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Dom McRaven
Hall of Famer
Oh no. It's the team he went to. Fuck the Pats.
JO_75
Hall of Famer
The Manning Cast curse has fully taken over the NFL after yesterday given that even Tom Brady was not immune to this curse.
Week 1- Russell Wilson & Travis Kelce: Wilson appeared on the show then the Titans beat the Seahawks 33-30, Wilson then got injured causing him to miss games. Kelce was on the show talking about Darren Waller & Mark Andrews, Chiefs went on to lose to us the very next week and the Chiefs have been trending downward ever since.
Week 2- Rob Gronkowski: Brady's favorite weapon appeared on the show in Week two before the Bucs loss to the Rams in Week 3. This was the only loss for Tampa up until yesterday, after Brady made his Manning Cast appearance last week.
Week 3- Matthew Stafford: A day after beating the Bucs, the Rams QB made an appearance on the show. The Rams then lost to Arizona 37-20 the very next week..
Week 7- Tom Brady: Brady was on the show last week, Brady would then throw two interceptions including a Pick 6 in the loss to New Orleans.
Week 8- Bills QB Josh Allen: This one is going to be tested quite well as the Bills face the Jaguars next week and the Jaguars also have a player named Josh Allen. So perhaps the curse accidently hits the wrong Josh Allen.
Week 1- Russell Wilson & Travis Kelce: Wilson appeared on the show then the Titans beat the Seahawks 33-30, Wilson then got injured causing him to miss games. Kelce was on the show talking about Darren Waller & Mark Andrews, Chiefs went on to lose to us the very next week and the Chiefs have been trending downward ever since.
Week 2- Rob Gronkowski: Brady's favorite weapon appeared on the show in Week two before the Bucs loss to the Rams in Week 3. This was the only loss for Tampa up until yesterday, after Brady made his Manning Cast appearance last week.
Week 3- Matthew Stafford: A day after beating the Bucs, the Rams QB made an appearance on the show. The Rams then lost to Arizona 37-20 the very next week..
Week 7- Tom Brady: Brady was on the show last week, Brady would then throw two interceptions including a Pick 6 in the loss to New Orleans.
Week 8- Bills QB Josh Allen: This one is going to be tested quite well as the Bills face the Jaguars next week and the Jaguars also have a player named Josh Allen. So perhaps the curse accidently hits the wrong Josh Allen.
Nurps
Ravens Ring of Honor
I saw this today.....
- A third-round compensatory pick for the Brad Holmes hiring.
- Their fifth-round pick.
- Their seventh-round pick.
- They have another seventh-rounder from the Dolphins from the Aqib Talib trade.
- Per OverTheCap, they’re getting a fourth-rounder for losing John Johnson to free agency.
- They have four other sixth-round compensatory picks as well.
now who's going to blame Lamar or Harbaugh on this one!
Corvus Purpura
Practice Squad
I heard Lamar and Harbaugh went to a shooting range in Cleveland, so...
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
Same. I ain’t subbing to shit but I’d like to know lol
JAAM
Hall of Famer
I think Golladay is one of them. Other outlets are saying we should trade for ARob. This is the first year EVER I strongly disagree with acquiring a stud WR because of Hollywood and Bateman. It would make no sense at all.
I would, however, trade for Mack or RoJo
Some names I saw posted elsewhere... Cody Ford, Andre Dillard, Josh Andrews, and Marlon Mack
i completely forgot about the 3rd round comp for brad holmes and missed out on those player comp picks
so a 3, 4, 5, 3x6, 2x7
that's not quite as bad as it initially looked but still pretty awful lol
ill preface this by saying that none of this is based on any actual talk about these players - just speculation on some guys who might make sense...
