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The 2022 Offseason Thread

rossihunter2 said:
idk why people are talking about likely as a WR or split out in WR sets - to me it seems way more likely (no pun intended) that he's lined up in-line and kolar's more likely to split out into the slot etc.

likely feels like he's got some hurst-like flexibility qualities - not a great in-line blocker right now (but has tools to get better) but is a great lead-blocker and downfield blocker in space - motion him across the formation for lamar or jk to follow on counters and i think you'll see him make some great plays separate to his usage in the passing game

when people talk about him doing more multiple stuff than just a basic TE, im not really thinking about WR, im thinking about it in terms of more of an h-back with true flexibility to split out also
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He always looked like the H back type to me and I said this long before we drafted him
 
UPennChem said:
RG3 on GetUp just said Rashod will be the new number 1 and he's looking for Proche to step up as the number 2. He didn't mention anyone else.

Just more Proche talk and silence on the other guys
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They acting like BFFs already. Let’s hope our coaching staff give proche reps this year lol
 
Deebo813 said:
Was there any good wrs worth taking in 4th or later rounds that was worth It? I just wanna know how bad the wrs mightve been that lead us to taking back to back tightends
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we won't know until this season or maybe even 2023, but Calvin Austin, the WR the Steelers drafted that we reportedly wanted may have been an interesting pick. He was a receiver in Hollywoods mold.
 
Deebo813 said:
Was there any good wrs worth taking in 4th or later rounds that was worth It? I just wanna know how bad the wrs mightve been that lead us to taking back to back tightends
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we wanted calvin austin in the 4th but the WR class was somewhat picked clean by the end of the 2nd round

there was no one worth taking at 14
and even fewer worth taking at 25
pickens could have made sense at 45 but apparently he was off a ton of boards for character reasons and skyy moore might have made sense also albeit i didnt really love him (but some did as a borderline 1st round type)

after alec pierce and moore got drafted i think the level of talent dropped off massively

basically calvin austin i liked and khalil shakir i liked (shakir went in the 5th) from the 4th onwards but idk about anyone else - was loaded at the top (like some other recent draft classes but unlike those classes it didnt last)
 
rossihunter2 said:
Michael Pierce not there for some reason - will have to see whether that's rehab or whether it's an excused absence or something
im sure harbs will be asked
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We getting finesse by both our DTs. Wolfe and Pierce. GG
 
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rossihunter2 said:
predicting the 53 is pretty easy for the ravens right now but as you build that team it becomes clear that WR and EDGE just need more players (who will actually make the roster) - whether they're starters or not, we just need to add bodies at both those positions

i think it's pretty much a lock at this point that we're keeping 2 QBs, 4 RBs, 1 FB, 4 TEs, 9 OL and 5 WRs on offence - and all of those guys are on the roster right now except that 5th WR - that's 25 on offence and i dont think there's much wiggle room either way...

key battles on offence
- RB4 - which is probably gonna be mike davis vs justice hill and i think ultimately as long as tyler badie continues to impress, that justice hill will have the inside track on special teams and with his athleticism even though mike davis has some experience out of the backfield (he's just not dynamic and makes me think of the cabal of RBs we had last year)
- OL9 - Ja'wuan James vs Trystan Colon vs Ben Powers - i think powers is already basically gone and then it's just a case of backup C (which becomes less important if pat mekari isnt a starter) vs backup T which with Ronnie's injury makes a lot of sense to me - and i think a healthy james is far more valuable than colon
- WR2-5 lol - at least one and maybe 2 of Proche, Duvernay and Wallace are going to be starting and all 3 are going to play significant snaps i imagine... i think it's even more telling just how out on boykin the ravens were that they were fine getting rid of him even knowing they were gonna trade away hollywood lol (thank fuck they did or else i'd be sick to my stomach right now about the prospect of miles boykin maybe factoring on this team in 2022 hahaha) - i think it's still pretty clear we're going to have to add a 5th WR from somewhere but whether that's a veteran who factors in to start or whether it's someone to round out the depth remains to be seen - will fuller is still out there (im guessing because his finger still isnt ready to go... or because he's not interested in signing with anyone until training camp... idk why otherwise)

defence is a little more complicated because of derek wolfe, the lack of depth at both LB and EDGE, the crazy depth at S - best guess is 6 DL, 5 OLB, 4 ILB, 11 DB which makes 26

