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He gone. I wonder where to and what we Gon get back..
I hope not but Hamilton plays the same combination safety/LB role.
He gone. I wonder where to and what we Gon get back..
He gone. I wonder where to and what we Gon get back..
Filmstudy suggested that we trade Clark for Toney and Bradberry. Although Toney is worth more than Clark, including Bradberry's contract would help even out the trade values. Doing this would leave us with pretty much just EDGE and maybe ILB as our only needs, which would be incredible given where we were at the beginning of the offseason.I hate that, he is too good at that cap hit to trade away. Unless we got an offer we could not refuse
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Filmstudy suggested that we trade Clark for Toney and Bradberry. Although Toney is worth more than Clark, including Bradberry's contract would help even out the trade values. Doing this would leave us with pretty much just EDGE and maybe ILB as our only needs, which would be incredible given where we were at the beginning of the offseason.
there would have to be an extensionand how are we gonna take on bradberry's contract?
He gone. I wonder where to and what we Gon get back..
Not sure why the giants would do thatFilmstudy suggested that we trade Clark for Toney and Bradberry. Although Toney is worth more than Clark, including Bradberry's contract would help even out the trade values. Doing this would leave us with pretty much just EDGE and maybe ILB as our only needs, which would be incredible given where we were at the beginning of the offseason.
especially since they lose 8m in cap space trading Toney.Not sure why the giants would do that
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There was also an article on Yahoo or ESPN or BR about this. Maybe, Monday or Tuesday. It was just one of those thinking out loud articles. But basically it was boiled down to, "...why would the Ravens do that unless the Giants were willing to pay a real good portion of Bradberry's contract to do it."Filmstudy suggested that we trade Clark for Toney and Bradberry. Although Toney is worth more than Clark, including Bradberry's contract would help even out the trade values. Doing this would leave us with pretty much just EDGE and maybe ILB as our only needs, which would be incredible given where we were at the beginning of the offseason.
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OTC says we’re at 7 mil with the top 51 rule. Trading chuck and cutting James, Koch, and Powers would open up 8 mil more. Extending Bradberry would give us a few mil more in space which should work from a cap perspectiveand how are we gonna take on bradberry's contract?
There’s speculation that the Toney situation is worse than what appears to those outside the Giants, and Filmstudy suggested that Clark is worth more to the Giants than other teams since he knows Winks system and can be the QB of the defense. I agree that this trade seems unlikely but some variation on it with Powers or picks could make sense.Not sure why the giants would do that
There's a lot of problems I have with this logic...There’s speculation that the Toney situation is worse than what appears to those outside the Giants, and Filmstudy suggested that Clark is worth more to the Giants than other teams since he knows Winks system and can be the QB of the defense. I agree that this trade seems unlikely but some variation on it with Powers or picks could make sense.
I think Peters will be extended at some point as wellOTC says we’re at 7 mil with the top 51 rule. Trading chuck and cutting James, Koch, and Powers would open up 8 mil more. Extending Bradberry would give us a few mil more in space which should work from a cap perspective
McKinney played box safety 148 snaps, slot 15 and free safety 807 snaps.There's a lot of problems I have with this logic...
1. I really don't see why Clark is valuable to the Giants. I'm quite certain the only reason is because of Wink. That's not good enough. If I look at the Giants depth chart, Xavier McKinney, who they like and I actually think is pretty good, is essentially their box safety. He's an early 2nd round pick from two years ago. I'd probably rather have him over Clark at this point, and I don't know why they'd be giving up on that guy after just two years, especially when he's been at least average.
So unless you plan on putting Clark in more of a true free safety look, which I don't think Wink is that stupid, I really don't see why he's valuable to the Giants.
2. I think there's this fall assumption that the Giants defense is going to look similar to the Ravens in terms of scheme and style. I think its going to shock people how different they'll be. There are MASSIVE personnel differences between types of players the Ravens have and types of players the Giants have.
3. I don't see us trading for Bradberry. Everybody and their mother knows the Giants are almost certainly cutting him soon. There's no reason for anybody to give up any asset AND absorb a contract the way it currently is. You'd have to immediately extend him, which I'm not convinced a ton of teams are dying to do, and it takes some of the flexibility away.
Right but I also don't know if that's similar to like a Ravens distribution, where neither guy really plays free or box, but one is "designated" that role.McKinney played box safety 148 snaps, slot 15 and free safety 807 snaps.