Josh Andrews
Andre Dillard
Cody Ford
Kyle Fuller
Hayden Hurst
Ronald Jones
Phillip Lindsay
Marlon Mack
the only one of those guys who vaguely moves the needle is cody ford and no way the bills are dealing him even if he isnt playing full-time... andre dillard also but has severely under-performed since coming into the league
i dont see any of the others as particularly realistic (because why would we bother?)
and harbs said today he's not expecting any reinforcements
cdp
Ravens Ring of Honor
idk maybe Judon isn't asked to drop into coverage as much as was here. Maybe their scheme are more straight forward
Inside the Ravens: 8 players who make sense as trade additions, upcoming roster activity and news, notes, opinions
By Jeff Zrebiec Nov 1, 2021
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Ravens general manager Eric DeCosta wanted a pass rusher before the 2019 trade deadline. He ended up with Marcus Peters.
The story has been told before, but it’s worth revisiting ahead of Tuesday’s 4 p.m. ET trade deadline. DeCosta was in negotiations with his Los Angeles Rams counterpart, Les Snead, about another player when the talks hit a snag. That’s when Snead asked DeCosta if he’d have any interest in Peters.
For DeCosta, the next best thing to getting an edge rusher who can sack the quarterback was acquiring a cornerback who can make the quarterback hold the ball a little longer. The addition of Peters helped transform the Ravens’ defense. More than a pass rusher, the 2019 Ravens needed a defensive playmaker and Peters proved to be that guy.
Two years later, the Ravens are sitting at 5-2, but they again could use a jolt. Less than $2 million of salary-cap space, however, will require them to be picky and perhaps creative. They’re not going to be able to land a running back, offensive tackle, inside linebacker and a cornerback. They’d probably be lucky to fill one of those holes before the deadline.
As the Peters’ situation revealed, it’s not necessarily what a team ideally wants at the trade deadline. It’s what’s available and what it can afford.
With that in mind, let’s look at eight players who have been involved in trade speculation and would make some sense for the Ravens on the surface.
Josh Andrews, G, Falcons: This wouldn’t exactly be a blockbuster, but Andrews, who has been displaced by a rookie, would bring depth and experience to a Ravens’ offensive line in flux. He can play guard and center and he’s on an accommodating one year, $990,000 deal.
Andre Dillard, OT/G, Eagles: It’s been well documented that the Eagles are willing to move the 2019 first-round pick who has never really established himself as a starter in Philly. The Ravens need offensive line help and the added benefit is Dillard is signed through 2022, so he’d be a nice insurance policy for Ronnie Stanley in 2022, too. The issue is it has been speculated that he’d cost a Day 2 draft pick, which may be too rich for the Ravens.
Cody Ford, G/T, Bills: That Ford could be available is more based on the fact that he’s no longer a full-time starter rather than any concrete evidence that the Bills are listening to offers for him. However, the Ravens love Oklahoma offensive linemen and they tried to trade into the second round to get into position to draft Ford in 2019. It wouldn’t be surprising if DeCosta at least made a call.
Kyle Fuller, CB, Broncos: It would be a pretty cool story if the Baltimore native returned home to augment a Ravens secondary that could use the help. He’s essentially been benched in Denver, so he’s available. However, he’s also in the middle of a one-year, $9.5 million deal. The Broncos would have to absorb a good portion of that to facilitate a deal.
Hayden Hurst, TE, Falcons: A reunion with Hurst is a long shot, primarily because the Ravens have much bigger needs. However, they’ve gotten very little production from the third tight end spot and a two-way player at the position could help their running and passing games. Hurst has a lot of friends in the building, too.
Ronald Jones II, RB, Buccaneers: The Buccaneers insist they’re not interested in trading Jones, but he’d check a lot of boxes for the Ravens if they were. He can get downhill, factor in the passing game and his contract wouldn’t be too prohibitive.
Phillip Lindsay, RB, Texans: Houston has already traded Mark Ingram and if Lindsay’s limited workload is any indication, it would have no problem moving on from him, too. Lindsay hasn’t shown much this year, but he ran with some juice when he was with the Broncos and hypothetically would bring a speed element to the Ravens backfield.