key battles on defence
- DL6 - to me this is simply derek wolfe vs brent urban with wolfe a massive question-mark... i imagine someone like isaiah mack will be back on the practice squad as the 3rd NT so no need to carry him on the 53
- EDGE - who's starting opposite odafe if bowser isn't ready to go, do we bring in another EDGE (i'm assuming we do whether that be Houston or JPP or someone else), and then how many guys do we carry... ojabo's 100% gonna start on PUP - right now it looks like Oweh, Bowser and Hayes are the locks and Ferguson's gonna make it on a pure numbers game basis - does vince biegel factor at all? i hope not but if hayes can't stay healthy and bowser's not ready to go then maybe he has to - i expect we'll go into the season with 5 with one being someone yet to sign...
- LB3 - malik harrison vs kristian welch straight up and i think they both make the roster
- DB10-12 - i think we probably carry 11 guys but possible we only carry 10 and possible we try and carry 12... best guess is geno stone, tony jefferson and ardarius washington are fighting over 2 spots, but they could be fighting for 1 or 3 spots too... also partly depends on whether chuck's still here in september... if he isnt then geno and TJ probably both instantly become locks

if anyone can do maths lol - you'll probably notice that between offence and defence i've got 1 too many guys based on the projection that we add both a WR and an EDGE before the 53... not sure where we lose a guy to cutdown to the 53... maybe JK and Gus are absolutely ready to go for week 1 and we only have to carry 3 RBs (or one of them has to start on short-term I/R), maybe we only keep 4 WRs although that feels sketchy, maybe we only keep 4 EDGEs which feels even sketchier given the health of that unit, maybe we drop a LB and only carry 3 but again that feels thin, or maybe we only keep 10 DBs but we can never have too many and we've got lots of talent there

stuff will work itself out but right now it's easy to do the 53 until we add the couple of vets we're expecting to add + this doesnt account for any potential surprise UDFAs although i imagine if one of them does great that they may well be knocking harrison off the roster rather than adding a 5th LB (especially with how much dime i expect us to play in 2022)
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Any 53 man roster talk summons me lol

QB: we know the 2

RB: probably keeping 4 to start and as you said, that battle comes down to Hill vs. Davis. Not sure who I'm giving the leg up to at this point as it depends on the health of Dobbins and Edwards. If they're slow to start, I think Davis makes more sense. He could also be a cut and re-sign after week 1 guy.

FB/TE: Gonna be a heavy group this year with all 5 making it.

WR: You have a top 4 and you're probably only keeping 5 as of now. I'd be surprised if it isn't a veteran of some sorts that isn't on the team currently, but the young guys certainly have an opportunity right now.

OL: We'll be keeping 9 again. Assuming Stanley is healthy, we know Linderbaum, Zeitler, and Moses are 3 other starters. LG is open to Phillips, Cleveland, Mekari, and/or Powers. Add in Faalele and James at T, and then Colon at C. 2 of those 11 names on the outside looking in.

DL: Trending toward 6 right now with some younger options (Crawford, Mack) as PS options.

ILB: Another position where the young guys have a big opportunity. You've got the 4 vets (Queen, Bynes, Welch, and Harrison) ahead of the pack right now but there's always room if a guy plays ST well enough.

OLB: Injuries will dictate this one as Bowser is the big question mark here. Oweh is obvious and Hayes and Ferguson are in good spots due to the numbers currently. Like WR, I'd be shocked if a veteran isn't added here at some point. But wouldn't count out Biegel who has inside/outside versatility and is probably a better STer than Ferguson IF Bowser is healthy and a vet is added.

CB/S: Lumping them together here because I think you have an obvious 9 that are making it as of now... big 3 at CB plus the 2 rookies, big 3 at S (assuming Clark stays) plus Stephens and wherever you consider him. That leaves 1-3 spots for some combo of Stone, Jefferson, Washington, and Seymour.

ST: A new big 3 here

With all of those assumptions, that's 53 players if you go with 10 in the secondary and 55 if you go up to 12.
 
Pretty sure 2019 he had a terrible receiving core and still threw 37 TDs and won MVP.... so what's his point?

 
Simba said:
Any 53 man roster talk summons me lol

QB: we know the 2

RB: probably keeping 4 to start and as you said, that battle comes down to Hill vs. Davis. Not sure who I'm giving the leg up to at this point as it depends on the health of Dobbins and Edwards. If they're slow to start, I think Davis makes more sense. He could also be a cut and re-sign after week 1 guy.

