Willbacker
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I hope not but Hamilton plays the same combination safety/LB role.
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I hope not but Hamilton plays the same combination safety/LB role.
marklar
Pro Bowler
I hate that, he is too good at that cap hit to trade away. Unless we got an offer we could not refuse
Charm City
Pro Bowler
Filmstudy suggested that we trade Clark for Toney and Bradberry. Although Toney is worth more than Clark, including Bradberry's contract would help even out the trade values. Doing this would leave us with pretty much just EDGE and maybe ILB as our only needs, which would be incredible given where we were at the beginning of the offseason.
JAAM
Hall of Famer
You want me to take care of this one? I have a good feeling
and how are we gonna take on bradberry's contract?
there would have to be an extension
JO_75
Hall of Famer
So... just like Murray we are going to make a big deal out of a player clearing his social media? I really hope he stays, three safety look would be nice.
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
Not sure why the giants would do that
especially since they lose 8m in cap space trading Toney.
drjohnnyfever
Pro Bowler
Yes, please.
I'll help you... (SIIE)he's gotta feel good about us being way better than we were last year. If he ever wanted to win a SB, we'd be a great place to bet on! And he's gotta know he'd be a big part of getting us there and winning!
drjohnnyfever
Pro Bowler
There was also an article on Yahoo or ESPN or BR about this. Maybe, Monday or Tuesday. It was just one of those thinking out loud articles. But basically it was boiled down to, "...why would the Ravens do that unless the Giants were willing to pay a real good portion of Bradberry's contract to do it."
Idk, I like the 3 Safety thing that could develop. But if Wink overvalues Clark then who knows. I wouldn't go outta my way for that deal. There are still going to be guys becoming available when the draftees are being signed. Just like every year.
Dom McRaven
Hall of Famer
As you wish..
Charm City
Pro Bowler
OTC says we’re at 7 mil with the top 51 rule. Trading chuck and cutting James, Koch, and Powers would open up 8 mil more. Extending Bradberry would give us a few mil more in space which should work from a cap perspective
Charm City
Pro Bowler
There’s speculation that the Toney situation is worse than what appears to those outside the Giants, and Filmstudy suggested that Clark is worth more to the Giants than other teams since he knows Winks system and can be the QB of the defense. I agree that this trade seems unlikely but some variation on it with Powers or picks could make sense.
rmcjacket23
Ravens Ring of Honor
There's a lot of problems I have with this logic...
1. I really don't see why Clark is valuable to the Giants. I'm quite certain the only reason is because of Wink. That's not good enough. If I look at the Giants depth chart, Xavier McKinney, who they like and I actually think is pretty good, is essentially their box safety. He's an early 2nd round pick from two years ago. I'd probably rather have him over Clark at this point, and I don't know why they'd be giving up on that guy after just two years, especially when he's been at least average.
So unless you plan on putting Clark in more of a true free safety look, which I don't think Wink is that stupid, I really don't see why he's valuable to the Giants.
2. I think there's this fall assumption that the Giants defense is going to look similar to the Ravens in terms of scheme and style. I think its going to shock people how different they'll be. There are MASSIVE personnel differences between types of players the Ravens have and types of players the Giants have.
3. I don't see us trading for Bradberry. Everybody and their mother knows the Giants are almost certainly cutting him soon. There's no reason for anybody to give up any asset AND absorb a contract the way it currently is. You'd have to immediately extend him, which I'm not convinced a ton of teams are dying to do, and it takes some of the flexibility away.
BoredMarine13
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Hoping we can keep Chuck. Quality player, low cap hit, depth for an injured secondary, and a team leader. Not sure the return or Cap savings are worth it.
I think Peters will be extended at some point as well
McKinney played box safety 148 snaps, slot 15 and free safety 807 snaps.
rmcjacket23
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Right but I also don't know if that's similar to like a Ravens distribution, where neither guy really plays free or box, but one is "designated" that role.
Based on what I recall from scouting him out of college, I would never put him in a true "free safety", center field, role.