Marlon Mack, RB, Colts: Mack, who is third on the Colts’ running back depth chart, wants to have a bigger role and has asked to be traded. He’s in the middle of a one-year, $1 million contract, so he’s affordable, probably wouldn’t cost a lot in a trade and he showed some juice against the Ravens a few weeks ago when he rushed for 47 yards on five carries.
Roster moves coming
The Ravens’ back-end roster churn stopped during the bye week with the team’s lone transaction being the signing of veteran offensive tackle Cedric Ogbuehi. The Ravens, though, have some roster decisions looming.
Through the first seven weeks, the Ravens have kept an open spot or two on their 53-man roster, presumably to save salary-cap space. They may not have that luxury for much longer.
Currently, they are carrying 52 players and they’d create another spot if they deem right tackle Patrick Mekari’s ankle injury significant enough to warrant a trip to injured reserve.
But help could be on the way. There’s the potential for a trade deadline acquisition. Tight end Nick Boyle is in the middle of his 21-day practice window and he’ll have to be activated to the active roster by Nov. 9. If the Ravens believe he’s ready to return from a major knee injury, they may not even wait that long.
Defensive lineman Derek Wolfe’s 21-day window started when he returned to practice last Tuesday. Barring a setback, it shouldn’t be too long before he’s ready for game action. Rookie guard Ben Cleveland and cornerbacks Chris Westry and Kevon Seymour are all working their way back from injuries. When they return to practice, they won’t be that far away from game action.
Mekari’s injury leaves the Ravens with only six healthy offensive linemen, so they’ll either have to add an offensive lineman or two to the 53-man this week or use their two standard practice elevations Sunday on offensive linemen.
After essentially playing short-handed for the first seven weeks, the Ravens will soon be in a position where they probably won’t be able to afford certain roster luxuries. Carrying four running backs, which makes sense with Latavius Murray sidelined with an ankle injury, will become really difficult. Keeping seven receivers when Sammy Watkins is ready to return from an ankle injury, seems dubious. Five inside linebackers all being active on game days will be tough to maintain as well.
Having two games in five days only adds to the difficulty of the decisions. Either way, the guys on the back end of the Ravens roster couldn’t have had a very relaxing bye week, knowing the moves the team is going to have to make soon.
10 random thoughts and opinions
1. Perhaps, the Ravens are waiting on Murray to return before they make any subtractions at running back. Otherwise, I can’t imagine them being comfortable going with the Devonta Freeman, Le’Veon Bell and Ty’Son Williams trio for much longer. Freeman has made contributions, but the coaching staff seems to lack trust in Williams. Meanwhile, Bell has shown little juice with 18 touches for 33 yards, his patient running style not looking like a fit for the Ravens’ offense. It’s very hard to believe that the Ravens couldn’t find an upgrade for the current group either via trade, on the free-agent market or on another team’s practice squad. And if they can’t, why not give their own practice squad running back, Nate McCrary, a trial run?
2. If the return for former Raven Mark Ingram being dealt from the Houston Texans to the New Orleans Saints is a future seventh-round pick, the Ravens should have no problem acquiring a running back at a very modest price. It’s one position where not a whole lot of teams are looking for help and plenty of teams have an excess.
3. Defensive end Calais Campbell hasn’t said for sure that he’ll retire after the season. The 14-year pro has said he’ll make a decision when the year ends. The sense when the Ravens acquired him and reworked his contract was that 2021 would be his last season, but things can always change. This is what we do know. Campbell is still an impact player. His numbers this season — a half sack, 26 tackles, four tackles for loss, seven quarterback hits and a blocked field goal — don’t really speak to how well he’s played. The Ravens obviously have to respect Campbell and the process, but if I’m the front office and coaching staff, I’m making it very clear to him that he’s wanted back if he still has designs on playing. Brandon Williams and Justin Ellis are free agents. Wolfe has two years left, but he turns 32 early next year and a bad back is the latest of myriad injuries he’s faced. The Ravens will have work to do along the defensive front this offseason and having Campbell still in the picture for at least one more year would be beneficial.
