allblackraven
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I reckon he's the best corner out of college since Patrick Peterson.
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2022 General Draft Thoughts
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the anchor isnt even really a problem to me anyway - it's a small concern and it seems more obvious and worse than it is because you compare it to neal and ekwonu who nobody's going through - if he faces a 290/300lb guy on the edge who goes speed-to-power with leverage then maybe he'll have some issues but how often does that happen on the edge lol - the biggest issue i see with his anchor is that when he gets hit speed-to-power sometimes he struggles to actually set his anchor (rather than his anchor actually being bad)
and while the run blocking is more about projecting, i do think there's elements of his game and his profile that project well... he's really effective rolling his hips on contact and driving his feet through the contact point - i know he's one of the guys (as well as neal and penning too) who are working with duke manyweather and i saw him put out a video on generating torque with your hands and elbows and then another video on creating leverage and driving the feet and running defenders downfield
with the effective coaching these guys get from pro trainers vs college coaching which has different goals, i think it's possible that in the future we see some prospects just skip out on their final year because the coaching they're getting away from their teams is in many cases better preparing them for the NFL
to that point with the injuries, it's a lisfranc and we've just had recent experience with a 1st rounder coming off that same injury and being effective early in his career (and stingley's way further ahead in his recovery than hollywood was at this point in the process... in fact to the extent that stingley is going to be doing drills and testing at his proday while hollywood couldnt even practice fully his first year)
only seen 2 college WRs really get the better of him at any point... van jefferson (and he still only had like 4/60) and devonta smith (who killed every DB in college)
that's a really good thought lol - not sure any of the 3 guys are quite the same level of pro-ready and no-brainer elite prospect that stanley and tunsil were but that 2016 class was uniquely talented at the top - but certainly the skillsets and the pick-your-flavour type feeling is similar
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
There’s a video on YouTube called “Derek stingley being bad at football” and it’s basically the mildest highlight reel of devonta smith ever compiled, and van Jefferson on perfectly played back shoulder throws, and Seth Williams with a blatant push off, and that’s it.
lol how long is it? 2 minutes with multiple replays?
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
Pretty much lol. It’s a shit video and most of the comments are telling why his take is stupid
Michael M.
Pro Bowler
I like him also
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
One thing I still don’t understand is how Sean rhyan isn’t mentioned really ever, here or elsewhere, he’s like the least discussed prospect in this entire class it seems, he’s one of those guys who has a skill set that could be elite at either guard or tackle in any scheme, I almost want to say, and admittedly this is exaggerated as hell, but he’s almost a poor man’s ikem ekwonu. He looks more like a guard than a tackle but he has tackle feet and quickness and plays with the raw power and girth of a guard and has very quick hands as well.
Tyler smith has been discussed here quite a bit and I’m not sure rhyan isn’t a similar but better prospect.
Tyler smith has been discussed here quite a bit and I’m not sure rhyan isn’t a similar but better prospect.
those first 4 picks are insane lol - would love something like this
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
man id really like to land JJ, gardner, stingley, ojabo, or walker, but id LOVE to see us with jordan davis. i get the arguments against him, but i think hes rare, i really think hes one of the true studs in this draft class, and my brain says any of those others are better prospects, but my heart says davis is THAT guy, and i think hed be a huge identity pick for us.
i think he'd be a fun consolation prize if we missed out on most of those other guys - i certainly dont agree with those who dont think he's worth a 1st round pick - but there's definitely some merit to the idea that you'll get more value out of a 1st round pick at those other positions
if those other guys are gone and jordan davis is the pick (even over ojabo i wouldnt mind either tbh) then that's fine by me - draft the sure-thing athletic freak inside and build around him
not sure I'd call Davis a consolation prize, imo.
vs JJ, Walker, gardner or stingley i think he would be - i dont think it's unfair to davis to say he's not one of the top 10 guys
LSURavenFan
Veteran
I don't think the Ravens could go wrong picking Davis. He's an absolute freak and they need to reload at DL. It makes sense
Davesta
Ravens Ring of Honor
with this post-combine updated ranking, I find myself drafting Davis almost all the time (I’m too cheap to pay for a premium account to do trades). So I’m slowly talking myself into him being our pick haha.
if he’s there though, I’m hoping chargers tilt and want to leapfrog the eagles to grab him. After adding Mack, Davis would be the perfect addition to their Dline. Maybe they move up to grab him like they did with Kenneth Murray.
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mccreary's a classic film vs measureables guy who might be available in the 2nd round because his arms are sub-29" and because he only ran 4.50 - 2 very important metrics for corners tbf and maybe he's a nickel in the pros but my god is the film fun (and notably against the best competition it's possible to face in college for 4 years) - he competed and locked down against everyone
booth's a lot of fun on tape - has a weird thing where he seems to lose balance and be caught a bit flat-footed at times but he has all the athleticism, length, physicality and fluidity that you'd want out of a press corner - love how aggressive he is too
i havent got to drake london yet - but i will preface that im not usually a fan of big receivers like that though