ill take ed reed over the best pass rusher that ever existed.. why? because no matter who you put out on that field, someone like reed, will be impactful. You can put the best wrs and qbs out on field and he will still do him.. same cant be said for pass rushers, they get taken out the game and schemed around often. Cant take someone like ed reed out the game. Brady and BB couldnt do it, peyton couldnt do it
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rmcjacket23
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OK, but like McCourty isn't a big turnover maker either. Like... he forced 6 turnovers total in like 4 years. Marlon Humphrey is doing that in a season.
I have no doubt about coverage skills from a lot of safeties. My point is the days of safeties standing 15-20 yards off the ball and attacking and picking off passes is largely over. Teams will eat you alive if you play that kind of scheme.
You know why McCourty and Jackson are so good? Because they'll come down in the box and cover a TE with no help. Or even slot receivers. Why? Because defenses force you to do so.
Ed Reed can play in any era. But if you're expecting him to trot out in 2020, like he did in his prime, and get like 7,8,9 picks and force 2-3 fumbles, it ain't happening. Offenses will force him to come down and cover people in man coverage. And if he refuses, they'll throw it in front of him all day long.
But we just had a lesser version of ed reed in eric weddle and if he wasnt so slow, he prolly wouldve had 7 ints..do you remember ed reed play? it wasnt just sitting back 10-15 yards at all. The stuff he did should only be possible on video games
I know we all love to talk about hypothetical trade situations but realistically with all the WR hitting FA which ones do you think would be considered "Ravens"?
Obviously a big catch radius guy would help Lamar. I just don't see one that fits the bill here and by bill I mean worth the $$$. Godwin is a true #1 and def getting tagged. Then there's Samuel, who is just a flat-out playmaker. Hard pass on AJ Green and Marvin Jones. Are they sure handed yes, but we need guys that will catch the ball and make guys miss. I like Gallup for Lamar, he plays with swag and backs it up. 1st round tho? Is he better than Brown? Speaking of Brown, these playoffs are huge for him. If he doesn't show out or at least put up a strong effort then smh...I really want him to succeed.
Btw I stand by all my criticism of Harbs until he proves me wrong. Same like when yall bash my guy Judon but love him now. I've been die hard Ravens for over 20 years. Don't play me. I want us to win just as much as everyone here, but we left Super Bowl(s) on the table and its gonna take 1 more for me to get over that.
Obviously a big catch radius guy would help Lamar. I just don't see one that fits the bill here and by bill I mean worth the $$$. Godwin is a true #1 and def getting tagged. Then there's Samuel, who is just a flat-out playmaker. Hard pass on AJ Green and Marvin Jones. Are they sure handed yes, but we need guys that will catch the ball and make guys miss. I like Gallup for Lamar, he plays with swag and backs it up. 1st round tho? Is he better than Brown? Speaking of Brown, these playoffs are huge for him. If he doesn't show out or at least put up a strong effort then smh...I really want him to succeed.
Btw I stand by all my criticism of Harbs until he proves me wrong. Same like when yall bash my guy Judon but love him now. I've been die hard Ravens for over 20 years. Don't play me. I want us to win just as much as everyone here, but we left Super Bowl(s) on the table and its gonna take 1 more for me to get over that.
rmcjacket23
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In the price range that we'll be shopping in AND factoring in who will actually hit the market, its unlikely we sign anybody of significance. A guy like Corey Davis is probably about as much as we'd be willing to pay. AJ Green would be a possibility on a short, cheap deal, or somebody like an Emmanuel Sanders.
JoeyFlex5
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I’m not sure aj green has much of anything left in the tank, he’s looked like a complete shell of himself at very many points this year, I’ve watched a lot of games where the bengals would have not only won but fucking rolled their opponents if aj green was himself from 3 years ago, balls that he would routinely catch are just out of reach for him now and that’s an ugly sign when you have the likes of joe burrow throwing to you and placing/timing the ball reasonably well
AJ Green is a great player but his injury history over the last couple years scares me. He was healthy this year though.
https://theathletic.com/2300975/202...where-seahawks-ravens/?article_source=related
the whole earl thomas situation with the curtain pulled back slightly
the whole earl thomas situation with the curtain pulled back slightly
Aw dam dont tell me that.. i havent watched much bengals games but when it looked hard for me. I thought maybe it was just that game but i guess not
it may be that a change in scenery helps but he's looked completely out of sorts and disinterested for a while now
best case: he's been done with the bengals
worst case: he's done
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cdp
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Just read the Earl Thomas story. I'm not sure if I want us to sign such characters again...
i think what it does mean is that EDC's gonna do hardcore due diligence on any potential marquee free agent signing - we missed on earl because we got blindsided by losing CJ to the jets and rushed into finding someone to pay without having an intimate knowledge of that player personally
it should have been telling that he was still available when we made the offer but it's hard to know that in the moment
i think it's probably also one of the few situations where we had no organisational knowledge of the player we were signing - no one on staff or any of the players had worked with him before
but yeah - i dont foresee us getting involved in free agency early in the future much at all with the way we've been drafting and developing recently which is the biggest way to not have issues like this - but if we do get back involved again i think that will be one of the lessons learned
UPennChem
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Do you mind giving like a 1 sentence summary. I can't access the article. If that's a bother, please just ignore me.
Do you mind giving like a 1 sentence summary. I can't access the article. If that's a bother, please just ignore me.
I'll message it to you
UPennChem
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You are truly amazing my friend.
rmcjacket23
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I highly doubt it. Plus him requesting a trade is like step 1 in a 10 step process that actually leads to him being traded.
Contract will almost certainly prevent it from happening. Especially noting he has a no-trade clause. Meaning he'd have to waive it AND he'd get to choose where he goes.