RavensMania]

Finally something may be done that allows coaches a fair shot at Head Coaching Jobs. Way to go Bills!

Yep, the top teams in many instances have kept their coaches over the year because the teams that wanted to replace coaches wanted to get a head start. This will put everyone on a level playing field.

 

[RavensMania]

Big Ben when he sees Lamar, Baker and Burrow this season:

must be his new getup as he hides from those cops on Boardwalk Empire. Boy do I miss that show.

 

[RavensMania]

Voidable contracts are not a new thing, a couple of teams have used such mechanisms before. Suggs signed such a contract for example with the cards.
Voidable years help to spread pro-rated bonuses. But they add dead cap the year the contract voids.
So it's basically like borrowing from future cap space.
Example 4 year contract with 2 void years.
Signing bonus:20m. Which means the signing bonus is spread over 4 years instead of two. The only difference is that in year 3 you add 10m dead cap for a player who is no longer on your team (or you're still paying for that old contract)

No, Bruce Allen was using them prior to becoming the Skins GM in 2010.

 

[JO_75]

Speaking of the WFT, Ryan Fitzpatrick will be playing for his 9th NFL team in 2021 as he has signed a 1 year deal in Washington.