FB/TE: Gonna be a heavy group this year with all 5 making it.

WR: You have a top 4 and you're probably only keeping 5 as of now. I'd be surprised if it isn't a veteran of some sorts that isn't on the team currently, but the young guys certainly have an opportunity right now.

OL: We'll be keeping 9 again. Assuming Stanley is healthy, we know Linderbaum, Zeitler, and Moses are 3 other starters. LG is open to Phillips, Cleveland, Mekari, and/or Powers. Add in Faalele and James at T, and then Colon at C. 2 of those 11 names on the outside looking in.

DL: Trending toward 6 right now with some younger options (Crawford, Mack) as PS options.

ILB: Another position where the young guys have a big opportunity. You've got the 4 vets (Queen, Bynes, Welch, and Harrison) ahead of the pack right now but there's always room if a guy plays ST well enough.

OLB: Injuries will dictate this one as Bowser is the big question mark here. Oweh is obvious and Hayes and Ferguson are in good spots due to the numbers currently. Like WR, I'd be shocked if a veteran isn't added here at some point. But wouldn't count out Biegel who has inside/outside versatility and is probably a better STer than Ferguson IF Bowser is healthy and a vet is added.

CB/S: Lumping them together here because I think you have an obvious 9 that are making it as of now... big 3 at CB plus the 2 rookies, big 3 at S (assuming Clark stays) plus Stephens and wherever you consider him. That leaves 1-3 spots for some combo of Stone, Jefferson, Washington, and Seymour.

ST: A new big 3 here

With all of those assumptions, that's 53 players if you go with 10 in the secondary and 55 if you go up to 12.
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as soon as i started typing it out i knew it would be like a foghorn calling you back to the forum lol

i think we see the numbers the exact same way and the back end of the 53 battles are gonna be interesting
biegel is interesting in that he doesnt really move the needle for me at either position but his versatility (and as you say potential special teams) might give him a leg up in the competition on 2 poor units - but he's not much of a pass rush threat and i think EDGE is so thin right now with the injuries and lack of depth that it might be a straight-up edge-setting competition between him and jaylon ferguson for who makes the roster... i wonder if this is where a udfa like jeremiah moon might factor in if he can prove himself on special teams - reports are that he's been the standout udfa so far regardless of position (and the ravens gave him a pretty sizeable bonus... bigger than the bonus we gave to washington last year)

but i digress

assuming we add 2 guys not on the roster who'll make the 53 at EDGE and WR

i think we're looking at...
Justice Hill and Mike Davis fighting for 1 spot
Ja'Wuan James, Trystan Colon and Ben Powers fighting for 1 spot
Jaylon Ferguson, Vince Biegel, Jeremiah Moon, Malik Harrison and all the udfa LBs are fighting for 1 or 2 spots
Geno Stone, Tony Jefferson and Ar'Darius Washington probably fighting for 1 or 2 spots

as the bubble guys fighting for maybe as few as 5 open roster spots

i think we've got 38 locks on the roster and maybe 46 near-locks on the roster... add in those 2 vets we expect to add and you get 5 open spots

feels like we might have to try and take a risk at EDGE/LB and go light there or else risk losing someone we actually like at DB but maybe it's possible we can work something out with Jefferson to get him on the practice squad to start and elevate him for gamedays to begin the year or maybe you do that with a guy like biegel or those udfa LBs and maybe that's how you get away with being light in the front 7 on the 53
 
ravenslord said:
I'm ready for those 3 tight end sets!
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just you wait until we go jumbo with Daniel Faalele as the 6th OL outside Morgan Moses, Nick Boyle outside him, Pat Ricard in at FB, maybe Isaiah Likely in the backfield as an H-back or maybe even Pat Mekari on the OL too, with Gus Edwards lined up behind Lamar

maybe even with us unbalanced so the OL looks like Pat Mekari (subbing in as 6th/7th man), Tyre Phillips, Linderbaum, Zeitler, Moses, Stanley (unbalanced formation), Faalele, Boyle with Tyre pulling right to either kickout or hit the LB in the gap and Ricard lead-blocking through the hole and if Lamar keeps it then you've got Gus lead-blocking as well

try and stop that shit in short yardage lol
 
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