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2018 State of the Ravens: Bisciotti Solo Edition (2/2/18)
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Tank
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Oldfaithful
Hall of Famer
No thank you. I've loved Jordy but if there's a 30+ guy we don't need it's him.
Tank
Hall of Famer
Why’s that? He may be a cap casualty and one they could work a reasonable two or three year deal with.
Oldfaithful
Hall of Famer
He will the be oldest of the bunch, a big part of his success was because of his rapport with Rodgers, he has an injury history, and frankly.. Given his rapport with Rodgers I doubt he leaves.
Tank
Hall of Famer
Hmmmm...... OK, he’s 32. He’s only played with the Packers so yeah, his success has been with Rogers. He did have an off year last year. Missed 8 games in 9 years.
Jordy carries a $12.5 mil. cap hit in 2018 and they could save $10 mil. cutting him. Considering Cobb isn’t going anywhere at almost $13 mil. and they just signed Adams to a big deal, it’s possible Jordy is odd man out.
Who do you think are other real possibilities?
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I agree, arod also had a bad year when he was injured a couple yrs ago. I think Jordy Nelson makes Arod better. It works both ways but we have seen Arod without Jordy and it isn’t pretty.
Oldfaithful
Hall of Famer
Cobb. Whom I'd much rather have even though he's more or less exclusively a slot guy.
Nelson is a much better player than Cobb
Tank
Hall of Famer
Maybe, but he’s much younger and it may be more likely they keep him rather than Jordy. And since he’s younger Randall would want a much longer(read more expensive) deal. I like Cobb, but Nelson seems more of a possibility.
The difference is that it’s whoever gets released as opposed to who is the better player
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
I think they are more likely to cut Cobb and extend Nelson, if they have to let one of them go.
Tank
Hall of Famer
I read where he had a bad case of board hands last year. Sounds like it was just last year, but considering the Ravens recent history at WR I’m not sure they make an investment in a guy that may have those issues.
Sledge Hammer
Pro Bowler
Rodgers was great b4 jordy and once he built a rapport with replacements he was great without Nelson. He will be 33 and he is declining. In my opinion it’s time to quit putting quarters in the merry go round of WRs on the wrong side of 30 with diminishing skills. Nelson can’t run like he could 5 yrs ago. He is going into season 11. We need to Find the next Jordy Nelson. Be it draft or free young agent or trade for a young skilled WRs looking for opportunities to be the No.1. Receivers like Richardson Robinson Marqise. Then some sleepers playing behind high profile WRs and vets like Jeff Janis, Brice Butler, Rashad Higgins looking for opportunity as well.
Brice Butler and Jeff Janis could be the steals. Butler knows he is better than Dez and can run routes but only gets used on deep routes. His catch rate on deep routes is crazy good. He knows he could run routes and catch consistently over the middle if he got opportunity. He is very sudden and smooth and eats up cushion with the best of deep threats. He has skills Perriman could only dream of. He actually has speed, suddenness and fluidity to his routes. And Janis could be the next Jordy Nelson. He has made big plays with monstrous games when he gets opportunity which is only when Cobb Nelson and Adams are hurt. A Marqise Lee with Butler or Janis would be really nice signings.
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Once again I'll say this. Have you seen our team without Rodgers. We're as bad as the Cleveland Browns lol.
Tank
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Thinking Landry will be overpaid by a team with mucho cap $. Lee is a possibility, but another guy that has had some drop issues. Robinson is coming off an ACL, is an unknown at this point, and may not be going anywhere anyway. While Steve says they are committed to finding the cap to be FA players, they aren’t going to mortgage the farm.
Butler? lol Don’t need or want that drama queen.
Jeff Janis is intriguing, a great ST player but at this point an unknown at WR. If the Pack doesn’t pursue him and he’s the right price could be a possibility.
As it stands now the WR FA market is pretty thin, maybe there’s a surprise cut or two that ends up being a prize and not a “Maclin”. Hopefully the Ravens reverse the trend and find a couple of gems in the draft. When you are in need of 3 or 4 guys all at once the task seems impossible. We’ll see what happens.
Butler? lol Don’t need or want that drama queen.
Jeff Janis is intriguing, a great ST player but at this point an unknown at WR. If the Pack doesn’t pursue him and he’s the right price could be a possibility.
As it stands now the WR FA market is pretty thin, maybe there’s a surprise cut or two that ends up being a prize and not a “Maclin”. Hopefully the Ravens reverse the trend and find a couple of gems in the draft. When you are in need of 3 or 4 guys all at once the task seems impossible. We’ll see what happens.
I agree, Arod was great before Nelson was drafted in 2008, but I also believe Nelson would do well on other teams. If not now, atleast in his prime. I also believe Butler could be a fit here, but feel he is looking for a team where he can be a starter and if rather have him as a number 3.
Tank
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Rodgers wasn't a starter until his 4th year, same year Nelson was drafted. So, "b4 Jordy"?
Arod is a great QB with or without, but there's no question that Nelson has been one of the main factors, along with a bunch of other "A level" WRs, to his success. He hasn't succeeded playing with unreliable receivers, ever. They have always made sure above all to give him good receivers with good hands.
Tank
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While he had a down year in no way do I think he is done. And while he may not be the #1 we seek a half Nelson is better than anything we have. lol