By Jeff Zrebiec Nov 1, 2021
Ravens general manager Eric DeCosta wanted a pass rusher before the 2019 trade deadline. He ended up with Marcus Peters.
The story has been told before, but it’s worth revisiting ahead of Tuesday’s 4 p.m. ET trade deadline. DeCosta was in negotiations with his Los Angeles Rams counterpart, Les Snead, about another player when the talks hit a snag. That’s when Snead asked DeCosta if he’d have any interest in Peters.
For DeCosta, the next best thing to getting an edge rusher who can sack the quarterback was acquiring a cornerback who can make the quarterback hold the ball a little longer. The addition of Peters helped transform the Ravens’ defense. More than a pass rusher, the 2019 Ravens needed a defensive playmaker and Peters proved to be that guy.
Two years later, the Ravens are sitting at 5-2, but they again could use a jolt. Less than $2 million of salary-cap space, however, will require them to be picky and perhaps creative. They’re not going to be able to land a running back, offensive tackle, inside linebacker and a cornerback. They’d probably be lucky to fill one of those holes before the deadline.
As the Peters’ situation revealed, it’s not necessarily what a team ideally wants at the trade deadline. It’s what’s available and what it can afford.
With that in mind, let’s look at eight players who have been involved in trade speculation and would make some sense for the Ravens on the surface.
Josh Andrews, G, Falcons: This wouldn’t exactly be a blockbuster, but Andrews, who has been displaced by a rookie, would bring depth and experience to a Ravens’ offensive line in flux. He can play guard and center and he’s on an accommodating one year, $990,000 deal.
Andre Dillard, OT/G, Eagles: It’s been well documented that the Eagles are willing to move the 2019 first-round pick who has never really established himself as a starter in Philly. The Ravens need offensive line help and the added benefit is Dillard is signed through 2022, so he’d be a nice insurance policy for Ronnie Stanley in 2022, too. The issue is it has been speculated that he’d cost a Day 2 draft pick, which may be too rich for the Ravens.
Cody Ford, G/T, Bills: That Ford could be available is more based on the fact that he’s no longer a full-time starter rather than any concrete evidence that the Bills are listening to offers for him. However, the Ravens love Oklahoma offensive linemen and they tried to trade into the second round to get into position to draft Ford in 2019. It wouldn’t be surprising if DeCosta at least made a call.
Kyle Fuller, CB, Broncos: It would be a pretty cool story if the Baltimore native returned home to augment a Ravens secondary that could use the help. He’s essentially been benched in Denver, so he’s available. However, he’s also in the middle of a one-year, $9.5 million deal. The Broncos would have to absorb a good portion of that to facilitate a deal.
Hayden Hurst, TE, Falcons: A reunion with Hurst is a long shot, primarily because the Ravens have much bigger needs. However, they’ve gotten very little production from the third tight end spot and a two-way player at the position could help their running and passing games. Hurst has a lot of friends in the building, too.
Ronald Jones II, RB, Buccaneers: The Buccaneers insist they’re not interested in trading Jones, but he’d check a lot of boxes for the Ravens if they were. He can get downhill, factor in the passing game and his contract wouldn’t be too prohibitive.
Phillip Lindsay, RB, Texans: Houston has already traded Mark Ingram and if Lindsay’s limited workload is any indication, it would have no problem moving on from him, too. Lindsay hasn’t shown much this year, but he ran with some juice when he was with the Broncos and hypothetically would bring a speed element to the Ravens backfield.
Marlon Mack, RB, Colts: Mack, who is third on the Colts’ running back depth chart, wants to have a bigger role and has asked to be traded. He’s in the middle of a one-year, $1 million contract, so he’s affordable, probably wouldn’t cost a lot in a trade and he showed some juice against the Ravens a few weeks ago when he rushed for 47 yards on five carries.
Roster moves coming
The Ravens’ back-end roster churn stopped during the bye week with the team’s lone transaction being the signing of veteran offensive tackle Cedric Ogbuehi. The Ravens, though, have some roster decisions looming.
