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2020 OL Draft Thread

Edgar

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if we trade quite a way down from 28 there's a decent chance ruiz could still be there and we also might be able to get one of those 2nd round edge rushers too as well as picking up an extra day 2 pick

if there's a way we could somehow end up with 3 2nd round picks or 2 2nd rounders and a high 3 (as well as our original 3) then EDC has done great

I think Ruiz is still there after we trade back - depending on how far we trade back - some teams will have cushenberry as C1, some teams will have biadasz as C1 and obviously some teams will have ruiz at C1 - i think he's potentially going to be in my top 28 players (not sure yet) but id be fine with him at 28 given his positional value but i do think its realistic to trade down and still get him
I hope other teams see Ruiz behind those guys but I find it hard to believe they will. I dont see those two as even close. I think Ruiz is my favorite player in the draft.
 

JoeyFlex5

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I hope other teams see Ruiz behind those guys but I find it hard to believe they will. I dont see those two as even close. I think Ruiz is my favorite player in the draft.
I’d be shocked if he wasn’t consensus Center 1. He’s head and shoulders above cushenberry and biadasz. Those 2 have question marks, Ruiz has none, after watching your breakdown and one game of my own I’m already convinced he’s the best and most complete C prospect I’ve ever watched.

honestly the only thing keeping him from being my #1 prospect for us at 28 is that idk if OL in round 1 is the right way to go. I just can’t help but feel like we need a sexier pick there, another WR who can separate and take it to the house, an edge guy, an ILB, a DT, all feel like real possibilities to find a solid player, but I’d say as far as safe picks go, at 28 Ruiz and I think Raegor are the only sure things
 

rossihunter2

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I’d be shocked if he wasn’t consensus Center 1. He’s head and shoulders above cushenberry and biadasz. Those 2 have question marks, Ruiz has none, after watching your breakdown and one game of my own I’m already convinced he’s the best and most complete C prospect I’ve ever watched.

honestly the only thing keeping him from being my #1 prospect for us at 28 is that idk if OL in round 1 is the right way to go. I just can’t help but feel like we need a sexier pick there, another WR who can separate and take it to the house, an edge guy, an ILB, a DT, all feel like real possibilities to find a solid player, but I’d say as far as safe picks go, at 28 Ruiz and I think Raegor are the only sure things

i wouldnt feel good about calling reagor a sure thing given his drops but he's definitely someone who could be in play there - would take ruiz over reagor i think at 28
 

Edgar

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Im pretty all in on us taking Ruiz at 28 but I'm hesitant to even do a mock with him as our #1. It would shock me if we took a center. That would be a throw back Ozzie BPA selection and I'm not sure we operate that way anymore.
 

rossihunter2

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Im pretty all in on us taking Ruiz at 28 but I'm hesitant to even do a mock with him as our #1. It would shock me if we took a center. That would be a throw back Ozzie BPA selection and I'm not sure we operate that way anymore.

i think we still operate at BPA (obviously need comes into that) but what we're seeing the last 2 years since EDC took over is that he's manoeuvring us around the draft so that a position of need player is likely to be BPA where we pick and then lets the draft come to us on day 3 with those extra picks

still not sure how my board will fall because i still havent done all the DBs and the corner group especially looks like a jumble of players on day 1 and 2 which is delaying the process a little - once i get through those and a few more linebackers ill be able to stack the board which will give me a better idea of whether its realistic for me to see the ravens take ruiz at 28

the thing about ruiz though is when ive heard him discussed by guys like brugler they've talked about him having positional flexibility and the ability to play guard which alleviates concerns with regards to picking him - add to that the fact that Skura might not be able to play again as a raven before he hits free agency and yanda's impending retirement (be it this offseason or the one after) id say Ruiz would definitely be a need pick

but my guess is its unlikely we even pick at 28
 

Davesta

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I hope other teams see Ruiz behind those guys but I find it hard to believe they will. I dont see those two as even close. I think Ruiz is my favorite player in the draft.

Interesting, I just got done reading PFF’s iOL ranking and they have Ruiz at 9th. Maybe he’s a trade back candidate or we move up in the 2nd if he falls. I do think we need to grab a iOL early and get ready for yanda’s retirement.

Side note: it’s crazy, he’s only 20 years old.

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2020-nfl-draft-position-rankings-interior-offensive-linemen
 

rossihunter2

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Interesting, I just got done reading PFF’s iOL ranking and they have Ruiz at 9th. Maybe he’s a trade back candidate or we move up in the 2nd if he falls. I do think we need to grab a iOL early and get ready for yanda’s retirement.

Side note: it’s crazy, he’s only 20 years old.

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2020-nfl-draft-position-rankings-interior-offensive-linemen

the way they've separated the different players seems fairly arbitrary based on taste but being in the top 10 of PFF is a good indicator that you consistently grade well by their metrics

with ruiz his profile is pretty crazy - as you say he's 20 years old, 6'3" and 320lbs but moves so well and smoothly that you hardly notice how big and powerful he is and he does it all while having his head on a swivel
 

JoeyFlex5

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allblackraven

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Anybody watched Oregon OL tape(s)? I caught couple of their games past season, they were absolutely dominant. I remember being impressed by Lemieux.
 

Charm City

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Anybody watched Oregon OL tape(s)? I caught couple of their games past season, they were absolutely dominant. I remember being impressed by Lemieux.
Lemieux lacks awareness at times but he pulls pretty well and has decent strength. I'd be happy with him as one of our 4ths
 
As fun as Muti is to watch what he can do against lower competition wouldnt carry over to the pros, he also has the worst medicals in the class. Maybe he is the best IOL but he can only prove that if he makes the field.

Im still hopeful we can get Willis or Wirfs, its unlikely but theyre my two favorites for our interior.
 

rossihunter2

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As fun as Muti is to watch what he can do against lower competition wouldnt carry over to the pros, he also has the worst medicals in the class. Maybe he is the best IOL but he can only prove that if he makes the field.

Im still hopeful we can get Willis or Wirfs, its unlikely but theyre my two favorites for our interior.

of those 2 wirfs has a much higher chance to drop - seems like wills is clearly going in the top 15 and possibly top 5 - it definitely helps that josh jones and mekhi becton are prototypical tackle prospects and as such are seemingly higher on boards than wirfs who projects better inside (according to many)

that being said id be surprised if any of those guys make it to our pick
 

rossihunter2

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This is incredible, can be our new lead blocker.



no way is he a 1st round pick - cool clip lol

ive got this guy as a late 2/3 - he's got quite ploddy feet and and not great flexibility which means he gets beat by quick edge guys especially if they're lined up in a wide 9 type spot - great developmental prospect at RT but not someone who id touch anywhere near the 1st round
 

JoeyFlex5

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I really want Damien Lewis. He’s a seriously powerful man. He leans at times and he can be a little goofy in space but holy shit that dude is like marshawn lynch as a blocker, block through a mf’s face. I imagine he’s probably a third rounder, and I’d like for him to be ours there
 
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