Through the first seven weeks, the Ravens have kept an open spot or two on their 53-man roster, presumably to save salary-cap space. They may not have that luxury for much longer.
Currently, they are carrying 52 players and they’d create another spot if they deem right tackle Patrick Mekari’s ankle injury significant enough to warrant a trip to injured reserve.
But help could be on the way. There’s the potential for a trade deadline acquisition. Tight end Nick Boyle is in the middle of his 21-day practice window and he’ll have to be activated to the active roster by Nov. 9. If the Ravens believe he’s ready to return from a major knee injury, they may not even wait that long.
Defensive lineman Derek Wolfe’s 21-day window started when he returned to practice last Tuesday. Barring a setback, it shouldn’t be too long before he’s ready for game action. Rookie guard Ben Cleveland and cornerbacks Chris Westry and Kevon Seymour are all working their way back from injuries. When they return to practice, they won’t be that far away from game action.
Mekari’s injury leaves the Ravens with only six healthy offensive linemen, so they’ll either have to add an offensive lineman or two to the 53-man this week or use their two standard practice elevations Sunday on offensive linemen.
After essentially playing short-handed for the first seven weeks, the Ravens will soon be in a position where they probably won’t be able to afford certain roster luxuries. Carrying four running backs, which makes sense with Latavius Murray sidelined with an ankle injury, will become really difficult. Keeping seven receivers when Sammy Watkins is ready to return from an ankle injury, seems dubious. Five inside linebackers all being active on game days will be tough to maintain as well.
Having two games in five days only adds to the difficulty of the decisions. Either way, the guys on the back end of the Ravens roster couldn’t have had a very relaxing bye week, knowing the moves the team is going to have to make soon.
10 random thoughts and opinions
1. Perhaps, the Ravens are waiting on Murray to return before they make any subtractions at running back. Otherwise, I can’t imagine them being comfortable going with the Devonta Freeman, Le’Veon Bell and Ty’Son Williams trio for much longer. Freeman has made contributions, but the coaching staff seems to lack trust in Williams. Meanwhile, Bell has shown little juice with 18 touches for 33 yards, his patient running style not looking like a fit for the Ravens’ offense. It’s very hard to believe that the Ravens couldn’t find an upgrade for the current group either via trade, on the free-agent market or on another team’s practice squad. And if they can’t, why not give their own practice squad running back, Nate McCrary, a trial run?
2. If the return for former Raven Mark Ingram being dealt from the Houston Texans to the New Orleans Saints is a future seventh-round pick, the Ravens should have no problem acquiring a running back at a very modest price. It’s one position where not a whole lot of teams are looking for help and plenty of teams have an excess.
3. Defensive end Calais Campbell hasn’t said for sure that he’ll retire after the season. The 14-year pro has said he’ll make a decision when the year ends. The sense when the Ravens acquired him and reworked his contract was that 2021 would be his last season, but things can always change. This is what we do know. Campbell is still an impact player. His numbers this season — a half sack, 26 tackles, four tackles for loss, seven quarterback hits and a blocked field goal — don’t really speak to how well he’s played. The Ravens obviously have to respect Campbell and the process, but if I’m the front office and coaching staff, I’m making it very clear to him that he’s wanted back if he still has designs on playing. Brandon Williams and Justin Ellis are free agents. Wolfe has two years left, but he turns 32 early next year and a bad back is the latest of myriad injuries he’s faced. The Ravens will have work to do along the defensive front this offseason and having Campbell still in the picture for at least one more year would be beneficial.
redrum52
Hall of Famer
True random thought. They say when you win a SB teams get up to play you each week. I think you could make a case that the same thing happens with winless teams the further you get into a season. Nobody wants to be the team that takes that first L. That 07 Dolphins loss still stings.
Nurps
Ravens Ring of Honor
I was there. Was terrible!
BoredMarine13
Ravens Ring of Honor
Anybody else watching MNF with Peyton and Eli? These guys are awesome, so much football knowledge between the two of them
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I dnt think we need a wr tbh.. lb, ol or S would be my guess